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Re: Cone K6 inks and persistent nozzle clogging

2010-02-03 by abrams371

Mike,



Perhaps you've right, and inverting the cartridges is just something one
has to do with a CIS system because the tubing draws from the bottom of
the bottle where settling can lead to clogging. I don't know what
difference, if any, there might be between the cartridges you use and
the ones that came with my CIS, which are also spongeless.

In the end, my success so far may have resulted from nothing more than
running a head cleaning first thing every morning and then printing
several 13x19 prints each day, often as late as midnight.  I'll know the
answer in a couple of weeks when I go away for a month and my wife just
runs a head cleaning every day without doing any printing.

Richard


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@...>
wrote:
>
> Interesting experience, Richard. You could have done like I did with
the 1280. A new print head costs $100 and is super easy to install.
Voila, clogs gone! However, for $200 you can get a totally new 1400
printer, which is a better printer. You probably made the right choice.
>
> With regard to your comments about the inverting ink bottles in the
CIS system I'm not sure I see any advantage of CIS over cartridges. A
CIS system is still a cartridge based system. Those cartridges are full
of ink and settling issues (if they are indeed issues) are going to
happen in the cartridge of a CIS system just like they will if using
standard cartridges.
>
> Is there some aspect of the CIS system I'm not seeing? I used to have
a CIS system with Cone inks a few years back before it clogged up due to
infrequent use. That's the reason I commented in my original post that I
don't want to go the CIS route. The 5 to 10 prints I will make a month
can't really keep a CIS system going. I'm hoping the same is not true
even of the cartridge only solution.
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "abrams371" richard.abrams@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > My old Epson 1280 finally got totally clogged using a Jon Cone's K6
CIS
> > inkset and I had to get rid of it--admittedly, though, I had left it
> > alone during long periods when I did nothing but turn it on and off
> > daily. So I bought an Epson 1400 and the new K6 CIS inkset for it,
and
> > after a couple of weeks of almost daily printing it clogged
permanently,
> > despite my trying every trick in inkjetmall's book to unclog it.
> > Fortunately, amazon replaced the printer at no cost, and now I think
I
> > have found the answer to avoid clogs.
> >
> > Every morning without fail I invert each of the bottles of ink a
couple
> > of times to keep the pigment in solution (hold your finger over the
> > air-hole when you do this!), then do a head cleaning--one such daily
> > cleaning has worked so far to give a perfect nozzle check. I've been
> > printing daily for 2-3 weeks now--about 75 13x19 prints in all--with
> > nary a clog. This is a particular advantage of the CIS because you
can
> > invert the bottles, something you can't do with cartridges.
> >
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dawsonmpleasanton" <dawsonm@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm going to post in both QTR and Piezography 3000 forums in the
hopes
> > that someone can help me out.
> > >
> > > I recently made a concerted effort to get back into b&w printing
on a
> > desktop inkjet. I decided to go with the Jon Cone K6 inkset for my
Epson
> > 1280 printer.
> > >
> > > I am not using a continuous feed system. I went that route with
b&w
> > printing a few years ago and my printing needs are infrequent enough
> > that it just doesn't make sense (maintenance or cost-wise). Instead
I am
> > using spongeless cartridges from MIS.
> > >
> > > In prepping for this move I bought and installed a brand new print
> > head as the old print head had two nozzles that just would not
unclog
> > after all sorts of cleaning. Nozzle checks with the new print head
were
> > perfect using Epson OEM inks and with Cone flush ink.
> > >
> > > Loading up the new K6 inks also went perfectly. Beautiful prints.
But
> > I was only able to get about 10 prints out before I had missing
nozzle
> > checks. Several cleaning cycles did not fix the problem.
> > >
> > > I thought maybe the cartridges were defective in some way so I
loaded
> > up a new blank set of cartridges. After installation, bingo, first
time
> > delivered perfect nozzle checks. Printed about 5-10 more prints
before
> > same nozzle clogging problems occurred.
> > >
> > > Cleaning would not solve the problem. I put back in the Cone flush
> > cartridges. Beautiful. Perfect nozzle checks. Put back in the K6
inks.
> > No joy. No amount of cleaning gives me a clean nozzle check.
> > >
> > > I'm close to giving up on this system but I know there are many
out
> > there happily printing b&w. So any hints on what to do with my
system
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > I know the 1280 is outdated and I have heard that nozzle clogging
can
> > be an issue with this printer. I thought the pigment in the K6 inks
were
> > supposed to be the finest particles yet from Cone.
> > >
> > > Do I...
> > >
> > > 1. Perservere with my 1280 and Cone inks? Anyone have some hints?
> > > 2. Give up on the K6 inks and move to MIS inks?
> > > 3. Give up on the 1280? The Epson 1400 uses the K6 inks too.
> > > 4. Switch both to the 1400 printer and to MIS inks.
> > > 5. Give up on these 3rd party b&w inks altogether? (I hope not)
> > >
> > > Regards, and thanks in advance.
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>




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