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Print Preview/Soft Proofing

2014-05-27 by paul.ozzello@...

Hi all,


How do I go about soft proofing an image in Photoshop that will be printed to QTR with an Epson 9890 ?


Paul

Print Preview/Soft Proofing

2014-05-27 by paul.ozzello@...

Hi all,


How do I go about soft proofing an image in Photoshop that will be printed to QTR with an Epson 9890 ?


Paul

Re: Print Preview/Soft Proofing

2014-05-28 by Lutsky, Berel

I believe that there is a step-by-step for this on the northlight website, but you can get very close to a BW soft proof by editing in Gray gamma 2.2, on a calibrated monitor, this will give a good indication of the tonality, shadow detail etc. it will not show you any effects of toning -



Berel Lutsky
Associate Professor of Art
UW Manitowoc
920-683-4735

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Print Preview/Soft Proofing

2014-05-28 by Paul Roark

QTR prints with a very linear (straight-line) Lab-L. Gray Gamma 2.2 compresses the deep shadow tones. See the graph at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Lab-L-QTR-v-GrayGamma-2-2.jpg

Many soft proof (In PS: View>Proof Setup>Custom [insert ICC in "Device to Simulate"]) their images on the monitor by using an ICC. The QTR download has some canned ICCs (Lab L simulation only) and Create ICC-RGB can make a custom one that also includes the color information.

I use another technique. I like to keep my files in the rather universal Gray Gamma 2.2, so I edit in that space. Then for QTR I apply a curve that adjusts the values. I believe my curve can be found at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Roark-QTR-ACV.zip . Or in most of my Profile zip files.

Hope this helps.

Paul
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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:46 AM, 'Lutsky, Berel' berel.lutsky@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I believe that there is a step-by-step for this on the northlight website, but you can get very close to a BW soft proof by editing in Gray gamma 2.2, on a calibrated monitor, this will give a good indication of the tonality, shadow detail etc. it will not show you any effects of toning -



Berel Lutsky
Associate Professor of Art
UW Manitowoc
920-683-4735


Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Print Preview/Soft Proofing

2014-05-29 by Paul Ozzello

Hi Paul,

That helps a lot. I haven't finished creating my profiles for Hot Press Bright and have been using the curves for Exhibition Velvet instead and I'm getting some very fine prints after applying the GG22-QTR curve Would I see a 'better' result if I create my own curves ?

Paul


Paul

________________________________________________

Paul OZZELLO
Fine art photography
www.paulozzello.com
Tel: +1.514.451.8399
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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

QTR prints with a very linear (straight-line) Lab-L. Gray Gamma 2.2 compresses the deep shadow tones. See the graph at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Lab-L-QTR-v-GrayGamma-2-2.jpg

Many soft proof (In PS: View>Proof Setup>Custom [insert ICC in "Device to Simulate"]) their images on the monitor by using an ICC. The QTR download has some canned ICCs (Lab L simulation only) and Create ICC-RGB can make a custom one that also includes the color information.

I use another technique. I like to keep my files in the rather universal Gray Gamma 2.2, so I edit in that space. Then for QTR I apply a curve that adjusts the values. I believe my curve can be found at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Roark-QTR-ACV.zip . Or in most of my Profile zip files.

Hope this helps.

Paul


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:46 AM, 'Lutsky, Berel' berel.lutsky@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I believe that there is a step-by-step for this on the northlight website, but you can get very close to a BW soft proof by editing in Gray gamma 2.2, on a calibrated monitor, this will give a good indication of the tonality, shadow detail etc. it will not show you any effects of toning -



Berel Lutsky
Associate Professor of Art
UW Manitowoc
920-683-4735



Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Print Preview/Soft Proofing

2014-05-29 by Paul Roark

If you're editing in Gray Gamma 2.2, just use my curve for printing; probably no point in making your own. You can tweak the curve if you find it needs it, but if your system is calibrated you'll probably find my curve works well for the vast majority of shots. Be sure to apply the curve only to a printing copy and save it as such -- like with QTR in the name. Don't flatten and then proceed to edit the file with the curve on it.

You could have the curve on a layer, but I prefer to just apply the curve to a final saved working file, save a speical printing copy to the Desktop, drag and drop that into QTR, and then drag the QTR printing copy to the trash to avoid confusion.

Paul
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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Paul Ozzello paul.ozzello@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Paul,

That helps a lot. I haven't finished creating my profiles for Hot Press Bright and have been using the curves for Exhibition Velvet instead and I'm getting some very fine prints after applying the GG22-QTR curve Would I see a 'better' result if I create my own curves ?

Paul


Paul

________________________________________________

Paul OZZELLO
Fine art photography
www.paulozzello.com
Tel: +1.514.451.8399


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Paul Roark roark.paul@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

QTR prints with a very linear (straight-line) Lab-L. Gray Gamma 2.2 compresses the deep shadow tones. See the graph at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Lab-L-QTR-v-GrayGamma-2-2.jpg

Many soft proof (In PS: View>Proof Setup>Custom [insert ICC in "Device to Simulate"]) their images on the monitor by using an ICC. The QTR download has some canned ICCs (Lab L simulation only) and Create ICC-RGB can make a custom one that also includes the color information.

I use another technique. I like to keep my files in the rather universal Gray Gamma 2.2, so I edit in that space. Then for QTR I apply a curve that adjusts the values. I believe my curve can be found at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Roark-QTR-ACV.zip . Or in most of my Profile zip files.

Hope this helps.

Paul


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:46 AM, 'Lutsky, Berel' berel.lutsky@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I believe that there is a step-by-step for this on the northlight website, but you can get very close to a BW soft proof by editing in Gray gamma 2.2, on a calibrated monitor, this will give a good indication of the tonality, shadow detail etc. it will not show you any effects of toning -



Berel Lutsky
Associate Professor of Art
UW Manitowoc
920-683-4735




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