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2017-07-07 by Arthur Romano

I have a lot of 35 mm and medium format film to scan and wondering if anyone
can make a recommendation. I am a fine art photographer that will  be
displaying prints from 8x10 to 16x20 . I am not interested so much in speed
of the scan but highest resolution for printing.  Also do you think the scan
will come close to enlarging with a schnieder lens?

 

Getting tired of dealing with the chemicals I just picked up an EPSON P600
to get some archival quality to get me started.

 

Art

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-07 by Mark Savoia

Nikon LS 9000 ED

Mark
stillrivereditions.com
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> On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:55 AM, 'Arthur Romano' aromanocpa@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I have a lot of 35 mm and medium format film to scan and wondering if anyone can make a recommendation. I am a fine art photographer that will  be displaying prints from 8x10 to 16x20 . I am not interested so much in speed  of the scan but highest resolution for printing.  Also do you think the scan will come close to enlarging with a schnieder lens?
>  
> Getting tired of dealing with the chemicals I just picked up an EPSON P600 to get some archival quality to get me started.
>  
> Art
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RE: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-07 by Arthur Romano

Mark


Thanks for the suggestion but that one is a bit out of my price range. Lol.
Looking to spend more like 500 to 700. 
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Nikon LS 9000 ED


 


Mark
stillrivereditions.com <http://stillrivereditions.com> 


 


On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:55 AM, 'Arthur Romano' aromanocpa@...
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I have a lot of 35 mm and medium format film to scan and wondering if anyone
can make a recommendation. I am a fine art photographer that will  be
displaying prints from 8x10 to 16x20 . I am not interested so much in speed
of the scan but highest resolution for printing.  Also do you think the scan
will come close to enlarging with a schnieder lens?


 


Getting tired of dealing with the chemicals I just picked up an EPSON P600
to get some archival quality to get me started.


 


Art

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-07 by George Butch

I am very pleased with my Optek 8200i.  Comes with carriers for 35mm negs and slides and sells numerous places below $500.  Mine came bundled with Lasersoft's Silverfast scanning software.  

George Butch
Plantation, FL…..
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Mark

Thanks for the suggestion but that one is a bit out of my price range. Lol. Looking to spend more like 500 to 700. 

 

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Nikon LS 9000 ED

 

Mark
stillrivereditions.com

 

On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:55 AM, 'Arthur Romano' aromanocpa@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 






I have a lot of 35 mm and medium format film to scan and wondering if anyone can make a recommendation. I am a fine art photographer that will  be displaying prints from 8x10 to 16x20 . I am not interested so much in speed  of the scan but highest resolution for printing.  Also do you think the scan will come close to enlarging with a schnieder lens?

 

Getting tired of dealing with the chemicals I just picked up an EPSON P600 to get some archival quality to get me started.

 

Art

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-07 by Arthur Romano

Thanks George does it give good enlargements?
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I am very pleased with my Optek 8200i.  Comes with carriers for 35mm negs and slides and sells numerous places below $500.  Mine came bundled with Lasersoft's Silverfast scanning software.

George Butch
Plantation, FL…..



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Mark

Thanks for the suggestion but that one is a bit out of my price range. Lol. Looking to spend more like 500 to 700.



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Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations





Nikon LS 9000 ED



Mark
stillrivereditions.com <http://stillrivereditions.com>



On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:55 AM, 'Arthur Romano' aromanocpa@... <mailto:aromanocpa@...>  [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:









I have a lot of 35 mm and medium format film to scan and wondering if anyone can make a recommendation. I am a fine art photographer that will  be displaying prints from 8x10 to 16x20 . I am not interested so much in speed  of the scan but highest resolution for printing.  Also do you think the scan will come close to enlarging with a schnieder lens?



Getting tired of dealing with the chemicals I just picked up an EPSON P600 to get some archival quality to get me started.



Art

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-07 by George Butch

Maximum optical resolution is listed as 7000 dpi.  Frankly I have never gone that high and I'm pleased with my prints.  I bought mine from B&H in NY although it's widely available from major outlets.  Here's the link to the manufacturer:

http://plustek.com/usa/products/film-and-photo-scanners/opticfilm-8200i-ai/

George…..
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Thanks George does it give good enlargements?

 

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I am very pleased with my Optek 8200i.  Comes with carriers for 35mm negs and slides and sells numerous places below $500.  Mine came bundled with Lasersoft's Silverfast scanning software.  

George Butch
Plantation, FL…..

 

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Mark

Thanks for the suggestion but that one is a bit out of my price range. Lol. Looking to spend more like 500 to 700. 

 

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Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 10:07 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

 

  

Nikon LS 9000 ED

 

Mark
stillrivereditions.com

 

On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:55 AM, 'Arthur Romano' aromanocpa@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 








I have a lot of 35 mm and medium format film to scan and wondering if anyone can make a recommendation. I am a fine art photographer that will  be displaying prints from 8x10 to 16x20 . I am not interested so much in speed  of the scan but highest resolution for printing.  Also do you think the scan will come close to enlarging with a schnieder lens?

 

Getting tired of dealing with the chemicals I just picked up an EPSON P600 to get some archival quality to get me started.

 

Art

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-07 by Mark Savoia

Might want to read this thread about that scanner being optical 7000 ppi. You decide.

http://forum.silverfast.com/plustek-f47/plustek-8200i-true-optical-resolution-question-t11571.html <http://forum.silverfast.com/plustek-f47/plustek-8200i-true-optical-resolution-question-t11571.html>


Mark
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> On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:20 AM, 'George Butch' GButch@comcast.net [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Maximum optical resolution is listed as 7000 dpi.  Frankly I have never gone that high and I'm pleased with my prints.  I bought mine from B&H in NY although it's widely available from major outlets.  Here's the link to the manufacturer:
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> http://plustek.com/usa/products/film-and-photo-scanners/opticfilm-8200i-ai/ <http://plustek.com/usa/products/film-and-photo-scanners/opticfilm-8200i-ai/>
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> George…..

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-07 by Arthur Romano

Sounds great George have you done black and white film scans with it and does it hold up with only being 16bit
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Maximum optical resolution is listed as 7000 dpi.  Frankly I have never gone that high and I'm pleased with my prints.  I bought mine from B&H in NY although it's widely available from major outlets.  Here's the link to the manufacturer:


http://plustek.com/usa/products/film-and-photo-scanners/opticfilm-8200i-ai/


George…..





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Thanks George does it give good enlargements?


 



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I am very pleased with my Optek 8200i.  Comes with carriers for 35mm negs and slides and sells numerous places below $500.  Mine came bundled with Lasersoft's Silverfast scanning software.


George Butch
Plantation, FL…..





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Mark


Thanks for the suggestion but that one is a bit out of my price range. Lol. Looking to spend more like 500 to 700.





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Nikon LS 9000 ED





Mark
stillrivereditions.com <http://stillrivereditions.com>





On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:55 AM, 'Arthur Romano' aromanocpa@... <mailto:aromanocpa@...>  [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:





















I have a lot of 35 mm and medium format film to scan and wondering if anyone can make a recommendation. I am a fine art photographer that will  be displaying prints from 8x10 to 16x20 . I am not interested so much in speed  of the scan but highest resolution for printing.  Also do you think the scan will come close to enlarging with a schnieder lens?





Getting tired of dealing with the chemicals I just picked up an EPSON P600 to get some archival quality to get me started.





Art

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-07 by George Butch

Interesting reading.  I'll stick with what I said though.  I have never tried to go to 7200 and I am very happy with the printed output from my scans.  That said, we all have different ideas about what's acceptable.   Marketing hype or not, I think this is a fine scanner for the money.

George…..
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Might want to read this thread about that scanner being optical 7000 ppi. You decide.

 

http://forum.silverfast.com/plustek-f47/plustek-8200i-true-optical-resolution-question-t11571.html

 

 

Mark
stillrivereditions.com

 

On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:20 AM, 'George Butch' GButch@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 





Maximum optical resolution is listed as 7000 dpi.  Frankly I have never gone that high and I'm pleased with my prints.  I bought mine from B&H in NY although it's widely available from major outlets.  Here's the link to the manufacturer:

 <http://plustek.com/usa/products/film-and-photo-scanners/opticfilm-8200i-ai/> http://plustek.com/usa/products/film-and-photo-scanners/opticfilm-8200i-ai/

George…..

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-07 by Mark Savoia

There is also lots of discussion on the interwebs with scanning film higher then its “grain resolution”, you end up scanning the grain.

Mark
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> Interesting reading.  I'll stick with what I said though.  I have never tried to go to 7200 and I am very happy with the printed output from my scans.  That said, we all have different ideas about what's acceptable.   Marketing hype or not, I think this is a fine scanner for the money.
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> George…..
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> Might want to read this thread about that scanner being optical 7000 ppi. You decide.
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> http://forum.silverfast.com/plustek-f47/plustek-8200i-true-optical-resolution-question-t11571.html <http://forum.silverfast.com/plustek-f47/plustek-8200i-true-optical-resolution-question-t11571.html>
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> Mark
> stillrivereditions.com <http://stillrivereditions.com/>
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>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:20 AM, 'George Butch' GButch@... <mailto:GButch@...> [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>> Maximum optical resolution is listed as 7000 dpi.  Frankly I have never gone that high and I'm pleased with my prints.  I bought mine from B&H in NY although it's widely available from major outlets.  Here's the link to the manufacturer:
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>> http://plustek.com/usa/products/film-and-photo-scanners/opticfilm-8200i-ai/ <http://plustek.com/usa/products/film-and-photo-scanners/opticfilm-8200i-ai/>
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-07 by Jacques Caron

Hi Art

Actually, resolution is one aspect of scanning; usually you must take in account the DMax offered by the scanner. I can't help you with medium format film since I use two "flatbed" scanners (not the best choice for films and negatives).

I use a Nikon Super Coolscan 5000ED for 35mm and at 4000 dpi and a DMax of 4.0, the results are great. Since I have more than 100,000 slides, and almost the same amount of B&W negs, a good scanner is the only way to go. The output files (Nikon, at 16-bits, are around 140 Mb). The good thing was that the Nikon driver (free) did a wonderful job (if you stayed away from the "Ice" use); the bad thing is that Nikon stopped the upgrading of the driver and, if you're with a newer system, it is not possible to use the driver.

For that, I bought a VueScan license and, believe it or not, at the price they ask, it's a bargain. My "old" scanner is working perfectly with my newer system (although I kind of lost the RAW attributes ; I must say that VueScan is offering a way of using it but my laziness kept me on the "tiff" side). Moreover, the license "sees" my two other scanners perfectly; so although a bit slower, I can use my "new" Epson V850 Pro and my "old" Microtek Scanmaker i800 (Both with a DMax 0f 4.0).

If you can find a "used" CoolScan (saw one at 400$ US on eBay), it could do the job with all your 35mm tasks.

One word about Silverfast; the license is "hooked" to one product. My V850 came with a "free" license for that scanner and, after trying different settings, I was not impress. The price is quite steep and, for me, overpriced. Sure they are "pro" profiles; that must do a good job but, as a matter of fact, the Epson driver delivered perfectly defined scans out of flat documents. As for "negatives" and "slides", some jagged edges are proprietary of a flatbed scanners. Although I wrote to Epson, the "support" is not so great. You'll have to call to see if they can help you. For me, I never called back, the answers were a bit obscure.

So, at the end. I would say that a resolution of 4000 dpi, with a DMax of at least 4.0 (the more the better- maybe the multi-scanning of Silverfast helps) could do the job. For an example, the Imacon scanner, (rotary one) has a 4.6 Dmax. It is surely out of your ballpark for the price, but, since these seem the best scanners out there you can see that a medium format resolution is around 3200 dpi. Must be the DMax!


Jacques Caron

On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:55 AM, 'Arthur Romano' aromanocpa@optonline.net [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:






I have a lot of 35 mm and medium format film to scan and wondering if anyone can make a recommendation. I am a fine art photographer that will be displaying prints from 8x10 to 16x20 . I am not interested so much in speed of the scan but highest resolution for printing. Also do you think the scan will come close to enlarging with a schnieder lens?
;
Getting tired of dealing with the chemicals I just picked up an EPSON P600 to get some archival quality to get me started.
Art



RE: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-08 by efo@...

The 8200i does not handle medium format.

Plustek's 120-capable scanner is the OpticFilm 120, which does a nice job for me but is $2k, more than I think you're hoping to spend. Still, as far as machines in the sub-$10k class, it's the best one still in production.

In the sub-$1000 range, it's pretty much the Epson V800 if you want medium format. They do a very good job - noticeably less sharp than the Plustek only if you look at individual pixels at 2400 dpi or above. The Epson will have a little less contrast (or a little more flare) as well. But its price/performance is as good as you can get with currently-produced machines.


Re: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-08 by Myron Gochnauer

In the sub-$1000 range, it's pretty much the Epson V800 if you want medium format. They do a very good job - noticeably less sharp than the Plustek only if you look at individual pixels at 2400 dpi or above. The Epson will have a little less contrast (or a little more flare) as well. But its price/performance is as good as you can get with currently-produced machines.

Depending on the photo equipment you have, *copying* negatives with a digital camera is a good option than need not be thought of as a stop-gap measure.  It can be much faster than any scanner and/or can produce results that are as good as anyone could want.

Because I have long had a darkroom, I have a 4x5 "cold light" head (even illumination), a variety of negative carriers for a 4x5 enlarger (holding negatives and masking off light around the image), and a "copy stand" made from an electric-drill-holding drill press stand.  The cold light head sits flat on the copy stand base (light diffuser up), the negative carrier sits on top of that, and a Nikon D800 with a macro lens is attached to the copy stand upright.  I use a tripod head leveller to square up the negative and camera. (Slide the camera carrier down until the front of the lens touches the negative carrier, and then use the leveller to make the lens sit flat/square on the lens board.) Because I only have B&W negatives, colour balance of the light source is not an issue for me. For best result I copy 6x6 negatives in two pieces and stitch the result together. (This may or may not be necessary for my TMY and Tri-X Pro negatives ultimately printed on paper no wider than 17 inches.)

I suspect that name-brand macro lenses are at least as good as the optics on Epson and Chinese scanners, and the dynamic range of DSLRs is *way* more than is needed to copy any printable film negative.

Myron

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: scanner recommendations

2017-07-08 by Jacques Caron

Thanks

A very nice link; since I use a V850 Pro for media format, I find very interesting the different ways one can scan to obtain the best results possible. I must try the "wet" method for sure.

Reading the article, for 35mm, a dedicated scanner gives better results (it is clearly said). I use a Nikon Supercoolscan 5000 for that. Although not supported anymore by Nikon, I use VueScan Pro (latest version) with the scanner.

Thanks again


Jacques Caron

Le 2017-07-08 à 09:27, "exe.rpd@... [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :



You might find reading this interesting as you search for a solution.......







Re: scanner recommendations

2017-07-08 by Myron Gochnauer

You might find reading this interesting as you search for a solution.......

http://brucevarner.com/V600ScanMethods.html

Good Grief!  It is widely accepted that wet mounting improves the scans, but it is surprising that the V600 film holders were so *far* off.

Cost can probably explain the lack of on-the-fly focussing on Epson scanners. It does not explain the lack (if there *is* a lack) of a way to tweak the focus by some kind of internal adjustment (a kind of shimming or otherwise moving the lens or CCD).  At the very least Epson should ensure that focus can be adjusted by shimming the film hold "up" (away from the glass) and never "down".

Myron

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: scanner recommendations

2017-07-09 by Jacques Caron

Hi

Actually this is possible on the V850. The "holder" for films all have these notches to raise or lower the emulsion vs the glass. I don't know if it helps but I made some test nd, yes, there is a big difference.

Jacques Caron

Le 2017-07-08 à 19:57, "Myron Gochnauer goch@... [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :




You might find reading this interesting as you search for a solution.......


Good Grief! It is widely accepted that wet mounting improves the scans, but it is surprising that the V600 film holders were so *far* off.

Cost can probably explain the lack of on-the-fly focussing on Epson scanners. It does not explain the lack (if there *is* a lack) of a way to tweak the focus by some kind of internal adjustment (a kind of shimming or otherwise moving the lens or CCD). ;At the very least Epson should ensure that focus can be adjusted by shimming the film hold "up" (away from the glass) and never "down".

Myron





Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: scanner recommendations

2017-07-09 by Myron Gochnauer

Actually this is possible on the V850. The "holder" for films all have these notches to raise or lower the emulsion vs the glass. I don't know if it helps but I made some test nd, yes, there is a big difference.

Yes.  I have the V800, which works the same way. Epson finally realized that their manufacturing tolerances and quality control were not fine enough not to require minor adjustment by at least some end-users.

I used to have a 4870, and bought a much-improved, 3rd party 120 holder.  I can't think of the name right now, but I corresponded with the designer, asking whether the Epson might not be improved by replacing the glass platten with one that had an opening (cut out) so that there was no glass at all between the lens and the film being scanned.  My recollection is that he said he had tried it but could see no improvement.

Myron

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-10 by Jacques Caron

Thanks Myron

This is very instructive. If you can find the name of the third party "holder maker", I would be glad to give it a try (Hopefully for a 800/850 family)

As you wrote, I'm not too happy with the "permanent glasses" on the Epson holders; although I think it was design to hold the emulsion flat so the scan could be equally good from side to side. Your recollection of seeing no improvement is informative. I keep testing the scans...

Cleaning and keeping all these surfaces free from dust is a burden. If I use my "old" Microtek i800, the holders are quite good (no glass) although there is no adjustments.

All my negs (be it 35mm, 6x6, 6x9 or 4x5) have been kept out of the light and in archival glassine, in holders that kept them flat. For me, I don't see the use of glasses in holders.

One thing is that I use a Nikon scanner for my 35mm; when using the Epson (although the scans are quite good) I can "see" at 300% enlargement in PhotoShop (yes I'm finicky), there is some jagging in the scan. You'll get some screen captures in your email.

Thanks again


Jacques Caron

Le 2017-07-09 à 08:34, Myron Gochnauer goch@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :



Actually this is possible on the V850. The "holder" for films all have these notches to raise or lower the emulsion vs the glass. I don't know if it helps but I made some test nd, yes, there is a big difference.

Yes. I have the V800, which works the same way. Epson finally realized that their manufacturing tolerances and quality control were not fine enough not to require minor adjustment by at least some end-users.

I used to have a 4870, and bought a much-improved, 3rd party 120 holder. I can't think of the name right now, but I corresponded with the designer, asking whether the Epson might not be improved by replacing the glass platten with one that had an opening (cut out) so that there was no glass at all between the lens and the film being scanned. My recollection is that he said he had tried it but could see no improvement.

Myron




Re: [QuadtoneRIP] scanner recommendations

2017-07-13 by Myron Gochnauer

Yes, that is the company who supplied a much improved 120 film holder for my 4870.  Very well made. Held Kodak 120 films, at least, very flat without glass.

Myron


I think what you are looking for is this:
http://www.betterscanning.com/

Sidney

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.