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Problems with QTR and Epson 2000P and Epson EX

Problems with QTR and Epson 2000P and Epson EX

2005-11-21 by jcrcameras

Hi,

I am a new member here. I just downloaded QTR and have a few 
problems:

1. There are no profiles for my printers which are Epson 2000P and 
Epson EX. These are fairly old printers I know, but they give me 
good prints, and are listed as being suitable for QTR. Does anyone 
have any profiles to let me have. 

2. My 2000P printer will print but prints are too dark. It seems 
that I need to instal some profiles.

3. My EX printer will not print as QTR is looking for a driver 
ESCP2 - EX. The driver I have installed is EX - ESCP2 which is newly 
installed from the Epson-Europe site. The letters / figures are the 
same but in a different order.

I would appreciate some help re the above matters.

Best Wishes,

John

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Problems with QTR and Epson 2000P and Epson EX

2005-11-22 by Roy Harrington

Hi John,

Both of these printers -- 2000P and EX -- are pretty old and not
much of a following.   As far as I know QTR will drive both printers
but there aren't any profiles.  I think MIS sells a B&W inkset for the
2000P with info about printing via the Epson driver.

If you have the equipment and energy its not very hard to do profiles
but there is some learning.

Roy


On Monday, November 21, 2005, at 06:49  AM, jcrcameras wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am a new member here. I just downloaded QTR and have a few
> problems:
>
> 1. There are no profiles for my printers which are Epson 2000P and
> Epson EX. These are fairly old printers I know, but they give me
> good prints, and are listed as being suitable for QTR. Does anyone
> have any profiles to let me have.
>
> 2. My 2000P printer will print but prints are too dark. It seems
> that I need to instal some profiles.
>
> 3. My EX printer will not print as QTR is looking for a driver
> ESCP2 - EX. The driver I have installed is EX - ESCP2 which is newly
> installed from the Epson-Europe site. The letters / figures are the
> same but in a different order.
>
> I would appreciate some help re the above matters.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Roy Harrington
roy@...
Black & White Photo Gallery
http://www.harrington.com

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Problems with QTR and Epson 2000P and Epson EX

2005-11-22 by John Rushton

Hi Roy,

Thank you for your email. It is a great shame that there are no profiles for
the 2000P. The prints I get, without the profiles, are too dark but there is
no colour casts or metamerism. Is there any other way to get a profile. I do
not have any equipment to make a profile but is it possble that the profiles
of another Epson printer could be used? If so I would appreciate some
guidance as to how to obtain and instal them I do want this to work.

Best Wishes,
John and Cathy
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Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Problems with QTR and Epson 2000P and Epson EX

Hi John,

Both of these printers -- 2000P and EX -- are pretty old and not
much of a following.   As far as I know QTR will drive both printers
but there aren't any profiles.  I think MIS sells a B&W inkset for the
2000P with info about printing via the Epson driver.

If you have the equipment and energy its not very hard to do profiles
but there is some learning.

Roy


On Monday, November 21, 2005, at 06:49  AM, jcrcameras wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am a new member here. I just downloaded QTR and have a few
> problems:
>
> 1. There are no profiles for my printers which are Epson 2000P and
> Epson EX. These are fairly old printers I know, but they give me
> good prints, and are listed as being suitable for QTR. Does anyone
> have any profiles to let me have.
>
> 2. My 2000P printer will print but prints are too dark. It seems
> that I need to instal some profiles.
>
> 3. My EX printer will not print as QTR is looking for a driver
> ESCP2 - EX. The driver I have installed is EX - ESCP2 which is newly
> installed from the Epson-Europe site. The letters / figures are the
> same but in a different order.
>
> I would appreciate some help re the above matters.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
-
Roy Harrington
roy@...
Black & White Photo Gallery
http://www.harrington.com



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Re: Problems with QTR and Epson 2000P and Epson EX

2005-11-24 by jcrcameras

Hi

Further to my problem with QTR, The Epson 2000P printer and the lack 
of curves, I have been experimenting today and I have found that I 
can use QTR with my 2000P and get a good print.

I simply treated the image as usual in Photoshop to get the best on 
screen representation of the scene, as if editing for a Photoshop 
print, then I converted it to greyscale, then I went to Image > 
Adjustments > Curves. Then I clicked on the curve line and put the 
following values into the Input / Output boxes as follows:

Input              63

Output           128

This gave me a pale image on screen with blown out highlights. I 
then saved this curve for future use. Your values may be a bit 
different depending on your printer characteristis but it will do as 
a trial and you can adjust the Input / Output values to your taste. 
I then saved the image. I opened QTR and loaded the image. I chose 
the Printer as Epson 2000P, set Printer Model to Quad 2000, chose 
Resolution 1440 Super, chose Speed – better, and pressed print.

The image produced was free of casts and metamerism, but was not as 
fine as an image produced by Photoshop in that the printer dots were 
more noticable under a magnifier, were much like the grain one gets 
with film and a wet print, but were not visible to the naked eye. It 
seems that QTR was only using the black ink. 

I am amazed that this simple method was not known by the other group 
members. I dont see why this method will not work with other 
printers for which profiles are not included in the Rip download.

Best Wishes,
John



--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "jcrcameras" <john_rushton@b...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I am a new member here. I just downloaded QTR and have a few 
> problems:
> 
> 1. There are no profiles for my printers which are Epson 2000P and 
> Epson EX. These are fairly old printers I know, but they give me 
> good prints, and are listed as being suitable for QTR. Does anyone 
> have any profiles to let me have. 
> 
> 2. My 2000P printer will print but prints are too dark. It seems 
> that I need to instal some profiles.
> 
> 3. My EX printer will not print as QTR is looking for a driver 
> ESCP2 - EX. The driver I have installed is EX - ESCP2 which is 
newly 
> installed from the Epson-Europe site. The letters / figures are 
the 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> same but in a different order.
> 
> I would appreciate some help re the above matters.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> John
>

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