QTR-Quadtone RIP

I have an Epson Surecolor P800, and given the copyright (!!!) mess, I'm pretty much stuck with Epson cartridges. Went with Imageprint by Colorbyte for printing.. which is fine. One day maybe this thing will open up a bit. Love to be able to use the wide range of blacks.

In the meantime, I wanted to ask a question because of course, any change from my current set-up with Colorbyte results in some major $'s.

The impression an outsider gets looking in may not be fair - usually isn't, and I have to say that from where I sit, Quadtone-RIP seems more like Linux software... very capable in the right hands, but requires a level of inner geekdom that not all of us may possess or want to apply here. And maybe it's easier to learn than it looks... but yes, it looks EXTREMELY hard. I did Linux for a few years and ultimately went back to Windows 'cause MS fixed its problems faster than Linux software was able to reach the "finished" point where it was easy to learn. Do you HAVE to take a class to get this? Looks like it. And of course I "know" there's an Epson P800 interface, but what's gained over Imageprint's canned paper profiles, ink matching, etc.

If I ever go out and buy an Epson 3880 or 3800 to get in the game... I guess I'll be in for the whole nine yards. My question is whether or not this software is really getting easier for newby types, or not. Love to hear your thoughts.

> I have an Epson Surecolor P800, and given the copyright (!!!) mess, I'm pretty much stuck with Epson cartridges. Went with Imageprint by Colorbyte for printing.. which is fine. One day maybe this thing will open up a bit. Love to be able to use the wide range of blacks.
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I have not verified it by dumping the NVRAM of the printer, but the printer throws zero non-genuine warnings when you use the chip decoder on it. That (most likely) means that if you have a printer under warranty and you develop a problem that is a normal printer problem, you can take the board out, put the epson carts in, do some power cleanings and call for a service repair covered by warranty: they should not be the wiser. I can’t guarantee this until I make sure no non-genuine ink flags have been silently flipped in the count tables of the printer though . . .

As an aside, epson is clearly violating in the Magnuson-Moss Warrenty Act but they just haven’t been called out for it in the courts (unlike HP which was sued and had to back off their firmware update).


> In the meantime, I wanted to ask a question because of course, any change from my current set-up with Colorbyte results in some major $'s.
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> The impression an outsider gets looking in may not be fair - usually isn't, and I have to say that from where I sit, Quadtone-RIP seems more like Linux software... very capable in the right hands, but requires a level of inner geekdom that not all of us may possess or want to apply here. And maybe it's easier to learn than it looks... but yes, it looks EXTREMELY hard. I did Linux for a few years and ultimately went back to Windows 'cause MS fixed its problems faster than Linux software was able to reach the "finished" point where it was easy to learn. Do you HAVE to take a class to get this? Looks like it. And of course I "know" there's an Epson P800 interface, but what's gained over Imageprint's canned paper profiles, ink matching, etc.
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Having uses both ColorByte and QTR, I would say QTR is actually easier but just different. You have to learn a few things like installing from an install.command and also the installer itself is not security signed so if you download QTR you have to go to your sec prefs and click “Open Anyway” etc. There are small hiccups that are easily resolved and are really only one-time-things. QTR goes heavy and complex, but it doesn’t require that depth of knowledge just to use.

> If I ever go out and buy an Epson 3880 or 3800 to get in the game... I guess I'll be in for the whole nine yards. My question is whether or not this software is really getting easier for newby types, or not. Love to hear your thoughts
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Are you getting the dreaded P800 banding when using it with QTR?  I gave up and doing my negatives without it.

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> On Jan 11, 2018, at 12:53 PM, 'forums@...' forums@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> > I have an Epson Surecolor P800, and given the copyright (!!!) mess, I'm pretty much stuck with Epson cartridges. Went with Imageprint by Colorbyte for printing.. which is fine. One day maybe this thing will open up a bit. Love to be able to use the wide range of blacks.
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> I have not verified it by dumping the NVRAM of the printer, but the printer throws zero non-genuine warnings when you use the chip decoder on it. That (most likely) means that if you have a printer under warranty and you develop a problem that is a normal printer problem, you can take the board out, put the epson carts in, do some power cleanings and call for a service repair covered by warranty: they should not be the wiser. I can’t guarantee this until I make sure no non-genuine ink flags have been silently flipped in the count tables of the printer though . . .
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> As an aside, epson is clearly violating in the Magnuson-Moss Warrenty Act but they just haven’t been called out for it in the courts (unlike HP which was sued and had to back off their firmware update).
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> > In the meantime, I wanted to ask a question because of course, any change from my current set-up with Colorbyte results in some major $'s.
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> > The impression an outsider gets looking in may not be fair - usually isn't, and I have to say that from where I sit, Quadtone-RIP seems more like Linux software... very capable in the right hands, but requires a level of inner geekdom that not all of us may possess or want to apply here. And maybe it's easier to learn than it looks... but yes, it looks EXTREMELY hard. I did Linux for a few years and ultimately went back to Windows 'cause MS fixed its problems faster than Linux software was able to reach the "finished" point where it was easy to learn. Do you HAVE to take a class to get this? Looks like it. And of course I "know" there's an Epson P800 interface, but what's gained over Imageprint's canned paper profiles, ink matching, etc.
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> Having uses both ColorByte and QTR, I would say QTR is actually easier but just different. You have to learn a few things like installing from an install.command and also the installer itself is not security signed so if you download QTR you have to go to your sec prefs and click “Open Anyway” etc. There are small hiccups that are easily resolved and are really only one-time-things. QTR goes heavy and complex, but it doesn’t require that depth of knowledge just to use.
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> > If I ever go out and buy an Epson 3880 or 3800 to get in the game... I guess I'll be in for the whole nine yards. My question is whether or not this software is really getting easier for newby types, or not. Love to hear your thoughts
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It is a problem which I have been tackling for many months.

Stay tuned . . .

Best,
Walker
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