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Creating a QTR Profile/Curve

Creating a QTR Profile/Curve

2018-12-09 by Terry Glass

I’m having trouble wrapping my brain around selecting Limits and Densities and other settings to create a Profile for a Digital Negative for Silver Gelatin.
Using a P800 and printing the inkseparation file  and the SG readings are:
PK gives white at 55
Magenta gives white at 80
Note Yellow no blocking for tungsten light.
LK Ink almost blocks at 100
Other inks no blocking 
Now what numbers, etc do I put in QTR Curve Creator? I’m on a PC.

Thanks
Terry Glass

Re: Creating a QTR Profile/Curve

2018-12-09 by per@...

Hi Terry. I have recently gone through the process to create a silver digital negative profile for a stock p800 from start to end (in fact. my first print using this flow was last night). I would suggest you look at Keith Schreibers page at https://jkschreiber.wordpress.com/platinumpalladium-notes/digital-negatives-with-quadtonerip/ and pay attention to the back and forth between me and Keith in the comments. Armed with a densiometer, it was really not too hard to make a workable p800 digital negative profile. Is it the best possible one? I don't know yet. But my first print using this profile looks good on fiber paper. My next step will be to print a high quality inkjet print of the same picture and compare to see if there is a difference in tonal gradation and smoothness between the two versions. The sharpness is defintely good enough. Would piezography be better? Probably. But I am starting where I am at.

You may also want to know that Walker Blackwell sells a system at bwmastery that aims helps you through the process (https://www.bwmastery.com/quadtoneprofiler-digital-negatives/). I have not tried it, as I wanted to figure things out myself first. It may offer better controls for linearization than just doing a greycurve and then linearizing. If you try it, let me know what you think.

Re: Creating a QTR Profile/Curve

2018-12-10 by richard@...

Just a quick clarification: Walker Blackwell is over at Piezography and made the PiezoDN Excel-based system for dedicated black and white printers. I’m Richard Boutwell at bwmastery.com and made the QuickCurve-DN macOS app( and Excel-based tools for Windows) for K3-style (P800 etc, that can be used for dedicated black and white curves as well)

All the best,
Richard Boutwell

www.RichardBoutwell.com
www.BWMastery.com

Re: Creating a QTR Profile/Curve

2018-12-10 by per@...

Uhoh, embarrassing. Well, my intention was to point to the webpage so that I accomplished at least even if I mixed up whose software it was. My apologies.

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Creating a QTR Profile/Curve

2018-12-10 by Simone Simoncini

I would use only blacks in your case.

Il giorno dom 9 dic 2018, 04:50 Terry Glass TerryGls@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
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I’m having trouble wrapping my brain around selecting Limits and Densities and other settings to create a Profile for a Digital Negative for Silver Gelatin.

Using a P800 and printing the inkseparation file and the SG readings are:
PK gives white at 55
Magenta gives white at 80
Note Yellow no blocking for tungsten light.
LK Ink almost blocks at 100
Other inks no blocking
Now what numbers, etc do I put in QTR Curve Creator? I’m on a PC.

Thanks
Terry Glass

Re: Creating a QTR Profile/Curve

2018-12-10 by TerryGls@...

Thanks for all the help on this.
I posted my inkseparation image from QTR in fB Group Digital Negatives for Contact Printing as not able to post here. Had a good suggestion from Richard Boutwell as to where to start to craft a QTR Profile.

Regards, Terry

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