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using Epson 1400 profiles on a 1430

using Epson 1400 profiles on a 1430

2019-09-20 by paulmwhiting@...

For now, am using Red River paper on a 1400. I found this file


Eb6-RedRiverAurora-11-2011


in the 1400 family of profiles. At the beginning of the qidf profile I find this line:


PRINTER=Quad1400-MIS


Can I simply change the 1400 to a 1430? In other words, does the computer "read" that line to direct the qidf to

a different family of printers?


Also, according to the RedRiver website there are two Auroras ... Aurora Art White and Aurora Art Natural. Which one is this qidf using?


Finally, can I alter the profile to generate a pair of VT profiles?


Thank you,


Paul W.



Re: [QuadtoneRIP] using Epson 1400 profiles on a 1430

2019-09-20 by Paul Roark

I think my transition from the 1400 to the 1430 went without a hitch, but I don't specifically recall.

I use the Natural Aurora. The difference is OBA's in the White. They'll fade, but whether that matters is subjective.

For most I recommend the toner take the Y position. This light 2% ink there is lighter than needed. The LM (or 6% dilution) can easily cover the light end. So, knock the Y out of the gray partition in QTR and "Show Curve" to save it and generate the *.quad file QTR actually uses.

Since only the very light end is affected, it may be fine without any new linearization.

The Y can use the bluish toner I give a formula for and MIS sells a clone of. I manually draw the toner curves. QTR may also have a set of generic "toner" curves that will do an acceptable job -- not sure about that, however. If nothing more, they can be starter curves if nothing else works.

Good luck.

Paul
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On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 10:51 AM paulmwhiting@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

For now, am using Red River paper on a 1400. I found this file


Eb6-RedRiverAurora-11-2011


in the 1400 family of profiles. At the beginning of the qidf profile I find this line:


PRINTER=Quad1400-MIS


Can I simply change the 1400 to a 1430? In other words, does the computer "read" that line to direct the qidf to

a different family of printers?


Also, according to the RedRiver website there are two Auroras ... Aurora Art White and Aurora Art Natural. Which one is this qidf using?


Finally, can I alter the profile to generate a pair of VT profiles?


Thank you,


Paul W.



Re: [QuadtoneRIP] using Epson 1400 profiles on a 1430

2019-09-20 by paulmwhiting@...

Thanks, Paul.

So the profile for the Aurora is for the Aurora Natural, not the Aurora White. I had a hunch you'd be in favor of the Natural. Funny, for many years in the darkroom my paper of choice was the Ilford MultiGrade or something like that. I was draw to its pure black. But, toward the end of my darkroom days I discovered Agfa MultiGrade Classic (again, something like that) and I was drawn to its blacks. Those prints had a richness and warmth I grew to appreciate. Now in this digital era I never print with 100% Neutral, I find it too cold. Must be getting to be a softy in my old age.

In fact I often don't use that toner at all. My only concern is that part of the nozzle may clog up from disuse. Strange thing happened the other day though. My Y (the toner) cart ran completely dry, dry as a bone. All the remaining five were about half full. I should add that was on my 1430... still breaking it in. It's a refurb and so far so good, had a few glitches that got worked out.

Regards,

Paul

---In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, <roark.paul@...> wrote :

I think my transition from the 1400 to the 1430 went without a hitch, but I don't specifically recall.

I use the Natural Aurora. The difference is OBA's in the White. They'll fade, but whether that matters is subjective.

For most I recommend the toner take the Y position. This light 2% ink there is lighter than needed. The LM (or 6% dilution) can easily cover the light end. So, knock the Y out of the gray partition in QTR and "Show Curve" to save it and generate the *.quad file QTR actually uses.

Since only the very light end is affected, it may be fine without any new linearization.

The Y can use the bluish toner I give a formula for and MIS sells a clone of. I manually draw the toner curves. QTR may also have a set of generic "toner" curves that will do an acceptable job -- not sure about that, however. If nothing more, they can be starter curves if nothing else works.

Good luck.

Paul
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Re: using Epson 1400 profiles on a 1430

2019-09-21 by paulmwhiting@...

Paul R,

So the profile for Red River Natural doesn't use the toner in the Y position? Does the Y cartridge then risk clogging? Maybe an occasional nozzle check would exercise all six positions, and if the Y position shows good, would that be enough to keep it free from clogs - in case I need that position at some future date?

Paul W

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: using Epson 1400 profiles on a 1430

2019-09-22 by Paul Roark



On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 3:39 PM paulmwhiting@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Paul R,

So the profile for Red River Natural doesn';t use the toner in the Y position? ...

I no longer have a 1430 and do not have access to viewing the profiles. I most often did use the toner, as I prefer neutral prints. With the inksets I have put together over the years, most of the positions are 100% carbon. If they are printed without the use of a blue toner, they'll be warmer than I like (on most papers and with most printers). So, I most often had a blue toner in the printer as well as 100% carbon inks. For the vast majority of my printing, I did use the blue toner in the profile.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com


Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: using Epson 1400 profiles on a 1430

2019-09-22 by Paul Roark

BTW, for a somewhat dated list of inksets I've put together and links, see https://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Inkset-list.html

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 5:13 PM Paul Roark <roark.paul@...> wrote:


On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 3:39 PM paulmwhiting@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Paul R,

So the profile for Red River Natural doesn't use the toner in the Y position? ...

I no longer have a 1430 and do not have access to viewing the profiles. I most often did use the toner, as I prefer neutral prints. With the inksets I have put together over the years, most of the positions are 100% carbon. If they are printed without the use of a blue toner, they'll be warmer than I like (on most papers and with most printers). So, I most often had a blue toner in the printer as well as 100% carbon inks. For the vast majority of my printing, I did use the blue toner in the profile.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com


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