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The end of QTR?

The end of QTR?

2019-10-02 by chanhongwang@...

Epson just annouced their new 24" and 44" printer which I'm pretty sure they shared the printhead with P10000 and P20000. I am wondering if QTR will be update and able to communicate with these 2 new model or not since they are very different from the old printhead technology. We'll see...

Re: The end of QTR?

2019-10-02 by roy@...

Well looking at the specs I don't think there's any way to support the new Pro printers.
Apple is due to make things harder too. Save your old printers and computers. Sorry.
Roy

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: The end of QTR?

2019-10-02 by Paul Roark

For wide format printers, I recommend keeping an eye on Craigslist in metropolitan areas. The color shops upgrade to the latest for color, and the older printers are often sold on the local Craigslist. I found my very good 7800 and 9800 Epson's on the Los Angeles Craigslist. (It was a 3 hour drive for me to pick them up.) These wide format printers are made for serious, high volume work, which means they might outlive me given my relatively low volume of B&W printing. If you see a 7800 for sale, grab it!

Paul
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On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:02 AM roy@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Well looking at the specs I don't think there's any way to support the new Pro printers.

Apple is due to make things harder too. Save your old printers and computers. Sorry.
Roy

Re: The end of QTR?

2019-10-02 by richard@...

Roy, is the problem the signing and app notarization or the separating the OS into the read-only system stuff and user data partitions?

I got worried watching wwdc and the driver kit stuff, but didn’t expect problems at the printer level.

Re: The end of QTR?

2019-10-02 by roy@...

I've played with signing and notarizing. Had mixed results but fortunately its still ok
to have neither and still get programs installed. Who knows when that will stop
working. I think I've figured the separation of system/data thing and its not a big
problem. But there's talk and rumors of NO printer drivers sometime in the future.
I really don't know what that means. Maybe printers will need to take PDFs directly.
That would preclude QTR driver doing something differently. So far I really don't know.
Basically to secure everything on an OS you have to disallow system level third party code.

Even now there's a new protocol for Pro printers but it happens that they still
accept old protocol. Epson could drop that any time. There's no documentation
on the new protocol.

Roy

Re: The end of QTR?

2019-10-02 by roy@...

I've played with signing and notarizing. Had mixed results but fortunately its still ok
to have neither and still get programs installed. Who knows when that will stop
working. I think I've figured the separation of system/data thing and its not a big
problem. But there's talk and rumors of NO printer drivers sometime in the future.
I really don't know what that means. Maybe printers will need to take PDFs directly.
That would preclude QTR driver doing something differently. So far I really don't know.
Basically to secure everything on an OS you have to disallow system level third party code.

Even now there's a new protocol for Pro printers but it happens that they still
accept old protocol. Epson could drop that any time. There's no documentation
on the new protocol.

Roy

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] The end of QTR?

2019-10-07 by Walker Blackwell

Drivers will be able to be used forever you just need to sign the BOM/hash that lives in >Library/Printers/ so you need an apple developer’s key. It’s easy though. $70/yr.

Best,
-Walker
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> On Oct 2, 2019, at 4:55 PM, roy@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I've played with signing and notarizing. Had mixed results but fortunately its still ok
> 
> to have neither and still get programs installed.  Who knows when that will stop
> working.  I think I've figured the separation of system/data thing and its not a big
> problem.  But there's talk and rumors of NO printer drivers sometime in the future.
> I really don't know what that means.  Maybe printers will need to take PDFs directly.
> That would preclude QTR driver doing something differently.  So far I really don't know.
> Basically to secure everything on an OS you have to disallow system level third party code.
> 
> Even now there's a new protocol for Pro printers but it happens that they still
> accept old protocol.  Epson could drop that any time.  There's no documentation 
> on the new protocol.  
> 
> Roy
> 
> 
>

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