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Q: creating platinum curves

Q: creating platinum curves

2006-06-11 by Dan

howdy-

firstly, i just started using QTR and am extremely impressed. truly
awesome.

Mac OS 10.4, MediaStreet GQ inks, & R200; do i create create a
platinum curve just by using the light magenta, cyan, & black? is it
really that easy? i've had great luck making my own neutral, warm, &
cool curves but my platinum just looks funky.

i ask because i'm not able to figure what's going on in the supplied
platinum curve descriptor file ("Photo-platinum" in the "R200-R300-GQ"
folder). C & LC curves are being copied to M & LM respectively. but
where did the inklimits being used come from? is this still based on
density or L*, or are these numbers kind of arbitrary?

thanks,
daniel

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Q: creating platinum curves

2006-06-16 by Roy Harrington

Hi Dan,

The idea of a platinum look is warm highlights and cool shadows.
So you could do a LM, C, K profile, but as you see the tones are very
strong so it looks pretty weird.  You can just Tone Blend a very small
amount of this curve with a neutral curve to get something pleasing.

But with the photo-platinum curve supplied the idea is to get a lot 
closer
to neutral with the one curve and I think it would be easier to subtly
achieve the hues you want.   As you see there are 2 curve copies in
the profile so shadows are done with C and M, highlights with LC and LM.
The "basic" ink limit for dark grays is 65 so instead of using just C 
or M
the idea is to mix these two to get a desired shadow tone.  The ink 
limits
are set so C+M=65 and you just adjust to taste.  Similarly LC+LM=65
for the highlights.

The COPY CURVE feature is a convenient way to get a fixed mix of
two inks throughout.  It's like custom mixing a new color of ink.

Roy

On Sunday, June 11, 2006, at 12:09  PM, Dan wrote:

> howdy-
>
> firstly, i just started using QTR and am extremely impressed. truly
> awesome.
>
> Mac OS 10.4, MediaStreet GQ inks, & R200; do i create create a
> platinum curve just by using the light magenta, cyan, & black? is it
> really that easy? i've had great luck making my own neutral, warm, &
> cool curves but my platinum just looks funky.
>
> i ask because i'm not able to figure what's going on in the supplied
> platinum curve descriptor file ("Photo-platinum" in the "R200-R300-GQ"
> folder). C & LC curves are being copied to M & LM respectively. but
> where did the inklimits being used come from? is this still based on
> density or L*, or are these numbers kind of arbitrary?
>
> thanks,
> daniel
>
>
-
Roy Harrington
roy@...
Black & White Photo Gallery
http://www.harrington.com

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