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2006-07-08 by mkitei
Hi, I'm printing on EPSG using the QTR curve for UT2 inks and Premium Luster (there is no canned EPSG curve that I'm aware of)My prints are coming out significantly lighter than the same setup using the Roark curve. Should I be using Eboni as opposed to Photo Black. Are there any QTR curves available for EPSG or for the new Innova Fiba Gloss? Thanks, Mike Kitei
2006-07-08 by Edward Wiseman
Mike.. I'm using "ebony" with QTR, and yes there is a curve for PREM LUSTRE which i am using for both Innova Fibre Gloss and Crane Silver rag..I've also tried it ith PK black, but I don't notice a significant difference with either..BTW, I am ALWAYS spraying with Premier Art shield... Eddie Wiseman ----- Original Message -----
From: "mkitei" <mkitei@...> To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Eboni or photo black for UT2 > Hi, > > I'm printing on EPSG using the QTR curve for UT2 inks and Premium > Luster (there is no canned EPSG curve that I'm aware of)My prints are > coming out significantly lighter than the same setup using the Roark > curve. Should I be using Eboni as opposed to Photo Black. Are there > any QTR curves available for EPSG or for the new Innova Fiba Gloss? > > Thanks, > > Mike Kitei > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2006-07-14 by Roy Harrington
Mike and Eddie, The issue of Eboni ink and photo papers tends to be confusing. Actually Eboni cannot be used on photo paper at all. To get around this the Prem Luster profiles were made using NO black ink. It turns out that the two dark gray inks are sufficient to produce a decent dMax without a K ink. So when you print with these profiles it doesn't matter what K ink is loaded -- its not used. The nice thing is you can leave Eboni in there for printing on matte paper and not have to switch inks. There aren't any curves for the new papers -- I FibaGloss, C SilverRag, and H Pearl, but I imagine the Prem Luster would be a good enough match, at least to start with. Roy On Saturday, July 8, 2006, at 09:57 AM, Edward Wiseman wrote: > Mike.. > > I'm using "ebony" with QTR, and yes there is a curve for PREM LUSTRE > which i > am using for both Innova Fibre Gloss and Crane Silver rag..I've also > tried > it ith PK black, but I don't notice a significant difference with > either..BTW, I am ALWAYS spraying with Premier Art shield... > > Eddie Wiseman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mkitei" <mkitei@...> > To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:45 AM > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Eboni or photo black for UT2 > > >> Hi, >> >> I'm printing on EPSG using the QTR curve for UT2 inks and Premium >> Luster (there is no canned EPSG curve that I'm aware of)My prints are >> coming out significantly lighter than the same setup using the Roark >> curve. Should I be using Eboni as opposed to Photo Black. Are there >> any QTR curves available for EPSG or for the new Innova Fiba Gloss? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mike Kitei >> > - Roy Harrington roy@... Black & White Photo Gallery http://www.harrington.com
2006-07-14 by Edward Wiseman
THX Mike.. WOW!...I guess that's the "reason" my 1280 "black" cart seems to last forever!..(I'm doing very little "matte" paper lately..)..So as I'm also using the "Premium Lustre" profiles for KIRKLAND as well as Epson Premium Lustre and Premium Semigloss as well as for Silver Rag and Fibre Gloss, it appears that I probably am using NO BLACK at all!........What a revelation!!!! Eddie Wiseman ----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Eboni or photo black for UT2 > Mike and Eddie, > > The issue of Eboni ink and photo papers tends to be confusing. > Actually Eboni cannot be used on photo paper at all. To get > around this the Prem Luster profiles were made using NO black > ink. It turns out that the two dark gray inks are sufficient to > produce a decent dMax without a K ink. So when you print with > these profiles it doesn't matter what K ink is loaded -- its not used. > The nice thing is you can leave Eboni in there for printing on > matte paper and not have to switch inks. > > There aren't any curves for the new papers -- I FibaGloss, C SilverRag, > and H Pearl, but I imagine the Prem Luster would be a good enough > match, at least to start with. > > Roy > > On Saturday, July 8, 2006, at 09:57 AM, Edward Wiseman wrote: > > > Mike.. > > > > I'm using "ebony" with QTR, and yes there is a curve for PREM LUSTRE > > which i > > am using for both Innova Fibre Gloss and Crane Silver rag..I've also > > tried > > it ith PK black, but I don't notice a significant difference with > > either..BTW, I am ALWAYS spraying with Premier Art shield... > > > > Eddie Wiseman > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mkitei" <mkitei@...> > > To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:45 AM > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Eboni or photo black for UT2 > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm printing on EPSG using the QTR curve for UT2 inks and Premium > >> Luster (there is no canned EPSG curve that I'm aware of)My prints are > >> coming out significantly lighter than the same setup using the Roark > >> curve. Should I be using Eboni as opposed to Photo Black. Are there > >> any QTR curves available for EPSG or for the new Innova Fiba Gloss? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Mike Kitei > >> > > > - > Roy Harrington > roy@... > Black & White Photo Gallery > http://www.harrington.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2006-07-14 by Edward Wiseman
ERRRR.... of course that should have read "THKS ROY!!" (with apologies..) Eddie ----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Eboni or photo black for UT2 > Mike and Eddie, > > The issue of Eboni ink and photo papers tends to be confusing. > Actually Eboni cannot be used on photo paper at all. To get > around this the Prem Luster profiles were made using NO black > ink. It turns out that the two dark gray inks are sufficient to > produce a decent dMax without a K ink. So when you print with > these profiles it doesn't matter what K ink is loaded -- its not used. > The nice thing is you can leave Eboni in there for printing on > matte paper and not have to switch inks. > > There aren't any curves for the new papers -- I FibaGloss, C SilverRag, > and H Pearl, but I imagine the Prem Luster would be a good enough > match, at least to start with. > > Roy > > On Saturday, July 8, 2006, at 09:57 AM, Edward Wiseman wrote: > > > Mike.. > > > > I'm using "ebony" with QTR, and yes there is a curve for PREM LUSTRE > > which i > > am using for both Innova Fibre Gloss and Crane Silver rag..I've also > > tried > > it ith PK black, but I don't notice a significant difference with > > either..BTW, I am ALWAYS spraying with Premier Art shield... > > > > Eddie Wiseman > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mkitei" <mkitei@...> > > To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:45 AM > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Eboni or photo black for UT2 > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm printing on EPSG using the QTR curve for UT2 inks and Premium > >> Luster (there is no canned EPSG curve that I'm aware of)My prints are > >> coming out significantly lighter than the same setup using the Roark > >> curve. Should I be using Eboni as opposed to Photo Black. Are there > >> any QTR curves available for EPSG or for the new Innova Fiba Gloss? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Mike Kitei > >> > > > - > Roy Harrington > roy@... > Black & White Photo Gallery > http://www.harrington.com > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2006-07-21 by Sheila Caim
Roy (or anyone who can help), You mention there are Premiun Lustre profiles, but I can't find them. I am using an Epson 4000 with the UC inkset and would love to have a profile for Premium Lustre. I am assuming that by profile, you are talking about what is in the Curves dropdown box? Sorry about my ignorance, but I am new to using QTR. Thanks, Sheila --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
> > Mike and Eddie, > > The issue of Eboni ink and photo papers tends to be confusing. > Actually Eboni cannot be used on photo paper at all. To get > around this the Prem Luster profiles were made using NO black > ink. It turns out that the two dark gray inks are sufficient to > produce a decent dMax without a K ink. So when you print with > these profiles it doesn't matter what K ink is loaded -- its not used. > The nice thing is you can leave Eboni in there for printing on > matte paper and not have to switch inks. > > There aren't any curves for the new papers -- I FibaGloss, C SilverRag, > and H Pearl, but I imagine the Prem Luster would be a good enough > match, at least to start with. > > Roy > > On Saturday, July 8, 2006, at 09:57 AM, Edward Wiseman wrote: > > > Mike.. > > > > I'm using "ebony" with QTR, and yes there is a curve for PREM LUSTRE > > which i > > am using for both Innova Fibre Gloss and Crane Silver rag..I've also > > tried > > it ith PK black, but I don't notice a significant difference with > > either..BTW, I am ALWAYS spraying with Premier Art shield... > > > > Eddie Wiseman > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mkitei" <mkitei@...> > > To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:45 AM > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Eboni or photo black for UT2 > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm printing on EPSG using the QTR curve for UT2 inks and Premium > >> Luster (there is no canned EPSG curve that I'm aware of)My prints are > >> coming out significantly lighter than the same setup using the Roark > >> curve. Should I be using Eboni as opposed to Photo Black. Are there > >> any QTR curves available for EPSG or for the new Innova Fiba Gloss? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Mike Kitei > >> > > > - > Roy Harrington > roy@... > Black & White Photo Gallery > http://www.harrington.com >
2006-07-21 by Roy Harrington
Hi Sheila, There are two sets of curves/profiles that will probably work pretty well with Premium Luster. Try the ISmoothPearl curves or the EPremSMatte ones. Note that the EPremSMatte should be used at 2880dpi whereas the others at 1440. Roy On Friday, July 21, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Sheila Caim wrote: > Roy (or anyone who can help), > > You mention there are Premiun Lustre profiles, but I can't find them. > I am using an Epson 4000 with the UC inkset and would love to have a > profile for Premium Lustre. I am assuming that by profile, you are > talking about what is in the Curves dropdown box? > > Sorry about my ignorance, but I am new to using QTR. > > Thanks, > Sheila > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote: >> >> Mike and Eddie, >> >> The issue of Eboni ink and photo papers tends to be confusing. >> Actually Eboni cannot be used on photo paper at all. To get >> around this the Prem Luster profiles were made using NO black >> ink. It turns out that the two dark gray inks are sufficient to >> produce a decent dMax without a K ink. So when you print with >> these profiles it doesn't matter what K ink is loaded -- its not used. >> The nice thing is you can leave Eboni in there for printing on >> matte paper and not have to switch inks. >> >> There aren't any curves for the new papers -- I FibaGloss, C >> SilverRag, >> and H Pearl, but I imagine the Prem Luster would be a good enough >> match, at least to start with. >> >> Roy >> >> On Saturday, July 8, 2006, at 09:57 AM, Edward Wiseman wrote: >> >>> Mike.. >>> >>> I'm using "ebony" with QTR, and yes there is a curve for PREM LUSTRE >>> which i >>> am using for both Innova Fibre Gloss and Crane Silver rag..I've also >>> tried >>> it ith PK black, but I don't notice a significant difference with >>> either..BTW, I am ALWAYS spraying with Premier Art shield... >>> >>> Eddie Wiseman >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "mkitei" <mkitei@...> >>> To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:45 AM >>> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Eboni or photo black for UT2 >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm printing on EPSG using the QTR curve for UT2 inks and Premium >>>> Luster (there is no canned EPSG curve that I'm aware of)My prints >>>> are >>>> coming out significantly lighter than the same setup using the Roark >>>> curve. Should I be using Eboni as opposed to Photo Black. Are there >>>> any QTR curves available for EPSG or for the new Innova Fiba Gloss? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Mike Kitei >>>> >>> >> - >> Roy Harrington >> roy@... >> Black & White Photo Gallery >> http://www.harrington.com >> > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > - Roy Harrington roy@... Black & White Photo Gallery http://www.harrington.com
2006-07-22 by Sheila Caim
Hi Roy, Thanks very much for answering!!! I'm sure this will solve my problem. Sheila --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
> > Hi Sheila, > > There are two sets of curves/profiles that will probably work pretty > well with > Premium Luster. Try the ISmoothPearl curves or the EPremSMatte ones. > Note that the EPremSMatte should be used at 2880dpi whereas the others > at 1440. > > Roy > > On Friday, July 21, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Sheila Caim wrote: > > > Roy (or anyone who can help), > > > > You mention there are Premiun Lustre profiles, but I can't find them. > > I am using an Epson 4000 with the UC inkset and would love to have a > > profile for Premium Lustre. I am assuming that by profile, you are > > talking about what is in the Curves dropdown box? > > > > Sorry about my ignorance, but I am new to using QTR. > > > > Thanks, > > Sheila > > > >