QTR-Quadtone RIP

Anyone got one they want to share?
Thanks,
Mark

I was never able to achieve good black and white results with any 
glossy papers from my 9600 and QTR. The color was always too brownish 
and the bronzing was  really bad. And, I really wanted it to work this 
way out of qtr and greyscale.

What I was able to do is use an RGB workflow without qtr and linearize 
using Print Fix Pro with the extened grey profiling process. It 
measures 720 color tones and then an additonal 240 "extended grey" 
patches to neutralize all the values. The final result was pretty nice, 
great dmax, and much more neutral and smooth compared to any greyscale 
workflow with the Epson K2 Ultrachromes and glossy media (K3 is a 
Totally different story and glossy papers function much much better all 
around). Even with the rgb process I still have to spray the prints 
with Premier Art spray to eliminate the remnants of gloss differential 
and bronzing of the shadows.There is a tiny bit of metamerism with 
using all the color inks too but with my profile it is very minimal.

So, no, no good curve for that paper with qtr and the 9600.

John


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "ctphoto1" <mark@...> wrote:

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> Anyone got one they want to share?
> Thanks,
> Mark
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I am getting pretty good results using the Photo Rag settings and I  
am even using MK. The after spray is a must to get rid of the severe  
bronzing. Just thought someone might have something better already in  
the can.
Mark

On Apr 12, 2007, at 1:58 PM, john dean wrote:

> I was never able to achieve good black and white results with any
> glossy papers from my 9600 and QTR. The color was always too brownish
> and the bronzing was  really bad. And, I really wanted it to work this
> way out of qtr and greyscale.
>
> What I was able to do is use an RGB workflow without qtr and linearize
> using Print Fix Pro with the extened grey profiling process. It
> measures 720 color tones and then an additonal 240 "extended grey"
> patches to neutralize all the values. The final result was pretty  
> nice,
> great dmax, and much more neutral and smooth compared to any greyscale
> workflow with the Epson K2 Ultrachromes and glossy media (K3 is a
> Totally different story and glossy papers function much much better  
> all
> around). Even with the rgb process I still have to spray the prints
> with Premier Art spray to eliminate the remnants of gloss differential
> and bronzing of the shadows.There is a tiny bit of metamerism with
> using all the color inks too but with my profile it is very minimal.
>
> So, no, no good curve for that paper with qtr and the 9600.
>
> John
>
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "ctphoto1" <mark@...> wrote:
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>> Anyone got one they want to share?
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
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Your kidding, your using MK with glossy fiber? I'll certainly try it.
It sure would be nice to avoid all the black changeover. Really....

john




--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:

>
> I am getting pretty good results using the Photo Rag settings and I  
> am even using MK. The after spray is a must to get rid of the severe  
> bronzing. Just thought someone might have something better already in  
> the can.
> Mark