QTR-Quadtone RIP

I got my pack of Harman FB Al and was very excited. Until I tried to 
create a curve for it. First impression - My x-rite 810 reads 100% 
black from QTR calibration printout at 2.42 vs. 1.89 on German Etching 
paper. The bad news, my cyan patch shows more density after 70% than 
black patch. Black shows more density before 70% mark. I am lost with 
that one. I also have a cartridge of Museum Black, maybe I should try 
to put that in and print. My previous custome curve creation for the 
same ink on German etching went normal, ink maxed out at 55%, but with 
Harman, I can clearly see ink not maxing till 65 - 70%
Any Ideas or experience?
Thank you,
sergey Zlotnikov

high pigment load inks designed for coated matte surfaces are not
going to work on a glossy surface. You'll beed a PK system for that paper.
Tyler

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Sergey Zlotnikov"
<szlotnikov@...> wrote:

>
> I got my pack of Harman FB Al and was very excited. Until I tried to 
> create a curve for it. First impression - My x-rite 810 reads 100% 
> black from QTR calibration printout at 2.42 vs. 1.89 on German Etching 
> paper. The bad news, my cyan patch shows more density after 70% than 
> black patch. Black shows more density before 70% mark. I am lost with 
> that one. I also have a cartridge of Museum Black, maybe I should try 
> to put that in and print. My previous custome curve creation for the 
> same ink on German etching went normal, ink maxed out at 55%, but with 
> Harman, I can clearly see ink not maxing till 65 - 70%
> Any Ideas or experience?
> Thank you,
> sergey Zlotnikov
>

The Harman paper takes a photo black ink not a matte ink.  The current K6 inks
aren't compatible.  They have some new inks that will work.

Roy

On 11/2/07, Sergey Zlotnikov <szlotnikov@...> wrote:
> I got my pack of Harman FB Al and was very excited. Until I tried to
> create a curve for it. First impression - My x-rite 810 reads 100%
> black from QTR calibration printout at 2.42 vs. 1.89 on German Etching
> paper. The bad news, my cyan patch shows more density after 70% than
> black patch. Black shows more density before 70% mark. I am lost with
> that one. I also have a cartridge of Museum Black, maybe I should try
> to put that in and print. My previous custome curve creation for the
> same ink on German etching went normal, ink maxed out at 55%, but with
> Harman, I can clearly see ink not maxing till 65 - 70%
> Any Ideas or experience?
> Thank you,
> sergey Zlotnikov
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>

Thank you for the reply. Do you know of the type of Cone ink that 
would be compatible with Harman paper and run on 7000 or 4800?

Thank you again, 
Sergey Zlotnikov

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:
>
> The Harman paper takes a photo black ink not a matte ink.  The 
current K6 inks
> aren't compatible.  They have some new inks that will work.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On 11/2/07, Sergey Zlotnikov <szlotnikov@...> wrote:
> > I got my pack of Harman FB Al and was very excited. Until I tried 
to
> > create a curve for it. First impression - My x-rite 810 reads 100%
> > black from QTR calibration printout at 2.42 vs. 1.89 on German 
Etching
> > paper. The bad news, my cyan patch shows more density after 70% 
than
> > black patch. Black shows more density before 70% mark. I am lost 
with
> > that one. I also have a cartridge of Museum Black, maybe I should 
try
> > to put that in and print. My previous custome curve creation for 
the
> > same ink on German etching went normal, ink maxed out at 55%, but 
with

> > Harman, I can clearly see ink not maxing till 65 - 70%
> > Any Ideas or experience?
> > Thank you,
> > sergey Zlotnikov
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

They have recently inroduced some Selenium toned K7 inks - I think they call
them "MPS" - which will, with the addition of a gloss enhancer, work with
gloss and semi-gloss papers.  They haven't released the gloss enhancer yet
though and I doubt whether the full set will be made available for the
7000 - that may change however with Epson recent actions which may make the
older printers more sought after.  I believe that other shades are due to
follow after the selenium.  Why not check with InkjetMall?

David Whistance