QTR-Quadtone RIP

Just began using Quadtone RIP for EP 2200 and really like the prints. However, i don't 
understand how to preveiw the results of the curves ... it seems like shooting/printing in the 
dark as i'll only know the results after i print it and, if i like the results and return to the 
curves set-up, its all back to the default setting. Yes, i know i can save the setting before 
printing but i've no way of knowing if i want to save them before i see the results and, by 
then, its too late.

Is there a way to preview your curve setting's effects on the image before printing?

Thank you,

-taiyo

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "taiyolipscomb" <taiyo@...> wrote:
>
I am having the same problem using the Epson 2200. I set the curves with the  Epson 
Enhanced Matte profile (as Hanamuehle Photorag doesn't show up there!). I use the split-
tone option  with warm and sepia and I like the results but I don't see anyway to preview it. 
In "print with preview" I am setting it as "Same as Source" which is "Dot gain 20%"- or 
should I set it for QTR Matte? Would that make a difference? Is there also anyway to get a 
photorag profile to show up??

Thanks,
Alice 



> Just began using Quadtone RIP for EP 2200 and really like the prints. However, i don't 
> understand how to preveiw the results of the curves ... it seems like shooting/printing in 
the 
> dark as i'll only know the results after i print it and, if i like the results and return to the 
> curves set-up, its all back to the default setting. Yes, i know i can save the setting 
before 
> printing but i've no way of knowing if i want to save them before i see the results and, 
by 

> then, its too late.
> 
> Is there a way to preview your curve setting's effects on the image before printing?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -taiyo
>

The standard ICC softproofing does not have any notion of blending
sliders.  So there's
basically no way to "preview" the blending sliders.  (also these are
part of the driver not
something visible to Photoshop).

So you need to  make several small test prints to see the tones and
pick what you like.
In general I spend some time deciding the slider values I like, then
save them in a Preset
so I can use them over and over again.

Roy

On Nov 19, 2007 8:04 AM, dddinah311 <aliceag@...> wrote:
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "taiyolipscomb" <taiyo@...> wrote:
> >
> I am having the same problem using the Epson 2200. I set the curves with the  Epson
> Enhanced Matte profile (as Hanamuehle Photorag doesn't show up there!). I use the split-
> tone option  with warm and sepia and I like the results but I don't see anyway to preview it.
> In "print with preview" I am setting it as "Same as Source" which is "Dot gain 20%"- or
> should I set it for QTR Matte? Would that make a difference? Is there also anyway to get a
> photorag profile to show up??
>
> Thanks,
> Alice
>
>
>
>
> > Just began using Quadtone RIP for EP 2200 and really like the prints. However, i don't
> > understand how to preveiw the results of the curves ... it seems like shooting/printing in
> the
> > dark as i'll only know the results after i print it and, if i like the results and return to the
> > curves set-up, its all back to the default setting. Yes, i know i can save the setting
> before
> > printing but i've no way of knowing if i want to save them before i see the results and,
> by
> > then, its too late.
> >
> > Is there a way to preview your curve setting's effects on the image before printing?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > -taiyo
> >
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Thank you Roy,

I suspected it was a matter of testing and saving Presets but hoping for a simpler system; 
still, i'm happy to have such a RIP and thank you for your efforts and support.

-Taiyo


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:
>
> The standard ICC softproofing does not have any notion of blending
> sliders.  So there's
> basically no way to "preview" the blending sliders.  (also these are
> part of the driver not
> something visible to Photoshop).
> 
> So you need to  make several small test prints to see the tones and
> pick what you like.
> In general I spend some time deciding the slider values I like, then
> save them in a Preset
> so I can use them over and over again.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Nov 19, 2007 8:04 AM, dddinah311 <aliceag@...> wrote:
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "taiyolipscomb" <taiyo@> wrote:
> > >
> > I am having the same problem using the Epson 2200. I set the curves with the  Epson
> > Enhanced Matte profile (as Hanamuehle Photorag doesn't show up there!). I use the 
split-
> > tone option  with warm and sepia and I like the results but I don't see anyway to 
preview it.
> > In "print with preview" I am setting it as "Same as Source" which is "Dot gain 20%"- or
> > should I set it for QTR Matte? Would that make a difference? Is there also anyway to 
get a
> > photorag profile to show up??
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alice
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Just began using Quadtone RIP for EP 2200 and really like the prints. However, i 
don't
> > > understand how to preveiw the results of the curves ... it seems like shooting/
printing in
> > the
> > > dark as i'll only know the results after i print it and, if i like the results and return to 
the
> > > curves set-up, its all back to the default setting. Yes, i know i can save the setting
> > before
> > > printing but i've no way of knowing if i want to save them before i see the results 
and,

> > by
> > > then, its too late.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to preview your curve setting's effects on the image before printing?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > -taiyo
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Thank you Roy. It makes sense now!
Alice

On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Roy Harrington wrote:

> The standard ICC softproofing does not have any notion of blending
>  sliders. So there's
>  basically no way to "preview" the blending sliders. (also these are
>  part of the driver not
>  something visible to Photoshop).
>
>  So you need to make several small test prints to see the tones and
>  pick what you like.
>  In general I spend some time deciding the slider values I like, then
>  save them in a Preset
>  so I can use them over and over again.
>
>  Roy
>
>  On Nov 19, 2007 8:04 AM, dddinah311 <aliceag@...> wrote:
>  > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "taiyolipscomb" <taiyo@...> 
> wrote:
>  > >
>  > I am having the same problem using the Epson 2200. I set the curves 
> with the Epson
>  > Enhanced Matte profile (as Hanamuehle Photorag doesn't show up 
> there!). I use the split-
>  > tone option with warm and sepia and I like the results but I don't 
> see anyway to preview it.
>  > In "print with preview" I am setting it as "Same as Source" which 
> is "Dot gain 20%"- or
>  > should I set it for QTR Matte? Would that make a difference? Is 
> there also anyway to get a
>  > photorag profile to show up??
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Alice
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > > Just began using Quadtone RIP for EP 2200 and really like the 
> prints. However, i don't
>  > > understand how to preveiw the results of the curves ... it seems 
> like shooting/printing in
>  > the
>  > > dark as i'll only know the results after i print it and, if i 
> like the results and return to the
>  > > curves set-up, its all back to the default setting. Yes, i know i 
> can save the setting
>  > before
>  > > printing but i've no way of knowing if i want to save them before 
> i see the results and,
>  > by
>  > > then, its too late.
>  > >
>  > > Is there a way to preview your curve setting's effects on the 
> image before printing?
>  > >
>  > > Thank you,
>  > >
>  > > -taiyo
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Yahoo! Groups Links
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  
>     

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