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HELP! Trouble creating curve files

HELP! Trouble creating curve files

2009-01-28 by Randy Rancier

Getting message "Could not find PPD file for Quad1400-MIS"  when trying to create curve 
files.  Just started using it this week.  I feel like I'm on the home stretch but can get past this.  
I'm not sure what PPD files are?  I didn't see any of these files when I downloaded the 
program.  If I can get this thing to work I'll gladly pay the $50 fee.  I've read all of the 
documentation that I can find for the program; it's been somewhat of a struggle but I feel I'm 
making a lot of headway.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Randy

Re: [QuadtoneRIP] HELP! Trouble creating curve files

2009-01-28 by Roy Harrington

Hi Randy,

Is this PC or Mac?  And what program/command are you getting the error from?
Also the latest version is 2.6.2.

Roy

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Randy Rancier
<randy_rancier2004@...> wrote:
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> Getting message "Could not find PPD file for Quad1400-MIS"  when trying to create curve
> files.  Just started using it this week.  I feel like I'm on the home stretch but can get past this.
> I'm not sure what PPD files are?  I didn't see any of these files when I downloaded the
> program.  If I can get this thing to work I'll gladly pay the $50 fee.  I've read all of the
> documentation that I can find for the program; it's been somewhat of a struggle but I feel I'm
> making a lot of headway.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
> Randy
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Re: HELP! Trouble creating curve files

2009-01-28 by Randy Rancier

It is the latest version and I'm using a Mac 10.4.11.  I'm getting this message when I drag 
the txt file into the Drop_Quad_Profile.app

I appreciate you help,
Randy


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Randy,
> 
> Is this PC or Mac?  And what program/command are you getting the error from?
> Also the latest version is 2.6.2.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Randy Rancier
> <randy_rancier2004@...> wrote:
> > Getting message "Could not find PPD file for Quad1400-MIS"  when trying to create 
curve
> > files.  Just started using it this week.  I feel like I'm on the home stretch but can get 
past this.
> > I'm not sure what PPD files are?  I didn't see any of these files when I downloaded the
> > program.  If I can get this thing to work I'll gladly pay the $50 fee.  I've read all of the
> > documentation that I can find for the program; it's been somewhat of a struggle but I 
feel I'm
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> > making a lot of headway.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help!
> > Randy
> >
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
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Re: HELP! Trouble creating curve files

2009-01-28 by robert49brake

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Rancier" <randy_rancier2004@...> wrote:
>
> It is the latest version and I'm using a Mac 10.4.11.  I'm getting this message when I drag 
> the txt file into the Drop_Quad_Profile.app
> 

Randy, double check that you have QTR 2.6.2 then go to the Profiles folder.  The procedure for installing curves has changed.  In the Profiles folder you 
will find three sub folders for the 1400.  One CL for Claria inks, one K6 for piezography and one MIS which is probably for one of Paul Roark's inksets.  
Whichever inkset you are using drag your text file into that folder then double click on the Install R1400 xxx command file that is also located in that 
folder and the new txt file will be installed. (that replaces the drag and drop into the the old Quad program)  A small terminal window will open and 
show you the curves installed as well as give you an error message if there is something wrong with the text file.  If Photoshop is running you will have to 
restart it for the new curve to show up in PS.

Re: HELP! Trouble creating curve files

2009-01-28 by Randy Rancier

I'm not sure how you check to see what version you are running, but I'm sure I downloaded 
QTR 2.6.2 and that must be what I have since I have the install files in with each of the 
Profile folders.

I tried it and it ran.  Question:  where does it place the xxx.quad files???  I did a search and 
could not find them.  It looks like it got installed correctly though since it is showing up 
under the "Curves" dialog box in QTR.  I remember doing this when I installed some other 
curves I had downloaded, but I thought the intermediate process before linearization was 
different when creating curves.

So after I linearize the file and curve does the install routine update and overwrite the old 
curve or should I rename the file to something different, or should I go in and delete the 
old one some how before doing the final install???

Thanks so much for your help, it is kind of confusing when all of the instructions tell you 
one thing and you're supposed to do another.

Randy


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "robert49brake" <robert49brake@...> wrote:
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Rancier" <randy_rancier2004@> wrote:
> >
> > It is the latest version and I'm using a Mac 10.4.11.  I'm getting this message when I 
drag 
> > the txt file into the Drop_Quad_Profile.app
> > 
> 
> Randy, double check that you have QTR 2.6.2 then go to the Profiles folder.  The 
procedure for installing curves has changed.  In the Profiles folder you 
> will find three sub folders for the 1400.  One CL for Claria inks, one K6 for piezography 
and one MIS which is probably for one of Paul Roark's inksets.  
> Whichever inkset you are using drag your text file into that folder then double click on 
the Install R1400 xxx command file that is also located in that 
> folder and the new txt file will be installed. (that replaces the drag and drop into the the 
old Quad program)  A small terminal window will open and 
> show you the curves installed as well as give you an error message if there is something 
wrong with the text file.  If Photoshop is running you will have to 
> restart it for the new curve to show up in PS.
>

Re: HELP! Trouble creating curve files

2009-01-28 by robert49brake

> I tried it and it ran.  Question:  where does it place the xxx.quad files???  

Mac HD/Library/Printers/QTR/Quadtone/Your Printer (Quadxxxx)  There you will find the name of your txt file but with a .quad extension.  Double clicking that 
file will open up a graphical version of the curves in QTR-CurveView--very helpful when visualizing curve adjustments.  

.  It looks like it got installed correctly though since it is showing up 
> under the "Curves" dialog box in QTR.  I remember doing this when I installed some other 
> curves I had downloaded, but I thought the intermediate process before linearization was 
> different when creating curves.

It sounds as if you do have 2.6.2 installed.  If you save the new linearized file with the same name as the original it will overwrite the text file.  I personally label 
the Linerarized file as well as all iterations of the curve until I am completely done with the curve, then go back and erase all the old versions.


> Thanks so much for your help, it is kind of confusing when all of the instructions tell you 
> one thing and you're supposed to do another.

One of the problems with the archiving capabilities of the web is nothing gets deleted.

There are many outdated tutorials and other bits floating around the internet and Google will find them all.  Roy's Mac tutorial that accompanies the current 
version of QTR is the best to use with OS X for the basic usage of QTR as a b&w RIP for existing printer/inkset/paper combinations that have already been 
profiled.  

If you want to profile new papers on existing printer/inksets, Tom Moore's latest Windows tutorial will provide another level of usage--that of curve creation but 
you will have to translate that info to the Mac format.  Not particularly difficult once you get the hang of it.

If you want to go all out and profile new papers with custom inksets you are jumping to a third level where the info is around but has not been catalogued.  Using 
the search function within this forum is very, very helpful.  For techniques older than a few years you can search DigitalB&Wtheprint, where much information also 
lies from before this forum was created.  

Jumping straight into curve creation can be a bit of a roller coaster ride.  I'd recommend getting some papers that have already been profiled for your 
printer/inkset and work with them a while until you start to get the hang of it, then work on profiling a similar paper to one that has already been profiled.

Put away all the tutorials except for Roy's and Tom's newest and work there until you are comfortable.

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.