QTR-Quadtone RIP

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM, frankg_photo <frankgross@...> wrote:
> I just printed with QTR, 2200, UC on GoldFibreSilk and although the
> print is pretty good (I'll reserve judgement until the morning when
> it's dry), I did notice that when I angle the print to the light
> source, it has a "solarized" appearance. I don't know if it's
> characteristic of the paper, or ink, or curves. I don't quite know how
> to explain it, and it would be impossible to post a jpeg showing it.
> Do you know how I can correct this ?
>
> Thank you,
> Frank
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>

> respect (but that doesn't help the 2200).
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM, frankg_photo <frankgross@...> wrote:
> > I just printed with QTR, 2200, UC on GoldFibreSilk and although the
> > print is pretty good (I'll reserve judgement until the morning when
> > it's dry), I did notice that when I angle the print to the light
> > source, it has a "solarized" appearance. I don't know if it's
> > characteristic of the paper, or ink, or curves. I don't quite know how
> > to explain it, and it would be impossible to post a jpeg showing it.
> > Do you know how I can correct this ?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: frankg_photo 
  To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:21 AM
  Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: "Solarized" appearance ?


  I don't see a bronze tone & don't know if it's what you call
  'bronzing' or not ? 

  It is most evident at the edges where dark & light tones meet.

  You say that it is inherent with this printer/inkset (2200, photo
  black & light black) & All the gloss/semi-gloss papers ?

  Now it makes sense why there aren't profiles around for this
  combination, darn :-(

  What sprays are recommended ?

  Looks like I have to start saving to upgrade to a better inkset/printer

  thanks,
  Frank

  --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
  >
  > It sounds to me like you are seeing what is often called "bronzing".
  > Unfortunately this is a function of the ink on photo paper (rather
  than matte).
  > The original UltraChrome inks typically do this. Some people spray the
  > prints and I've heard that helps. This is the main reason there
  aren't many
  > photo paper profiles. BTW, the newer UC-K3 inks are much better in
  this
  > respect (but that doesn't help the 2200).
  > 
  > Roy
  > 
  > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM, frankg_photo <frankgross@...> wrote:
  > > I just printed with QTR, 2200, UC on GoldFibreSilk and although the
  > > print is pretty good (I'll reserve judgement until the morning when
  > > it's dry), I did notice that when I angle the print to the light
  > > source, it has a "solarized" appearance. I don't know if it's
  > > characteristic of the paper, or ink, or curves. I don't quite know how
  > > to explain it, and it would be impossible to post a jpeg showing it.
  > > Do you know how I can correct this ?
  > >
  > > Thank you,
  > > Frank
  > >
  > >
  > > ------------------------------------
  > >
  > > Yahoo! Groups Links
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  >



   

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>   > > Do you know how I can correct this ?
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>   > > Thank you,
>   > > Frank
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>   > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: frankg_photo 
  To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:34 AM
  Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: "Solarized" appearance ?


  Thanks Eddie,
  I'll pick up a can of PREMIERE ART SHIELD and try it. Just a light
  even spray once over the print ?

  I really wanted to try out one of the "newer" baryta papers and the
  Ilford GFS seemed the best quality/value. I was very disappointed to
  get this so called 'bronzing' effect. 

  From what i understand I will get this from Any gloss or semi-gloss
  paper although I haven't noticed it before. I have printed on Epson
  Premium Gloss and Ilford Pearl

  Thanks,
  Frank

  --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Eddie Wiseman" <pahts@...> wrote:
  >
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > If I may "jump-in"..
  > ILFORD Gold Fibre Silk is a GREAT paper, but more susceptable to
  this bronzing..The spray that I use, and which is recommended by
  WILHEIM is PREMIERE ART SHIELD and is a lacquer-based finish which
  will not only minimize the bronzing effect, but will protect your
  print from moisture , uv light, and prolong the life of your print by
  a large factor, without changing the gloss levele of your print..About
  $13-15/ can and available from vendors such as IT supplies, and
  ATLEX.com..It can be used on any paper from MATTE to GLOSSY..
  > Just my 2 cents!
  > 
  > Eddie
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: frankg_photo 
  > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:21 AM
  > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: "Solarized" appearance ?
  > 
  > 
  > I don't see a bronze tone & don't know if it's what you call
  > 'bronzing' or not ? 
  > 
  > It is most evident at the edges where dark & light tones meet.
  > 
  > You say that it is inherent with this printer/inkset (2200, photo
  > black & light black) & All the gloss/semi-gloss papers ?
  > 
  > Now it makes sense why there aren't profiles around for this
  > combination, darn :-(
  > 
  > What sprays are recommended ?
  > 
  > Looks like I have to start saving to upgrade to a better
  inkset/printer
  > 
  > thanks,
  > Frank
  > 
  > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@> wrote:
  > >
  > > It sounds to me like you are seeing what is often called "bronzing".
  > > Unfortunately this is a function of the ink on photo paper (rather
  > than matte).
  > > The original UltraChrome inks typically do this. Some people
  spray the
  > > prints and I've heard that helps. This is the main reason there
  > aren't many
  > > photo paper profiles. BTW, the newer UC-K3 inks are much better in
  > this
  > > respect (but that doesn't help the 2200).
  > > 
  > > Roy
  > > 
  > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM, frankg_photo <frankgross@> wrote:
  > > > I just printed with QTR, 2200, UC on GoldFibreSilk and
  although the
  > > > print is pretty good (I'll reserve judgement until the morning
  when
  > > > it's dry), I did notice that when I angle the print to the light
  > > > source, it has a "solarized" appearance. I don't know if it's
  > > > characteristic of the paper, or ink, or curves. I don't quite
  know how
  > > > to explain it, and it would be impossible to post a jpeg
  showing it.
  > > > Do you know how I can correct this ?
  > > >
  > > > Thank you,
  > > > Frank
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > ------------------------------------
  > > >
  > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > >
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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>
> I just printed with QTR, 2200, UC on GoldFibreSilk and although the
> print is pretty good (I'll reserve judgement until the morning when
> it's dry), I did notice that when I angle the print to the light
> source, it has a "solarized" appearance. I don't know if it's
> characteristic of the paper, or ink, or curves. I don't quite know how
> to explain it, and it would be impossible to post a jpeg showing it.
> Do you know how I can correct this ?
> 
> Thank you,
> Frank
>

>
> Just for kicks, try the 2200's "Black Only" setting (rather than using
> QTR) on that GoldFibre Silk. Just print directly from the color file
> (if you have one), don't even convert to B&W.
> 
> 2200 UC OEM Black Only does print with little or no bronzing or gloss
> differential on certain papers (eg Costco Kirkland, last time i
> tried), though Epson's black is reddish (not necessarily unattractive
> and you do get a grainy look on small prints. 
>