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CURVES

2005-08-27 by Peter Mc Mahon

Stephen,
yes to all.
I ended up deleting what I had done and started again. The following is 
what I am doing, see if you can see what the problem may be.

I have dual monitors, so opened unzipped text curves ex Carl, so I can 
see and confirm what I am transferring. The following are the named four 
curves.
._UC-IlfordSmPearl-neutralcolour.txt
._UC-IlfordSmPearl-Sepia.txt
._UC-IlfordSmPearl-Sepia2.txt
._UC-IlfordSmPearl-Warm.txt
Open QTR, open "Curve Creation"  File/open from the Quad 2400 folder ex 
Carl selected the first curve -neutral, entered into "File Name" , "File 
Type Ink Descriptor etc. clicked open.
Curve Creator showed on top bar the named neutral curve/ clicked create 
curve/graphs show for neutral curve etc.
I assume that the creation has now been made, as the named curve shows 
in the curves box in QTR. so click x to exit  curves box.
I then repeat the operation for the next three, and they all show as loaded.
So, why are all the 4 curves showing the same curve when you right click 
them? am I not completing the exercise correctly?
thanks for being patient.
regards,
Peter.

Message: 14        
   Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:48:45 -0700
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   From: "Stephen Billard" <sbillard@...>
Subject: RE: profiles

Are all the curves you right click on the same? You might check the file
creation dates. The curves supplied in the install should be dated earlier than
the ones you created. You did make sure the file names of the new curves were
different, didn't you?
 
 
-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen

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Of Peter Mc Mahon
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:20 PM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] profiles


Carl & Stephen thanks.
Stephen,
did as you said and they installed. However, I ran a test print with a 
sepia curve, slightly dark, but should be ok with small adjustment. Ran 
a second print with another curve, cool this time. Image printed exactly 
the same as the first, sepia.I right clicked all the curves[4] to check 
and the four curves are all  the same.
Your help would be appreciated, as to where I may have gone wrong.
regards,
Peter.


Message: 5         
   Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:33:48 -0700
   From: "Stephen Billard" <sbillard@...>
Subject: RE: 2400 ILFORD PROFILES

Open them in the Curve Creator part of the application and press the Create
Curve button.


-Stephen
www.sbillard.org/Stephen

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] CURVES

2005-08-27 by Stephen Billard

There are a couple of possibilities I can think of. 
 
First, the difference in curves may be subtle. I have enhanced QTRgui so that
you can view the graphs for curve 1 and curve 2 at the same time. Download the
beta version 2.3.3 from www.sbillard.org/Shareware/QTRgui.htm.
 
Second, maybe there is no difference in the curve descriptor files. I don't have
these curves, but if you e-mail me the zip files I will take a look at them.
 
 
-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen
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From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Mc Mahon
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:37 PM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] CURVES


Stephen,
yes to all.
I ended up deleting what I had done and started again. The following is 
what I am doing, see if you can see what the problem may be.

I have dual monitors, so opened unzipped text curves ex Carl, so I can 
see and confirm what I am transferring. The following are the named four 
curves.
._UC-IlfordSmPearl-neutralcolour.txt
._UC-IlfordSmPearl-Sepia.txt
._UC-IlfordSmPearl-Sepia2.txt
._UC-IlfordSmPearl-Warm.txt
Open QTR, open "Curve Creation"  File/open from the Quad 2400 folder ex 
Carl selected the first curve -neutral, entered into "File Name" , "File 
Type Ink Descriptor etc. clicked open.
Curve Creator showed on top bar the named neutral curve/ clicked create 
curve/graphs show for neutral curve etc.
I assume that the creation has now been made, as the named curve shows 
in the curves box in QTR. so click x to exit  curves box.
I then repeat the operation for the next three, and they all show as loaded.
So, why are all the 4 curves showing the same curve when you right click 
them? am I not completing the exercise correctly?
thanks for being patient.
regards,
Peter.

Message: 14        
   Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:48:45 -0700
   From: "Stephen Billard" <sbillard@...>
Subject: RE: profiles

Are all the curves you right click on the same? You might check the file
creation dates. The curves supplied in the install should be dated earlier than
the ones you created. You did make sure the file names of the new curves were
different, didn't you?


-Stephen
www.sbillard.org/Stephen

-----Original Message-----
From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Mc Mahon
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:20 PM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] profiles


Carl & Stephen thanks.
Stephen,
did as you said and they installed. However, I ran a test print with a 
sepia curve, slightly dark, but should be ok with small adjustment. Ran 
a second print with another curve, cool this time. Image printed exactly 
the same as the first, sepia.I right clicked all the curves[4] to check 
and the four curves are all  the same.
Your help would be appreciated, as to where I may have gone wrong.
regards,
Peter.


Message: 5         
   Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:33:48 -0700
   From: "Stephen Billard" <sbillard@...>
Subject: RE: 2400 ILFORD PROFILES

Open them in the Curve Creator part of the application and press the Create
Curve button.


-Stephen
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Re: CURVES

2005-08-27 by Jamie

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Billard" 
<sbillard@s...> wrote:
There are a couple of possibilities I can think of. 
First, the difference in curves may be subtle. I have enhanced 
QTRgui so that you can view the graphs for curve 1 and curve 2 at 
the same time. Download the beta version 2.3.3 from 
www.sbillard.org/Shareware/QTRgui.htm. Second, maybe there is no 
difference in the curve descriptor files. I don't have these curves, 
but if you e-mail me the zip files I will take a look at them.

Stephen
www.sbillard.org/Stephen

-------------------------------------------------------

from Jamie Creed:

being new to QTR thought I better check out about updating things. 
Noticed your in your message above that beta 2.3.3 is available 
(1.24MB) do I simple install it over the top of version 2.3 I'm 
using at the moment? why is the new version beta 2.3.3 only 1.24MB 
as apposed to Roy's setup file of 5MB? Just got thinks working great 
and don't want to risk doing something the wrong way know,

regards, Jamie

RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: CURVES

2005-08-27 by Stephen Billard

This is a beta of the GUI only. You install it over top of the full QTR 2.3 from
Roy.
 
 
-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen
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Of Jamie
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 11:08 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: CURVES


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Billard" 
<sbillard@s...> wrote:
There are a couple of possibilities I can think of. 
First, the difference in curves may be subtle. I have enhanced 
QTRgui so that you can view the graphs for curve 1 and curve 2 at 
the same time. Download the beta version 2.3.3 from 
www.sbillard.org/Shareware/QTRgui.htm. Second, maybe there is no 
difference in the curve descriptor files. I don't have these curves, 
but if you e-mail me the zip files I will take a look at them.

Stephen
www.sbillard.org/Stephen

-------------------------------------------------------

from Jamie Creed:

being new to QTR thought I better check out about updating things. 
Noticed your in your message above that beta 2.3.3 is available 
(1.24MB) do I simple install it over the top of version 2.3 I'm 
using at the moment? why is the new version beta 2.3.3 only 1.24MB 
as apposed to Roy's setup file of 5MB? Just got thinks working great 
and don't want to risk doing something the wrong way know,

regards, Jamie





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Re: CURVES

2005-08-27 by Jamie

Just installed beta QTRgui 2.3.3 which went smoothly but know I am 
having troule opening descriptor files, getting desciptor file 
errors. Have managed to open a couple of files (even though the 
error window popped up) and resaved them, but can't open the 
majority of them; any ideas?

regards, Jamie


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Billard" 
<sbillard@s...> wrote:
> This is a beta of the GUI only. You install it over top of the 
full QTR 2.3 from
> Roy.
>  
>  
> -Stephen
>  www.sbillard.org/Stephen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jamie
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 11:08 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: CURVES
> 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Billard" 
> <sbillard@s...> wrote:
> There are a couple of possibilities I can think of. 
> First, the difference in curves may be subtle. I have enhanced 
> QTRgui so that you can view the graphs for curve 1 and curve 2 at 
> the same time. Download the beta version 2.3.3 from 
> www.sbillard.org/Shareware/QTRgui.htm. Second, maybe there is no 
> difference in the curve descriptor files. I don't have these 
curves, 
> but if you e-mail me the zip files I will take a look at them.
> 
> Stephen
> www.sbillard.org/Stephen
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> from Jamie Creed:
> 
> being new to QTR thought I better check out about updating things. 
> Noticed your in your message above that beta 2.3.3 is available 
> (1.24MB) do I simple install it over the top of version 2.3 I'm 
> using at the moment? why is the new version beta 2.3.3 only 1.24MB 
> as apposed to Roy's setup file of 5MB? Just got thinks working 
great 
> and don't want to risk doing something the wrong way know,
> 
> regards, Jamie
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: CURVES

2005-08-27 by Stephen Billard

What errors are you getting? 
 
These errors usually mean there are items in the descriptor files that are
incorrect or unsupported syntax. If there are fewer than 10 errors, the valid
information has been loaded. If more, then the file processing is aborted.
 
Best course of action is to send me the descriptor files (or tell me where to
download them) so I can take a look.
 
 
-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen
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From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jamie
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 11:37 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: CURVES


Just installed beta QTRgui 2.3.3 which went smoothly but know I am 
having troule opening descriptor files, getting desciptor file 
errors. Have managed to open a couple of files (even though the 
error window popped up) and resaved them, but can't open the 
majority of them; any ideas?

regards, Jamie


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Billard" 
<sbillard@s...> wrote:
> This is a beta of the GUI only. You install it over top of the 
full QTR 2.3 from
> Roy.
>  
>  
> -Stephen
>  www.sbillard.org/Stephen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jamie
> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 11:08 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: CURVES
> 
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Billard" 
> <sbillard@s...> wrote:
> There are a couple of possibilities I can think of. 
> First, the difference in curves may be subtle. I have enhanced 
> QTRgui so that you can view the graphs for curve 1 and curve 2 at 
> the same time. Download the beta version 2.3.3 from 
> www.sbillard.org/Shareware/QTRgui.htm. Second, maybe there is no 
> difference in the curve descriptor files. I don't have these 
curves, 
> but if you e-mail me the zip files I will take a look at them.
> 
> Stephen
> www.sbillard.org/Stephen
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
> from Jamie Creed:
> 
> being new to QTR thought I better check out about updating things. 
> Noticed your in your message above that beta 2.3.3 is available 
> (1.24MB) do I simple install it over the top of version 2.3 I'm 
> using at the moment? why is the new version beta 2.3.3 only 1.24MB 
> as apposed to Roy's setup file of 5MB? Just got thinks working 
great 
> and don't want to risk doing something the wrong way know,
> 
> regards, Jamie
> 
> 
> 
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