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2010-06-26 by arnnad
I've only been an occasional user of this program but have become more interested in trying Ilford GFS instead of matte papers. I'm I correct in thinking that the paper presets are simply profiles usable for any paper? In other words, one could simply try any named paper preset for any paper, mixing to taste? Thanks, Arnold
2010-06-29 by zonepeter
Basically that is correct. You would want to select a profile that uses the correct black ink. Generally, you would pick the paper that is closest to the one you are using. That should get you close. If you want to improve on that, frequently all you need to do is either relinearize or create an ICC profile for your combination. I've used the combination of GFS and QTR. It works well. --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "arnnad" <arnnad@...> wrote:
> > I've only been an occasional user of this program but have become more interested in trying Ilford GFS instead of matte papers. I'm I correct in thinking that the paper presets are simply profiles usable for any paper? In other words, one could simply try any named paper preset for any paper, mixing to taste? > > Thanks, Arnold >
2010-06-30 by Arnold
Thanks for you response. My challenge now is to get the same intensity or contrast I see on my monitor into the print. I'm trying to do this by overshooting on the monitor but it means I'm flying blind. I assume playing with different paper profile combinations will will have most effect on tint and least on contrast. Would creating an individual profile address this? I've read the QTR guide but didn't see a definition or explanation of what linearization achieves in a black/white image. If you have a good reference I'd appreciate the link. Thanks, Arnold
From: zonepeter Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:12 PM To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Basic ink profile question Basically that is correct. You would want to select a profile that uses the correct black ink. Generally, you would pick the paper that is closest to the one you are using. That should get you close. If you want to improve on that, frequently all you need to do is either relinearize or create an ICC profile for your combination. I've used the combination of GFS and QTR. It works well. --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "arnnad" <arnnad@...> wrote: > > I've only been an occasional user of this program but have become more interested in trying Ilford GFS instead of matte papers. I'm I correct in thinking that the paper presets are simply profiles usable for any paper? In other words, one could simply try any named paper preset for any paper, mixing to taste? > > Thanks, Arnold > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2010-07-01 by zonepeter
Sounds like a monitor calibration issue. This includes your viewing environment for the print as well. I think the tutorial by Amadou Diallo available from the QTR site is really good, as is Tom Moore's. Linearization basically smooths the tonal gradations from black to white. Creating an ICC profile kind of does the same thing in a different way and allows soft proofing. --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Arnold" <arnnad@...> wrote:
> > Thanks for you response. My challenge now is to get the same intensity or contrast I see on my monitor into the print. I'm trying to do this by overshooting on the monitor but it means I'm flying blind. I assume playing with different paper profile combinations will will have most effect on tint and least on contrast. > > Would creating an individual profile address this? I've read the QTR guide but didn't see a definition or explanation of what linearization achieves in a black/white image. If you have a good reference I'd appreciate the link. > > Thanks, Arnold > > > From: zonepeter > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:12 PM > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Basic ink profile question > > > > Basically that is correct. You would want to select a profile that uses the correct black ink. Generally, you would pick the paper that is closest to the one you are using. That should get you close. If you want to improve on that, frequently all you need to do is either relinearize or create an ICC profile for your combination. > I've used the combination of GFS and QTR. It works well. > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "arnnad" <arnnad@> wrote: > > > > I've only been an occasional user of this program but have become more interested in trying Ilford GFS instead of matte papers. I'm I correct in thinking that the paper presets are simply profiles usable for any paper? In other words, one could simply try any named paper preset for any paper, mixing to taste? > > > > Thanks, Arnold > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2010-07-01 by Arnold
I agree the problem is likely my monitor settings. I confirmed this after doing a color print and finding it a tad darker than it appeared on the monitor. Exactly the issue with the b/w print. I've calibrated the monitor but probably need to reduce the brightness a bit. I realize an image on the monitor is always going to appear relatively brighter because of projected light. Since the discrepancy is fairly subtle I know that any improvement will be incremental. Thanks again, Arnold
From: zonepeter Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:26 PM To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Basic ink profile question Sounds like a monitor calibration issue. This includes your viewing environment for the print as well. I think the tutorial by Amadou Diallo available from the QTR site is really good, as is Tom Moore's. Linearization basically smooths the tonal gradations from black to white. Creating an ICC profile kind of does the same thing in a different way and allows soft proofing. --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Arnold" <arnnad@...> wrote: > > Thanks for you response. My challenge now is to get the same intensity or contrast I see on my monitor into the print. I'm trying to do this by overshooting on the monitor but it means I'm flying blind. I assume playing with different paper profile combinations will will have most effect on tint and least on contrast. > > Would creating an individual profile address this? I've read the QTR guide but didn't see a definition or explanation of what linearization achieves in a black/white image. If you have a good reference I'd appreciate the link. > > Thanks, Arnold > > > From: zonepeter > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:12 PM > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Basic ink profile question > > > > Basically that is correct. You would want to select a profile that uses the correct black ink. Generally, you would pick the paper that is closest to the one you are using. That should get you close. If you want to improve on that, frequently all you need to do is either relinearize or create an ICC profile for your combination. > I've used the combination of GFS and QTR. It works well. > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "arnnad" <arnnad@> wrote: > > > > I've only been an occasional user of this program but have become more interested in trying Ilford GFS instead of matte papers. I'm I correct in thinking that the paper presets are simply profiles usable for any paper? In other words, one could simply try any named paper preset for any paper, mixing to taste? > > > > Thanks, Arnold > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]