QTR-Quadtone RIP

I currently have some Entrada Natural and I downloaded the curves but
does anyone have R200 curves for the Entrada Bright with Media
Street's Quad Black inkset? I've been thinking og getting some Entrada
Bright but  I do not having a densitometer.

Thanks,
Bill Karoly

I designed the QuadBlack ink set and developed the curves you have.

For the Entrada I only did the natural, not the Bright. But since the
only difference is the addition of the white brightener, I think you may
find the Natural curve will work ok.

Unfortunately, Roy Harrington's curve generating tools don't work with
the QuadBlack ink set; our ink set uses multiple channels with its cool
and warm inks to do some very sophisticated b&w balancing, and Roy's
tools can't generate our curves. 

So I had to build my own tools, but they are VERY user-unfriendly and
I'm only tolerating them myself. So even a densitometer probably
wouldn't make it straightforward for you to make a curve directly for
Entrada Bright.

best,
Richard Wolfson
Fine Art Photographer, Printmaker & Digital Imaging Consultant

> -----Original Message-----
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of billkaroly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:53 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] QTR - R200 and Entrada Bright curves?
> 
> I currently have some Entrada Natural and I downloaded the 
> curves but does anyone have R200 curves for the Entrada 
> Bright with Media Street's Quad Black inkset? I've been 
> thinking og getting some Entrada Bright but  I do not having 
> a densitometer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill Karoly

Richard
Might there be any "baseline" settings or profiles or whatever else I 
would need to get my R200, GQ Quad inks, and Entrada Natural 
producing even straight forward B&W images? 

Yesterday, my test print showed only grays, with no tone range at 
all. It looked more like a fax from many years ago, no blacks and no 
tone range, totally flat.

In the QTR "Curves Creator" screen it is set to printing 
model "QuadR200-GQ", 
Other settings are: Paper "Matte", 
Under "Curves" R220 Neutral with a blend of 50%. 
Resolution 2880dpi,
Dither "Adaptive",
Shadows and mid-tones both set in the middle at "0"

Can anyone tell me what I might change or where I could find 
the "curves" or "profiles" for the R200, GQ Quad inks entrada or a 
similar paper just to even establish a best baseline for this ink set 
and printer combination to get things moving. Sorry, but it has been 
a while.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wolfson" <rw@...> wrote:
>
> I designed the QuadBlack ink set and developed the curves you have.
> 
> For the Entrada I only did the natural, not the Bright. But since 
the
> only difference is the addition of the white brightener, I think 
you may
> find the Natural curve will work ok.
> 
> Unfortunately, Roy Harrington's curve generating tools don't work 
with
> the QuadBlack ink set; our ink set uses multiple channels with its 
cool
> and warm inks to do some very sophisticated b&w balancing, and Roy's
> tools can't generate our curves. 
> 
> So I had to build my own tools, but they are VERY user-unfriendly 
and
> I'm only tolerating them myself. So even a densitometer probably
> wouldn't make it straightforward for you to make a curve directly 
for

> Entrada Bright.
> 
> best,
> Richard Wolfson
> Fine Art Photographer, Printmaker & Digital Imaging Consultant
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
> > [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of billkaroly
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:53 AM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] QTR - R200 and Entrada Bright curves?
> > 
> > I currently have some Entrada Natural and I downloaded the 
> > curves but does anyone have R200 curves for the Entrada 
> > Bright with Media Street's Quad Black inkset? I've been 
> > thinking og getting some Entrada Bright but  I do not having 
> > a densitometer.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Bill Karoly
>