It's a bummer that the Serge Modular configurator is down and probably will remain so indefinately. It was an almost indispensible tool for laying out panels to see what makes logical sense. Sadly, that option is not available anymore. I'll post my panel sale once again so you can take a look. What is missing from you concept is any kind of goal or idea of what your trying to accomplish. Some folks just want to do audio processing and mangling of external sounds. Others just want to do huge pads and ambient textures. Still others like to make their sounds from CV only and yet other crazies like me tried to do a modular orchestra. All these approaches require different configurations and if you have a clear concept of what it is your trying to do, then panel layout and module choice become alot easier. Then again, you might just want one of everything to cover your ass!! LOL
Again, i stress the efficiency of shop panels when your just getting started. Get an Animal and either a Blue or Red fun station and play with them for six months to a year. After that you will have a more clear idea of what your customs should look like. And if you have to sell those shop panels, they will be gone in a flash. Where as if you do all customs and then realize to late that you'v made a serious or even not so serious miscalculation that needs to be changed, you will have a pretty tough time unloading custom panels that laid out according to some nebulous idea that you had at the time. Just ask me. I know!! LMAO!!!
Plus, i know for fact that most shop panels are presently in stock and ready for delivery. Your custom panels could, and probably will take quite some time.
kind regards
john duval
This is whats for sale. Payment by cashiers check only, drawn on a major american bank. Bank of America preferred.. If i don't know you, i will wait till the check clears your bank before i ship. All shipping is by USPS overnight express and is included in the purchase price. Pictures on request only if your serious about a purchase. Overseas sales are a hassle and you will be charged extra($100) for the customs paperwork and increased shipping.
7 Serge panels.
These include some panels that were offered last spring. prices have been lowered beyond reason
Panel#1
QVM / XFAD(2) / MIX2 / ADSR (2) / QUO(2) New$3555.00 Sell$1900.
Panel#2
ACPR / BUFF / VCFQX(2) / VCF2 / VCFS / MIX2 / EQ(2) New$3700.
Sell$1800.
Panel#3
VCF2 / VCFS(3) / VCFQX(3) / EQ New$3675.00
Sell $1700.
Panel#4
NTO / PCO(2) / VCM / TWS / XFAD(3) / MIX2 New$3390.
Sell $1800.00
Panel#5
CVI(2) / NCOM / STR(schmitt trigger) / QUO(4) New$2970.00
Sell $ 1500.00
Panel #6
SPRC / PRC / ACPR / QUO / CLK / BLOG / SQP4 New$3095.
Sell $1800. This is Blake Wilsons custom panel and i'm selling for the exact same price i paid for it 'cause it's worth it. He has added larger knobs to the frequency pots on the QUO and CLK. . . . very cool
Panel #7
2RVG / CLK / PRC / DSG (2) / QUO(2) New$3340.
Sell $2000. This panel comes with a Grateful Dead sticker on the left hand side of the panel. . . looks cool. . . . or not, depending on your viewpoint. Don't ask me to take it off. If you don't like it, you take it off.
Panels #1 and #3 are Wisconsin panels. All others are Oakland are late nineties. Excellent condition of course.
.... NOTE!!! the filter panels have been sold.
you know who you are. Thanks guys!!!
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Hi John,
Yes. I must refine and approach zen panel layout.
I stuck the CM in panel 1, cuz I wanted it, and I didn't have a place in one of the others,
but then I noticed I had it already. It makes no sense, I agree. Same for RS.
I agree I need more mixers and and certainly more ADSR.
I agree shop panels are well thought out, and have good resale value. I have to write some
kind of 'equivalency' program (like a module planner) to help me plan. Something that lets
me know 'if I get 1 animal, it gives me what %age of the modules I wanted, and what other
modules?'
A lot of this is just intellectual masturbation, as I haven't had hands-on serge time yet. A
guy in toronto (city next to me) has offered to let me come up this month, so I'll be doing
that in a week or so. That will give me infinitely more hands-on awareness of module
capability and patch feel, and clear up some of the mistakes i've made due to lack of
experience.
I like your other ideas and post a revised one up soon. This is fun :)
I spent quite a lot of time analyzing your for sale panel list. Since I'm not old hand with the
acronyms, I had to map everything out and put it in long forms, read up on the modules,
build little panel pictures (I was surprised that a lot of module graphics are not available
on serge-fans.com! -- e.g. cvi, str, xfad, vcf2, vcfqx). I wanted some sort of picture which
helps my visual processes work. Like, to your 'mixer' comment, I see your Panel 1 would
fit in well. Only thing is I was hoping to buy a panel that would let me start having fun
right away (again, I have to write the next-gen serge module planner program -- kind of
where you set a goal and it finds various ways to get you there with shop panels, used
panels, and misc). Sort of a decision tree planner.
Regards,
Paul
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, darkstr1746@c... wrote:
> I don't mean to bum your groove, but as someone who started out blindly knowing
nothing about modulars, and haveing learned the hard way about panel functionality, my
first and second reaction is that you should seriously go back to the drawing boards and
reconsider your panel layouts. There are several modules in each of your Serge layouts
that are completely misplaced while others would be served best by placing them
elsewhere. You have also duplicated some modules un-neccessarily. Just one example is
your placement of the CM (control module) CM, while it can be a stand alone, always goes
next to a FS because of the internal build layout of that module. So, the way you have
things laid out now, your going to wind up with two of them which is totaly redundant.
You have also almost completely ignored adequate mixing facilities which, considering the
number of audio sources in your layout, will be almost fatal to your system right from the
go.