SergeModular

--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com, darkstr1746@... wrote:

>
> The XFAD might not give you that hard quick "left/right" thing your looking for,
> if i'm reading you correctly. Same with the ACPR.

So you're saying they both have a slight lag to them, an audible "fade" between the two
input signals, no matter how steep the slope of the CV is?

> I like the TWS more than the VCM but that's just a matter of taste. You don't have that
> many OSC so i'm not sure why you would want more than one VCM, as just that one is
> capable of serious sonic damage all by itself.

I love the VCM, in fact I use it all by itself to generate feedback patterns etc. This way I'd
have two NTO/VCM pairs.

> Personally i found mixing and cross fading to be the heart of a good Serge system. . .
> this
> opinion is shared by Rex also. A couple of XFADs and a QUO with a DCM or the four
> channel mixer with a MIX2 is a good combo.

I agree. I have two mixers (one double, one single), a UAP and a DCSM, plus a Dual
Processor that I also use as an audio mixer if necessary.

> Also not sure how much bang for the buck your going to get from another RING.

Yeah, I suppose that's a personal favorite that most others wouldn't need two pieces of.

> The VCF2 was my favorite filter combined with the EQ. Again, you need good mixing
> capabilities to take advantage of the combination. Chris Sawyer did a wonderful little
> break down of the advantages of mixing and crossfading a few years back after i sold >

him

> a panel that had a matrix mixer and some XFADs and a few QUOs. He was rather

skeptical
but after just one week became a true believer.

> For my own taste i would add a couple of PDIVs and a couple ASRs.

I'll look at those

> That would make

the addition of a second RING more worth while. And while your at it, spend some serious
cash and have Rex modify the resonant points on the RING so that it sounds like a giant
cathedral bell. hahaha' But really, a RING with the right pitch on the carrier run through a
VCF2 and EQ can really give you a huge range to work with. I refer to the cathedral bell
sound i use on Sleepy Hollow from my disc Hells Canyon

> So put in a couple of PDIV(2)/ASR(2)/RING/VCF2/MIX2/XFAD/QUO/TWS/DCSM
> prepare to rock out.
> I had a Schmidt trigger at one time but could never get the hang of it.
> But in the end it all depends on what your trying to do.
> If your into straight ahead audio twisting/warping, then the above might tweak your

interest 'cause the SOUP is a great start already. Trade out the DCSM and TWS for that

> extra NTO and PRNV.

Right. So I think I have the MIX2/QUO/DCSM covered, will add a VCF2/TWS and I'll look at
your other suggestions, thanks!

> With what you have already you could put just about anthing together and it would be a

good compliment.

> jduval
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "matthew carpenter" <matfhew.carpenfer@...>
> Yeah, I like the Triple Waveshaper and Wave Multipliers, too. The EQ is brilliant, and the

VCF2, I've yet to form a more solid opinion on, and I have two Active Processors which I
use all the time. The NCOM is great, too, so many uses, and Rex called it a rock crusher,
once. I'll be getting another, and most of the lefthand side of a Soup Kitchen.

> But, should any of us consider a module that we wouldn't be able to get on a shop

panel, or in a practical combination with other modules? How about a Matrix Mixer, for
example? A Dual Schmitt Trigger? Does anyone have either?

>
>
> On 5/29/07, John P <johnp299792@...> wrote:
> It sounds like you know you what you want pretty well...
> just out of curiousity what makes you like the NTO?
>
> Also I think the Triple Waveshaper is 3 VC waveshapers like what you
> have in the NTO...
> taking a sawtooth to a sine or a pulse. It's been a while since I
> played with one but
> you can get all sorts of interesting stuff out of it... a great
> compliment to the VCM. You can feed just about anything into it (not
> just a sawtooth)... just plug shit in and hear what it does!
>
> riluttante wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > After receiving the news that STS will stop production of custom
> > panels on June 1st, I'm
> > quickly making up my mind about ordering a custom panel to round out
> > my current
> > system (Blue Voice, Blue CV, Soup Kitchen, TKB). I'd basically like to
> > get one additional
> > panel featuring some of my favorite modules so I have two of them,
> > plus some things that
> > aren't present in my current system. I'd really appreciate any
> > comments about this module
> > selection and the individual functionality, thanks!
> >
> > Here's what I had in mind:
> >
> > Preamp Detector PRNV 1"
> > I have one at the moment, but use stereo input signals a lot. Also,
> > I'd like to plug both a
> > guitar and a microphone into the system simultaneously, and having two
> > PRNV's would
> > mean I can do this without bringing a mixing desk along.
> >
> > New Timbral Oscillator NTO 3"
> > An obvious addition: I love the NTO, and my current four-panel system
> > has only one
> >
> > Ring Modulator RING 1"
> > Present in the current system, but used so much in so many ways that
> > I'd like a second
> > one
> >
> > Wave Multiplier VCM 2"
> > again: Present in the current system, but used so much in so many ways
> > that I'd like a
> > second one
> >
> > Triple Waveshaper TWS 2"
> > This one I'm not so sure of. I'd love feedback from some other users
> > as to how versatile
> > these are for audio processing. All the catalogue says is that it "can
> > transform a sawtooth
> > wave into a sine wave", or something equally unspectacular. What else
> > does this do? How
> > does it sound on external audio?
> >
> > Variable Bandwidth Filter VCF2 2"
> > I'm curious about this one. With the VCF2 added I'd have one of every
> > filter in my system
> > (considering the VCFQ and the VCFQX are essentially the same, I have
> > the latter)
> >
> > Resonant Equalizer EQ 2"
> > again: I'd like a second one, I use this in almost every patch
> >
> > X Fader XFAD 1"
> > Another one I'd love to hear some comments on. I have a UAP, which can
> > be used as a
> > crossfader, but I've noticed a slew/glide in its response. In other
> > words, when I want to
> > quickly switch (rather than fade smoothly) between two signals, the
> > response isn't quick
> > enough. The question is whether the XFAD can do real instantaneous
> > "jump-cuts" between
> > two signals without a noticeable glide, with the right CV applied (a
> > gate from the TKB or a
> > slow square wave, for example).
> >
> > Active Processor AP 1"
> > What exactly sets the AP apart from the XFAD? Does the Active
> > Processor allow for
> > instantaneous, lag-free, jump-cuts between the two input signals?
> > If the XFAD and AP have a similar lag/slew in the crossfade transition
> > as the UAP, I might
> > ask Rex if he can make me a Triple Voltage Controlled Switch instead,
> > which was dropped
> > from the catalogue at some point, mostly because of clicks in the
> > audio during the
> > switching.
> >
> > ÷N Comparator NCOM 1"
> > Seems like a good idea, for PWM and audio division, among other things
> >
> > Total: 16"
> >
> > Thanks for any input about the selection/layout!
> > Thomas
> >
> >
>
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