Yulian,
i'm not talking about a fixed midi latency
- Try this experiment:
Program a midi sequence in Logic containing equal-length notes. ( say
1/16th long on each 1/8th )
send the midi info to a synth or drum-machine playing a sound that is
the same everytime and has a fast attack.
record this in a harddisk-recorder ( like Logic itself )
open it up in a waveform editor where you can measure the lenght
between each sound.
- Now, is the distance between each sound EXACTLY the same ?
this is the timing problems i mean, and in my experience
the hardware midi-sequencers like MPC-60 and alike are way more precise
than computer-based ones.
I do remember the atari's i used in the late 80's having better timing,
but the integration in logic
between HD-recording/editing and sequencing gives so many other
possibillities...
again - if i needed tight midi i'd get a MPC-60 but atm i'm going
down the route of analogue sequencing ( bringing us back on-topic )
i've already got a serge sequencer panel, and my next wish is a TKB -
there will be endless fun synching these to
my various drummachines and synth w arpeggiators and suchlike.
actually, this mail has given me an idea i'll go try out right away:
I'll make a precise click track ( sound not midi ) in logic and try
routing that into the serge as a clock for the serge sequencer panel...
Has anyone here on the list got any experince/ideas in something like
this that they'd like to
share ?
Kim
i'm not talking about a fixed midi latency
- Try this experiment:
Program a midi sequence in Logic containing equal-length notes. ( say
1/16th long on each 1/8th )
send the midi info to a synth or drum-machine playing a sound that is
the same everytime and has a fast attack.
record this in a harddisk-recorder ( like Logic itself )
open it up in a waveform editor where you can measure the lenght
between each sound.
- Now, is the distance between each sound EXACTLY the same ?
this is the timing problems i mean, and in my experience
the hardware midi-sequencers like MPC-60 and alike are way more precise
than computer-based ones.
I do remember the atari's i used in the late 80's having better timing,
but the integration in logic
between HD-recording/editing and sequencing gives so many other
possibillities...
again - if i needed tight midi i'd get a MPC-60 but atm i'm going
down the route of analogue sequencing ( bringing us back on-topic )
i've already got a serge sequencer panel, and my next wish is a TKB -
there will be endless fun synching these to
my various drummachines and synth w arpeggiators and suchlike.
actually, this mail has given me an idea i'll go try out right away:
I'll make a precise click track ( sound not midi ) in logic and try
routing that into the serge as a clock for the serge sequencer panel...
Has anyone here on the list got any experince/ideas in something like
this that they'd like to
share ?
Kim
On Jun 1, 2007, at 4:26 PM, Yulian Pugachevsky wrote:
> Kim,
>
> I too use LogicPro on a MacBookPro (and have been using it since Apple
> acquired EMagic).. never noticed any MIDI latency issues (.. and no, i
> dont make slow and sad muisic ;).. the only thing that comes to mind
> when speaking of latency in Logic are the buses, since (and go figure
> out why) there is no latency compensation. What I mean is that if you
> apply a plug-in as an insert to a track (which will play fine) vs.
> applying it as an insert to a bus and routing a given track to that
> bus (which will cause latency).
>
> Also, if you're controlling analogue gear via MIDI->CV, one should
> keep in mind the latency introduced by interface itself
>
> ... but if you are looking for a computer with REALLY tight MIDI
> timing, you may want to look into an old ATARI (520, 1040, Mega or
> Stacy).. these are really unbeatable and can rival any hardware MIDI
> seq... but MIDI-only ;)
>
> yulian.
>
> On 31-May-07, at 4:31 PM, Kim Hansen wrote:
>
>> Hi Ross
>>
>> As i read it you're not asking about midi to cv conversion,
>> but about what midi/computer setups we use ?
>>
>> - I use Logic Pro on a dual G4
>>
>> - it's ok for the slow stuff and sad songs but the midi timing really
>> isn't very
>> good. - if i wanted/needed fast, tight midi i'd get a hardware
>> sequencer instead/also
>>
>> all the best, - Kim
>>
>>
>> On May 31, 2007, at 3:47 AM, amnesia wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I have decided after a year of noodling that I would like to hear
>>> the
>>> Serge running under midi control using laptop PC- Cubase SX.
>>>
>>> I have a CV converter ( I still need to make a lead from the CV box
>>> to
>>> ground serge) but wondered what people are using midi box wise....I
>>> havent used a computer for music since the Atari 1040ste back in
>>> the
>>> early 90s.
>>>
>>> ross
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>
>
>