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Yulian,

i'm not talking about a fixed midi latency

- Try this experiment:

Program a midi sequence in Logic containing equal-length notes. ( say 1/16th long on each 1/8th )

send the midi info to a synth or drum-machine playing a sound that is the same everytime and has a fast attack.

record this in a harddisk-recorder ( like Logic itself )

open it up in a waveform editor where you can measure the lenght between each sound.

- Now, is the distance between each sound EXACTLY the same ?

this is the timing problems i mean, and in my experience

the hardware midi-sequencers like MPC-60 and alike are way more precise than computer-based ones.

I do remember the atari's i used in the late 80's having better timing, but the integration in logic

between HD-recording/editing and sequencing gives so many other possibillities...

again - if i needed tight midi i'd get a MPC-60 but atm i'm going down the route of analogue sequencing ( bringing us back on-topic )

i've already got a serge sequencer panel, and my next wish is a TKB - there will be endless fun synching these to

my various drummachines and synth w arpeggiators and suchlike.

actually, this mail has given me an idea i'll go try out right away:

I'll make a precise click track ( sound not midi ) in logic and try routing that into the serge as a clock for the serge sequencer panel...

Has anyone here on the list got any experince/ideas in something like this that they'd like to

share ?

Kim

On Jun 1, 2007, at 4:26 PM, Yulian Pugachevsky wrote:

Kim,

I too use LogicPro on a MacBookPro (and have been using it since Apple acquired EMagic).. never noticed any MIDI latency issues (.. and no, i dont make slow and sad muisic ;).. the only thing that comes to mind when speaking of latency in Logic are the buses, since (and go figure out why) there is no latency compensation. What I mean is that if you apply a plug-in as an insert to a track (which will play fine) vs. applying it as an insert to a bus and routing a given track to that bus (which will cause latency).

Also, if you're controlling analogue gear via MIDI->CV, one should keep in mind the latency introduced by interface itself

... but if you are looking for a computer with REALLY tight MIDI timing, you may want to look into an old ATARI (520, 1040, Mega or Stacy).. these are really unbeatable and can rival any hardware MIDI seq... but MIDI-only ;)

yulian.

On 31-May-07, at 4:31 PM, Kim Hansen wrote:

Hi Ross

As i read it you're not asking about midi to cv conversion,

but about what midi/computer setups we use ?

- I use Logic Pro on a dual G4

- it's ok for the slow stuff and sad songs but the midi timing really isn't very

good. - if i wanted/needed fast, tight midi i'd get a hardware sequencer instead/also

all the best, - Kim

On May 31, 2007, at 3:47 AM, amnesia wrote:

Hi all

I have decided after a year of noodling that I would like to hear the

Serge running under midi control using laptop PC- Cubase SX.

I have a CV converter ( I still need to make a lead from the CV box to

ground serge) but wondered what people are using midi box wise....I

havent used a computer for music since the Atari 1040ste back in the

early 90s.

ross

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