Re: [SynthModules] Digest Number 18
2004-02-02 by Bill Kolb
What is Max/MSP ? Thx, Bill There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Diode ladder filter?
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From: Rob 2. Re: PSIM-1 Update / Uploads From: "Mike Marsh" 3. dumb question From: "Carlos Cervantes B." 4. Re: dumb question From: "john mahoney" 5. Re: dumb question From: "Mike Marsh" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:10:31 -0800 (PST) From: Rob Subject: Re: Diode ladder filter? I used to own a Final Filtre, but sold it because I wasn't that impressed with the sound. The EFM filter sounds great though. Thanks for the info. Cheers, Rob "Brice D. Hornback" wrote: Rob, Exactly which MP3 are you referring to? I have two filters I currently use and have used them both on the various samples (but not at the same time on any of the samples I've uploaded). I actually have four more (different) filters but they are still in "kit" form. I currently use the Blacet Final Filtre and an EFM VCF-6c which is the 4-pole diode ladder filter I refer to in some of the descriptions. They both sound *totally* different so I use which ever one sounds best for what I'm doing. The Blacet has built-in EG which is a VERY nice feature and since I only have one Blacet EG1 (EG/ADSR w/LFO) at the moment... it's nice to not tie it up for other things. - Brice http://www.SynthModules.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" To: Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:24 PM Subject: [SynthModules] Diode ladder filter? > Hi Brice. Which filter did you use on these mp3's, is it a production > model or home-brew? Sounds cool. > > Thanks, > > Rob > > > > Be sure to check out the primary Web site at: > http://www.SynthModules.com > > > > Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 17:15:58 -0000 From: "Mike Marsh" Subject: Re: PSIM-1 Update / Uploads Hi Brice - I haven't been this excited about a peice of gear since I was waitng on my Kyma. The possibilies are very interesting, limited only by my own (and the collective's!) imagination. Already the samples posted have pushed mine into overdrive. Have I mentioned that I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MINE? I suppose this is not a module for everyone, at least in its current form. With an addon to store and download programs, the PSIM could indeed be a 'must-have' for any modular. That could even spawn a market for 3rd party programs! One thing to note: I have been unable to downlaod all the MP3s - some of them return an 'Unathorized to view this page' error. Perhaps you could put all the MP#s up on your website? I'm particularly interested in the last one with drum machine. Thanks! Mike --- In SynthModules@yahoogroups.com, "Brice D. Hornback" wrote: > Hello everyone. Okay... now that we've uploaded a bunch of code and sample > MP3's... how about some comments, suggestions, questions, etc.? It's been > pretty quiet here lately. > > You can view the code in a text viewer or download the actual programming > software from Basic Micro's Web site: > http://www.basicmicro.com/downloads/software/BMAtomPro.zip > > You'll need a Windows based PC to run this. Obviously, you won't be able to > actually run the code without a PSIM-1... but that'll come soon. The second > batch of three "pre-production" modules are scheduled to ship on or before > February 16th. I hope to be taking "Production" orders by this time. You > *must* be on the waiting list to get one at this point. If you're not on > the list yet, send me an email OFF LIST and I'll get you in line. > > So, what does everyone think so far? You've got actual photos, code, > MP3's... how about some discussion? > > Best regards, > > Brice D. Hornback > http://www.SynthModules.com > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SynthModules/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:34:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Carlos Cervantes B." Subject: dumb question This is maybe a dumb question: Actually I�m using a Roland MPU-101 and MAX/MSP with my Roland 100-M system. So: what does the PSIM what I can not do with my set-up? I am talking only about the TECHNICAL possibilities - forget the point that I have to carry my old Powerbook (well, you name it: MAC) and the cost-factor, which is obviously higher �. Thanks for your opinion .. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? La mejor conexi�n a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:00:36 -0500 From: "john mahoney" Subject: Re: dumb question ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Cervantes B." > > Actually I'm using a Roland MPU-101 and MAX/MSP with > my Roland 100-M system. > So: what does the PSIM what I can not do with my > set-up? I'll try to answer, to see if I my understanding is correct (especially since I'm getting one of the next units!). Your current setup can read MIDI, do any processing you program it to do (using and/or processing the MIDI data, if desired), and it can send MIDI messages. The PSIM, on the other hand, has 4 analog inputs. These can digitize analog signals, so your PSIM program can react to them (if desired). The PSIM does not output MIDI (yet?) but does output 4 analog signals. I keep thinking of them as CV outs, but these can be used as audio outputs (but there are limitations, and this is not the PSIM's original purpose). Analog signals that will be fed into the PSIM will typically include pitch, gate, clock, EGs, and/or LFOs. Analog outputs from the PSIM may be pitch (quantized, if desired), gate or trigger, clock, envelope, LFO, and more. Adding a hardware MIDI-to-C/V converter to your existing system would allow you to generate CVs (control voltages) by sending MIDI from Max/MSP to the converter. But you would lack the analog inputs. So, bottom line: Your current setup is more MIDI-oriented, whereas the PSIM is more CV-oriented. (Future expansion may change this.) How did I do, Brice? -- john ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 21:11:26 -0000 From: "Mike Marsh" Subject: Re: dumb question Hello All - Max is definitely for MIDI-oriented rigs. The addition of MSP however, allows all of the creation and manipulation of analog signals. It also allows sampling of analog inputs and there use in the output. So, Carlos's rig can do anyhting the PSIM will do, given that he has 4 ins and outs. BUT! The PSIM's BASIC-like language is much simpler to master and quicker (I suspect) to get the stuff you want out of it and into your modular. Mike --- In SynthModules@yahoogroups.com, "john mahoney" wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carlos Cervantes B." > > > > Actually I'm using a Roland MPU-101 and MAX/MSP with > > my Roland 100-M system. > > So: what does the PSIM what I can not do with my > > set-up? > > I'll try to answer, to see if I my understanding is correct (especially > since I'm getting one of the next units!). > > Your current setup can read MIDI, do any processing you program it to do > (using and/or processing the MIDI data, if desired), and it can send MIDI > messages. > > The PSIM, on the other hand, has 4 analog inputs. These can digitize analog > signals, so your PSIM program can react to them (if desired). The PSIM does > not output MIDI (yet?) but does output 4 analog signals. I keep thinking of > them as CV outs, but these can be used as audio outputs (but there are > limitations, and this is not the PSIM's original purpose). > > Analog signals that will be fed into the PSIM will typically include pitch, > gate, clock, EGs, and/or LFOs. > Analog outputs from the PSIM may be pitch (quantized, if desired), gate or > trigger, clock, envelope, LFO, and more. > > Adding a hardware MIDI-to-C/V converter to your existing system would allow > you to generate CVs (control voltages) by sending MIDI from Max/MSP to the > converter. But you would lack the analog inputs. > > So, bottom line: Your current setup is more MIDI-oriented, whereas the PSIM > is more CV-oriented. (Future expansion may change this.) > > How did I do, Brice? > -- > john ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Be sure to check out the primary Web site at: http://www.SynthModules.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SynthModules/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SynthModules-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]