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Re: [The_Cyndustries_List] Re: re:New and comparing the in comparable

2006-08-19 by Richard Brewster

I trust everyone is familiar with Ken Stone's Catgirl Synth:

http://www.cgs.synth.net/

Ken's stuff epitomizes the unusual type of module and offers a large 
number of designs for use in "unpredicability" patching.  A number of 
Cynthia's modules have been based on Ken's designs.  If you can build 
from a PC board (or get someone to do it for you), the Burst Generator 
is available from Ken right now.  I have built a good number of Ken's 
designs for my own synth.  Among my favorites are the Analog Shift 
Register, the Infinite Melody and the Burst Generator.

http://www.pugix.com/top-cabinet.htm#burstgen

-Richard Brewster

glaxon modulators wrote:
> thanks for the info  -  you kind of managed to ground my head down a 
> bit in terms of preliminary orders and what we should focus on  , i am 
> hoping cynthia will re-introduce another burst generator type device 
> as i like the sound it it .What attracts me to these modules is they 
> seem  ' abnormal '  in best possible sense and somewhat perplexing and 
> as you said will require some learning and experimentation rather 
> than predictable patching.Were looking at an ' unpredictablity device 
> ' here ' .
>  
> Ive been using the Nord modular to attempt emulation of combinations 
> (ok so very rough emulations of sorts but to get an idea of potential 
> ) its interesting   , i did a kind of super psycho lfo emulation of 
> sorts just to see the kind of sounds it could do or  ' may ' do and 
> tried a few ideas like this .
>  
> I think i know where i am now ?
>  
> matt
>  
>
>
> */legion01x <legionhwp@gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>     Forgive me but I edited your email in a few basic questions to address
>     them easier :)
>
>     > Our studio has decided to build over time a large modular , the
>     idea
>     > is to build something which can run 4- 6 monophonic parts minimum
>     > for now ,and then i came to randivide and were like heaviliy into
>     > random here Our aim is to create complex autocompositions
>     >whats a good balance of modules.I know what filters we need and what
>     > Vco i think :)
>
>     I have a decent sized cyndustries/modcan banana system now and use it
>     a LOT for autocompositional mayhem. My advice is to start with a few
>     of the more esoteric modules along with your basic VCOs and such that
>     you know you'd like and see what does the trick for you. The
>     Cyndustries modules are the most inspiring and unusual pieces I have
>     worked with and I've learned it takes sometime actually *using* the
>     modules before you realize what they can do for you. As a result I
>     wouldn't suggest buying four of anything but if you have the money buy
>     a few of different modules and see what works and interacts the best.
>
>     For specific suggestions I'd reccomend at least one of the following:
>
>     Cyndustries:
>     - Randivide
>     - Buchla Quad Lowpass gate
>     - VC ADSR Version III
>     - Gate Sequencer
>     - Prime or Rhythmic divider (or both!)
>     - Psycho LF0
>
>     In Modcan items pick up:
>     - Quad LFO (I cannot emphasize how useful this module is, it can be a
>     basic trigger, a raw VCO, or even a weird cv mixer)
>     - 6x2 Mixer (or the Cyn MixSix, or other Modcan mixer)
>     - Processor (OR Cyn Anything Module)
>
>     Now for other things I'd HIGHLY reccomend if you're going for unusual
>     and autocompostion items I say the following if you can
>     find/afford them:
>
>     Zero Oscilator - This will keep you busy exploring new tones and areas
>     for a long long time.
>
>     Burst Generator - Out of production but snap one (or two) up if you
>     ever see them used. Incredilby useful for throwing a standard patch
>     into chaotic territory.
>
>     Dark Star Chaos - Also out of production but very useful for not only
>     unusual timbres but also as a modulation source.
>
>     >not sure what i need and what if these modules as limited editions go
>     out of production :) ' syndrome.
>
>     That is a concern in addition to the fact that you may have to wait a
>     few months before your order is complete. My advice is talk to Cynthia
>     and Bruce to determine what they might have available now and down the
>     road. Cynthia has already mnentioned the Randivide is going out of
>     production but again you really won't know if that is what you "need"
>     until you use it a bit. If you are concerned about "missing out" on an
>     existing module I'd say err on the side of caution and buy two at
>     least if you can afford it. You will *always* be able to sell them
>     later. I built 90% of my system from used sales (including many
>     modules still in production) and prices weren't always that much less
>     than "new" but they were available. These modules have a rabid
>     following and for better or worse many of us have the "bug" and snatch
>     them up whenever available.
>
>     > i know this is an possible unanswerable question ! the system will
>     > focus heavily on special fx and noise effects , the ran divide i
>     can
>     > see us using alot.
>
>     You didn't mention your budget so Id say mix and match to get the
>     widest variety of things within what you can afford. Grab the ones you
>     feel will be the most useful (OOP or otherwise) first.
>
>     > Hope someone can make sense of my logic ?
>
>     Hopefully my response does?
>
>     > Ps is 1 logic pack enough :)?
>
>     Again I would go for a logipac and a staircase comparator or other
>     clock/divide/logic module before buying two of one module. You gain a
>     lot in Cyndustires stuff by mixing different modules together.
>
>     > (i just heard someone say , you can never have enough !)
>
>     Well be careful because that is true! If you want to know the
>     dangerous and addicitve side of this look in the "user setups" photo
>     album. In April of this year I had two sixpaks of Cyndustries modules
>     only (Legiongoesbananas.jpg). Today I uploaded a picture of my modular
>     taken four months later (Legion_bananastwo.jpg) which now has FIVE
>     sixpaks (including two ZeroVCOS), a Serge Panel, and a Serge TKB. Not
>     pictured are the Fenix, an Anything Module on order, and an empty
>     sixpak (which I am hiding from myself least I fill it up!!).
>
>     And this is JUST the banana modular not the vintage stuff or 1/8" euro
>     and frac systems in my studio. ouch!
>
>     :)
>
>     Have fun!
>
>     _D
>

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