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Re: re:New and comparing the in comparable

2006-08-19 by david rothbaum

Also Metalbox makes a number of the cgs modules in the frac format.
And can build them with banana plugs on most of them for no extra charge. 

Cynthia's ran divide is, to the best of my knowledge (i do not own
one),a combination of the cgs/metalbox digital noise & VC diver
modules. all of his stuff is really well made and i would recommend
his stuff highly. so that is an option too if you want to do the
Franken synth thing.

http://www.metalbox.com

--david


--- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster
<pugix@...> wrote:
>
> I trust everyone is familiar with Ken Stone's Catgirl Synth:
> 
> http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> 
> Ken's stuff epitomizes the unusual type of module and offers a large 
> number of designs for use in "unpredicability" patching.  A number of 
> Cynthia's modules have been based on Ken's designs.  If you can build 
> from a PC board (or get someone to do it for you), the Burst Generator 
> is available from Ken right now.  I have built a good number of Ken's 
> designs for my own synth.  Among my favorites are the Analog Shift 
> Register, the Infinite Melody and the Burst Generator.
> 
> http://www.pugix.com/top-cabinet.htm#burstgen
> 
> -Richard Brewster
> 
> glaxon modulators wrote:
> > thanks for the info  -  you kind of managed to ground my head down a 
> > bit in terms of preliminary orders and what we should focus on  ,
i am 
> > hoping cynthia will re-introduce another burst generator type device 
> > as i like the sound it it .What attracts me to these modules is they 
> > seem  ' abnormal '  in best possible sense and somewhat perplexing
and 
> > as you said will require some learning and experimentation rather 
> > than predictable patching.Were looking at an ' unpredictablity device 
> > ' here ' .
> >  
> > Ive been using the Nord modular to attempt emulation of combinations 
> > (ok so very rough emulations of sorts but to get an idea of potential 
> > ) its interesting   , i did a kind of super psycho lfo emulation of 
> > sorts just to see the kind of sounds it could do or  ' may ' do and 
> > tried a few ideas like this .
> >  
> > I think i know where i am now ?
> >  
> > matt
> >  
> >
> >
> > */legion01x <legionhwp@...>/* wrote:
> >
> >     Forgive me but I edited your email in a few basic questions to
address
> >     them easier :)
> >
> >     > Our studio has decided to build over time a large modular , the
> >     idea
> >     > is to build something which can run 4- 6 monophonic parts
minimum
> >     > for now ,and then i came to randivide and were like heaviliy
into
> >     > random here Our aim is to create complex autocompositions
> >     >whats a good balance of modules.I know what filters we need
and what
> >     > Vco i think :)
> >
> >     I have a decent sized cyndustries/modcan banana system now and
use it
> >     a LOT for autocompositional mayhem. My advice is to start with
a few
> >     of the more esoteric modules along with your basic VCOs and
such that
> >     you know you'd like and see what does the trick for you. The
> >     Cyndustries modules are the most inspiring and unusual pieces
I have
> >     worked with and I've learned it takes sometime actually
*using* the
> >     modules before you realize what they can do for you. As a result I
> >     wouldn't suggest buying four of anything but if you have the
money buy
> >     a few of different modules and see what works and interacts
the best.
> >
> >     For specific suggestions I'd reccomend at least one of the
following:
> >
> >     Cyndustries:
> >     - Randivide
> >     - Buchla Quad Lowpass gate
> >     - VC ADSR Version III
> >     - Gate Sequencer
> >     - Prime or Rhythmic divider (or both!)
> >     - Psycho LF0
> >
> >     In Modcan items pick up:
> >     - Quad LFO (I cannot emphasize how useful this module is, it
can be a
> >     basic trigger, a raw VCO, or even a weird cv mixer)
> >     - 6x2 Mixer (or the Cyn MixSix, or other Modcan mixer)
> >     - Processor (OR Cyn Anything Module)
> >
> >     Now for other things I'd HIGHLY reccomend if you're going for
unusual
> >     and autocompostion items I say the following if you can
> >     find/afford them:
> >
> >     Zero Oscilator - This will keep you busy exploring new tones
and areas
> >     for a long long time.
> >
> >     Burst Generator - Out of production but snap one (or two) up
if you
> >     ever see them used. Incredilby useful for throwing a standard
patch
> >     into chaotic territory.
> >
> >     Dark Star Chaos - Also out of production but very useful for
not only
> >     unusual timbres but also as a modulation source.
> >
> >     >not sure what i need and what if these modules as limited
editions go
> >     out of production :) ' syndrome.
> >
> >     That is a concern in addition to the fact that you may have to
wait a
> >     few months before your order is complete. My advice is talk to
Cynthia
> >     and Bruce to determine what they might have available now and
down the
> >     road. Cynthia has already mnentioned the Randivide is going out of
> >     production but again you really won't know if that is what you
"need"
> >     until you use it a bit. If you are concerned about "missing
out" on an
> >     existing module I'd say err on the side of caution and buy two at
> >     least if you can afford it. You will *always* be able to sell them
> >     later. I built 90% of my system from used sales (including many
> >     modules still in production) and prices weren't always that
much less
> >     than "new" but they were available. These modules have a rabid
> >     following and for better or worse many of us have the "bug"
and snatch
> >     them up whenever available.
> >
> >     > i know this is an possible unanswerable question ! the
system will
> >     > focus heavily on special fx and noise effects , the ran divide i
> >     can
> >     > see us using alot.
> >
> >     You didn't mention your budget so Id say mix and match to get the
> >     widest variety of things within what you can afford. Grab the
ones you
> >     feel will be the most useful (OOP or otherwise) first.
> >
> >     > Hope someone can make sense of my logic ?
> >
> >     Hopefully my response does?
> >
> >     > Ps is 1 logic pack enough :)?
> >
> >     Again I would go for a logipac and a staircase comparator or other
> >     clock/divide/logic module before buying two of one module. You
gain a
> >     lot in Cyndustires stuff by mixing different modules together.
> >
> >     > (i just heard someone say , you can never have enough !)
> >
> >     Well be careful because that is true! If you want to know the
> >     dangerous and addicitve side of this look in the "user setups"
photo
> >     album. In April of this year I had two sixpaks of Cyndustries
modules
> >     only (Legiongoesbananas.jpg). Today I uploaded a picture of my
modular
> >     taken four months later (Legion_bananastwo.jpg) which now has FIVE
> >     sixpaks (including two ZeroVCOS), a Serge Panel, and a Serge
TKB. Not
> >     pictured are the Fenix, an Anything Module on order, and an empty
> >     sixpak (which I am hiding from myself least I fill it up!!).
> >
> >     And this is JUST the banana modular not the vintage stuff or
1/8" euro
> >     and frac systems in my studio. ouch!
> >
> >     :)
> >
> >     Have fun!
> >
> >     _D
> >
>

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