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Re: [The_Cyndustries_List] Re: Dotcom ZO's? or when does a delay get so long it just becomes a memory

2006-10-26 by Dale (Inquisitor Betrayer)

I don't know about the Oasys things you are waiting on but
Stephen Kay seems to have spent a lot of his effort on it.

Much to my dismay as I am waiting for him to return to the karma software
updates and possible Universal program for karma to use on other synths...

Then I read the Legacy software is now on Oasys, I seen new patches across
the
korg forums to Stephen Kay's Karma-labs forums etc. 20k for the one I would
want with all that right off....

I would not say, very little is being worked on, esp. when you know how much
these things are to start off with.
I small group of owners with a few like Stephen Kay focused on it? hum ... I
see it from another side for sure here.

While on a rant, lets not forget to throw the Alesis Fusion in that mix,
Micron with no OS updates and several bugs and ION OS updated
needed with a full list of bugs on the group site... plenty to talk about in
the mix here... <I am the moderator of the Micron/Ion group btw and a
Ion/Fusion owner>

MOTM, my frustration with Paul is he is single sourcing the newer Frac
designs as well as changing things as he sees fit. Understandable it is
from a biz perspective but as a future buyer, he has almost lost me as a
customer due these things. I just wait now and see what will fall out
before I start on that slippery slope that is the modular way. I would feel
much better when there are many who carry the line and not just
the one.

Cynthia's work. I expect a long wait. I think I been here long enough now to
know, order now, expect to wait. I see that is part of the cycle. Paul too
on his MOTM.
However, do tell me who else makes the same things? It's a nich market for a
very few. You want some cool sounds to use in your tracks, hum ... I think I
would wait.

nada wrong with the other modular's .. in Paul's case, it's the sealed pots
that keeps my eye on him. I hate cleaning/replacing pots. I live in a dusty
part of the world. If I buy from someone else, I will take it apart and
change the pots right off. That is a plan if things stay the way they are
with MOTM/Frac.

There are only a few of these great people who make the things we like to
play left. I don't see a replacement team anywhere yet? Once these fine
people are gone, now what?
You know Paul only does this as a hobby, he wont forever.

good luck, find some patience, relax and make some music ... note me when
you do, I like to hear what others are doing.

dale

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: rslawson

This issue is very much the same with most small outfits like MOTM et al.

The truth about taking 100% payments in advance can only be about funding
the business operational and development costs IMO.

I may be wrong but in my experience this is usually the case and not
surprising really as most small business have little if any operating cash.
Your payments, patience and support keep it all alive so you either keep the
faith or they go out of business.  Paul S of MOTM has some very loyal
customers (including myself it seems) which keep him going and with Cynthia'
s circumstances this year, I 'm sure this situation is very challenging.

If this was the cut and thrust world of the corporate's then we would all
walk away (Read Korg, Roland etc) but then we don't get the quirky/unique
products and concepts to play with.  Might be worth mentioning that I am
also an owner of a Korg OASYS that, to date, has had very little in the way
of product development that was promised from Korg 18 Months ago.  When you
spend £5400 + UKP on a synth from a giant like Korg then you definitely
expect better but even these people drop the ball.

Be patient guys but maybe some updates from Cynthia (like Paul S is now
doing) would help stem the dissent.  Sometimes a little communication, even
if its bad news, just keeps us enthusiast at bay for another month or so and
makes us feel valued to some extent.

Richard

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