Just my particular setup. Probably something somewhere didn't gel quite right, wiring layout, who knows. However, excessive shunt resistance is a well documented phenomena for oscillator irregular operation. The schematic is on the kepptheremins yahoo group, and Marks original is on my site at http://wwww.neidlinger.us/keppinger.htm --- In aetherphon@...m, kkissinger@... wrote: > > Philip, > > Is a schematic of the Keppinger theremin available? > > Do all the oscillators have this problem or is it just your variable > frequency oscillator? > > If you disconnect the oscillator from the detector does it oscillate > strongly? One wonders if there is a leaky capacitor or something that > is robbing energy from the tank. > > Normally, one expects the oscillators to couple -- is it possible that > instead of coupling they are phase-cancelling each other out? > > I've not spent appreciable time with vacuum tube circuits however I'd > check the individual oscillators (that is, I'd deactivate all but the > oscillator I'm testing) and determine if the issue is with an > individual circuit or is some kind of interaction. > > All the best... keep us posted. > > -- Kevin > > Quoting Philip <kmg5443@...>: > > > When I was building my Keppinger theremin, I recall that it sounded > > wonderful. What was not wonderful was the issue that the oscillators > > would not keep oscillating. I could momentarily restore function by > > grasping the large coils. The suckers would work for a minute or so > > and then quit. I believe the X factor, be it the transconductance > > of the tubes or my own unique and extensive personal magnetic > > bio-field, somehow prevented my theremin from working correctly > > (perhaps an unrealistic expectation). Permanent dunking of the unit > > in the nearby Atlantic Ocean was almost realized due to engineering > > frustration on my part. > > > > I have a WW2 era tome, Radio Engineer's Handbook, by Frederick E. > > Termen, Sc.D. I wonder if he was related to Lev? Anyway, one of the > > items discussed under in oscillator chapter was that the time > > constant formed by the grid shunt bias resistor Rg and the coupling > > resistor Cg to the tank was important. > > > > The text stated that if intermittent operation of a Hartley > > oscillator is experienced, then reducing the time constant Rg x Cg > > may be helpful. In essence, the tank is not getting enough "kick" to > > keep it running. The text also stated that the preferable method of > > accomplishing the reduction was via decreasing Cg, and NOT Rg. > > Reducing Rg would change the bias operating point of the tube. > > > > The initial values were Rg = 100 Kohms and Cg = .001 uF. I had > > reduced Rg to around 80 Kohms and voila!, the sucker worked. > > > > Now memory being what is, I seem to recall that the theremin sounded > > better when it was intermittent. I posit that my changing of the > > grid shunt resistance, not only shifting the bias point of the tube, > > but also changing the tone of the instrument. In retrospect, I > > perhaps should have reduced the value of Cg. My napkin calculations > > indicate values in the neighborhood of 750 pF with the original > > 100Kohm shunt. Obtaining a variable cap in that value is not > > practical. So, one needs to tack solder a range of values from 470 > > to 750 pF and see if the intermittent operation is cured and the > > sound is better. Mica caps in that size are cheap. > > > > My primary complaint has been lack of character in the tone, i.e. > > the waveforms closely resemble a sine wave at some points. The high > > frequency harmonic issue has been largely cured by careful selection > > of the two oscillator frequencies so any mixing products are > > outside the human range of hearing (i.e greater than 20 KHz), and > > careful selection of the volume oscillator bias point. If the bias > > of the volume oscillator circuit is advanced too much, i.e. more > > volume for a given hand position, "fuzzing" of the tone at low > > frequencies (approximately 500 Hz and lower) is noticed and is > > objectionable, rather than what one would expect from pleasant > > overtones. > > > > I am a quintessential Electrical Engineer. I read this text while on > > the throne at my day job. > > > > Opinions? > > > > Thanks > > > > Philip Neidlinger > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community > > > > To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@... > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Keppinger Oscillators
2010-10-14 by Philip
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