AETHERPHON, global theremin family

Well finally a possible answer for what I was looking for!!!

I will try it  at the store this weekend if possible, but please keep me informed about how it works


Saludos,

Óscar

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kkissinger@... 
  To: spellbound-l@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [SPELLBOUND-L] Looper pedals for decaying layers


  Hi!

  This topic is a good one and has had me scratching my head for a few 
  days since reading about this issue on TW. I own an RC50 loop station 
  and it has two modes of looping, namely "Overdub" and "Replace".

  In "Overdub" mode, as the loop repeats one can overdub -- that is add 
  the live material to the loop. The RC50 apparently has a pretty good 
  algorithm for keeping the old material from "fading" into the mix -- 
  my hunch is that the RC50 averages the sound rather than mixes it 
  algebraically. The point is that "Overdub" mode keeps each pass of 
  the loop indefinately.

  In "Replace" mode, the loop repeats and you are replacing the contents 
  of the loop with new material while the old material plays. Yes, this 
  is a little "weird": You play material on the track, the material 
  plays back while you record along with the track, then the new 
  material plays back on the next pass -- that is, only the most 
  recently recorded track is repeated.

  The difficulty is to have a loop that works similar to the old 
  echoplex tape loop where a track becomes successively softer on each 
  iteration of the loop. This is accomplished by mixing a portion of 
  the looper's output to the looper's input.

  Since the RC-50 has a built-in mixer, you could accomplish the "fading 
  track" as follows: (this example for a mono loop)

  1) patch the Theremin's output to the looper's instrument input (the 
  input has its own input level so you should be able to back it off if 
  need be)

  2) Assign the loop track's output to both the main and sub output busses.

  3) Connect a patch cord from the sub output to the line input.

  4) Adjust the line input level -- a the higher the level, the longer 
  it takes for the track to fade out.

  Note that this method takes you out of the digital domain, so you will 
  get analog loop artifacts (noise buildup, etc) which may or may not be 
  a problem depending on the effect you want.

  Of course, with a small external mixer, one could get into more 
  elaborate schemes with ping-pongs and effects in the echo loop.

  Even with a simple loop station, the key to a track fading out with 
  each pass is feedback -- that is, you take part of the output signal 
  and mix it back into the input.

  I, too want the option of successively fading loops, and this solution 
  should work. Anyway, I worked out this solution while sitting at my 
  desk (day job) and I'm looking forward to running home and playing 
  around with this.

  -- Kevin

  Quoting Oscar <oscar@...>:

  > Hi people!
  >
  > AS I am asking everywhere else, I am looking for any pedal/group of pedals
  > to achieve the effect of "constant decaying layers" Pamelia uses. I know She
  > uses a DL4, but there must be better choices at the market.
  >
  > TO explain what I am looking for, look this video of the violinist Ed
  > Alleyne Johnson:
  >
  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fHOwTp0gXs
  >
  > Anyone here knows any delay/looper unit able to make this effect?
  > I mean, with enough seconds ver loop to play a melody and harmonize it.
  >
  > Thanks guys!
  >
  > Óscar
  >
  >
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