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An odd but fruitful phone call....

An odd but fruitful phone call....

2007-10-03 by David V

I've been working on my Purple Note e-commerce store, and gathering 
music contacts and such, and I wanted to sell some books as well.  I've 
been in touch with Jan Bilk for Carolina Eyck's theremin method book (I 
have a sample of it and it is really well done) and I thought about 
other theremin books, and thought I would do some research on wholesale 
books.

This is harder than it sounds.  There are a lot of scams on-line, splogs 
that seem to use that term hoping to cheat folks out of their Google Ads 
dollars, and a lot of companies that sell clearances and cutouts.  And 
one distributor that seemed to be the real McCoy, a company called 
Ingram, has a minimum purchase of 100. (?!?)  Well, I suppose they sell 
to Waldenbooks and stuff....

So I figured, maybe the publisher might know something.  AT the very 
least, maybe it could get me going.  I got my copy of the Theremin 
biography and looked and saw it was published by the University of 
Illinois Press, so I looked up their web site and browsed around.  I 
found an ordering page, but not a lot of information so I called the 
number for their sales department.  I spoke to a very friendly and 
helpful woman who explained to me their resale policies, which is pretty 
much give 'em some info about my retail business and get a discount (a 
very nice discount, as it happens) and there you go.  No wholesalers to 
mess with, just straight from the publisher at resale discount price 
with no minimum purchase!

And to top it all off, the woman offered me Dr. Glinsky's contact 
information, in case I wanted to do an interview!!!!!

I'll seriously have to consider that.....


-- 
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DAVID VESEL -- synthetic music for humans
http://davidv.purplenote.com davidv@...
-----
The Purple Note Radio Network:
Spellbound, a brief program of music for theremin
Sunday 10PM-12AM http://spellbound.purplenote.com
Different Drummers: Rare Instruments and Unusual Music
Coming Soon http://diffdrum.purplenote.com
-----

Re: [Aetherphon] An odd but fruitful phone call....

2007-10-03 by dbohn@ticon.net

>So I figured, maybe the publisher might know something.  AT the very
>least, maybe it could get me going.  I got my copy of the Theremin
>biography and looked and saw it was published by the University of
>Illinois Press, so I looked up their web site and browsed around.  I
>found an ordering page, but not a lot of information so I called the
>number for their sales department.  I spoke to a very friendly and
>helpful woman who explained to me their resale policies, which is pretty
>much give 'em some info about my retail business and get a discount (a
>very nice discount, as it happens) and there you go.  No wholesalers to
>mess with, just straight from the publisher at resale discount price
>with no minimum purchase!
>
>And to top it all off, the woman offered me Dr. Glinsky's contact
>information, in case I wanted to do an interview!!!!!
>
>I'll seriously have to consider that.....

The folks at U of I (and U of I Press) are very friendly folks. Of course,
I'm pretty biased, since I'm an alumnus...
-- 
David Bohn

composer
conductor
organist

dbohn@...
http://www.wiscomposers.org/members/bohnd.html

CD production in your own kitchen?

2007-10-09 by John Hoge

Hey Aetherphonics,

Does anyone know of an on-line guide or tutorial to making compact disks of
your own music?
I'm particularly curious about techniques for consistent levels, etc.  But
could use more info on the entire process from recording to production and
shipping.

Thanks everyone, I'd appreciate any recourses or advice you may have.

sincerely,
John Hoge, NYC
www.hoge-theremin.com

Re: [Aetherphon] CD production in your own kitchen?

2007-10-09 by David V

Music production breaks down into four functions, assuming you're ready 
to perform:

1) Performance capture.  For bands, it means recording all of the parts 
individually, even if they do it all at the same time.  For an 
individual musician, it's the modern equivalent of what we used to call 
"multitracking".  The leading software packages for this, called digital 
audio workstation (DAW) software, on the high end, are Cakewalk Sonar 
(which I use) and Steinberg Cubase.  Mac users also have the option of 
Apple eMagic Logic.  There are some other interesting, less expensive 
titles, such as Ableton Live, FL Studio, Apple Garageband, Cakewalk Home 
Studio, and so forth.  These generally combine MIDI sequencing and 
digital multitrack recording (since they came out of broadly servicing 
electronic musicians) into an integrated package.

Using these is just like any audio recorder, just more of it. :-)

2) Mixing.  Usually also done with the same packages, and here is where 
you add your effects.  There are so many free effects modules for 
download from the Internet, there's almost no reason to buy one unless 
you're doing high-end production and you just can't find what you want. 
  Many DAWs come stuffed with free plugins, and good free downloads are 
easy to find, such as the Kjaerhus Classic plugins (which I use).

There's a bit more art involved in mixing, because you're mixing 
technical knowledge with musical intuition.  Here are some articles on 
mixing I could find.

http://www.canadianmusicartists.com/tutorials.html (especially the first 
link)
http://zmatek.jinak.cz/diy/_upload_by_VeeHell/know2how/Audio_Tutorials_Library_By_LooPus/doing_it/recording_mixing/How%20to%20Mix%20a%20Pop%20Song%20From%20Scratch.htm 
(this one is quite long and quite technical)

3) Mastering.  This is far and away the hardest step, but it is what 
will define the difference, performances being equal, between something 
that sounds like a commercial production and something that came out of 
someone's garage.  You can use a low-end audio editor, such as Adobe 
Audition, for this, which also permits the use of plugins, but the high 
end here is very very very high.  Pro Tools is the price midrange of a 
market segment almost with no upper end in sight.  Here are a couple of 
articles on it, but dig more, because the truth is out there. 
Unfortunately, about 2/3rds of the hits back from Google on "mastering 
an album" will net you lots of people who are selling this service, 
perpetuating the myth that it is something only professionals can do.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/368342/tips_on_mastering_an_album.html
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan06/articles/logicnotes.htm

4) Burning.  This actually isn't all that difficult anymore, since most 
CD/DVD burning packages do music quite nicely.  I use Nero 7 Ultimate, 
which is about $80.


-----
DAVID VESEL -- synthetic music for humans
http://davidv.purplenote.com davidv@...
-----
The Purple Note Radio Network:
Spellbound, a brief program of music for theremin
Sunday 10PM-12AM http://spellbound.purplenote.com
Different Drummers: Rare Instruments and Unusual Music
Coming Soon http://diffdrum.purplenote.com
-----




John Hoge wrote:
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> Hey Aetherphonics,
> 
> Does anyone know of an on-line guide or tutorial to making compact disks of
> your own music?
> I'm particularly curious about techniques for consistent levels, etc.  But
> could use more info on the entire process from recording to production and
> shipping.
> 
> Thanks everyone, I'd appreciate any recourses or advice you may have.
> 
> sincerely,
> John Hoge, NYC
> www.hoge-theremin.com
> 
> 
> 
> AETHERPHON, the glocal thereminist community
> 
> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [Aetherphon] CD production in your own kitchen?

2007-10-09 by carvin knowles

You forgot the first and arguably best: Digital
Performer by MOTU. While it was created for scoring
films, many of the early digital remixes were done on
it. In fact, The Crystal Method still uses it for
everything.

Yeah, mastering is the toughest thing to learn. I'm
old enough to be old-skool, so I learned about
compression, bias and EQ from doing it on tape. It's a
combination of learning which modules to use and
learning how to listen. I never use presets, but I
know many people who do. Still, it's best to learn to
use your ears. 

As a thereminist, your ears are already better attuned
than most peoples'.






--- David V <porphyrous@...> wrote:

> Music production breaks down into four functions,
> assuming you're ready 
> to perform:
> 
> 1) Performance capture.  For bands, it means
> recording all of the parts 
> individually, even if they do it all at the same
> time.  For an 
> individual musician, it's the modern equivalent of
> what we used to call 
> "multitracking".  The leading software packages for
> this, called digital 
> audio workstation (DAW) software, on the high end,
> are Cakewalk Sonar 
> (which I use) and Steinberg Cubase.  Mac users also
> have the option of 
> Apple eMagic Logic.  There are some other
> interesting, less expensive 
> titles, such as Ableton Live, FL Studio, Apple
> Garageband, Cakewalk Home 
> Studio, and so forth.  These generally combine MIDI
> sequencing and 
> digital multitrack recording (since they came out of
> broadly servicing 
> electronic musicians) into an integrated package.
> 
> Using these is just like any audio recorder, just
> more of it. :-)
> 
> 2) Mixing.  Usually also done with the same
> packages, and here is where 
> you add your effects.  There are so many free
> effects modules for 
> download from the Internet, there's almost no reason
> to buy one unless 
> you're doing high-end production and you just can't
> find what you want. 
>   Many DAWs come stuffed with free plugins, and good
> free downloads are 
> easy to find, such as the Kjaerhus Classic plugins
> (which I use).
> 
> There's a bit more art involved in mixing, because
> you're mixing 
> technical knowledge with musical intuition.  Here
> are some articles on 
> mixing I could find.
> 
> http://www.canadianmusicartists.com/tutorials.html
> (especially the first 
> link)
>
http://zmatek.jinak.cz/diy/_upload_by_VeeHell/know2how/Audio_Tutorials_Library_By_LooPus/doing_it/recording_mixing/How%20to%20Mix%20a%20Pop%20Song%20From%20Scratch.htm
> 
> (this one is quite long and quite technical)
> 
> 3) Mastering.  This is far and away the hardest
> step, but it is what 
> will define the difference, performances being
> equal, between something 
> that sounds like a commercial production and
> something that came out of 
> someone's garage.  You can use a low-end audio
> editor, such as Adobe 
> Audition, for this, which also permits the use of
> plugins, but the high 
> end here is very very very high.  Pro Tools is the
> price midrange of a 
> market segment almost with no upper end in sight. 
> Here are a couple of 
> articles on it, but dig more, because the truth is
> out there. 
> Unfortunately, about 2/3rds of the hits back from
> Google on "mastering 
> an album" will net you lots of people who are
> selling this service, 
> perpetuating the myth that it is something only
> professionals can do.
> 
>
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/368342/tips_on_mastering_an_album.html
>
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan06/articles/logicnotes.htm
> 
> 4) Burning.  This actually isn't all that difficult
> anymore, since most 
> CD/DVD burning packages do music quite nicely.  I
> use Nero 7 Ultimate, 
> which is about $80.
> 
> 
> -----
> DAVID VESEL -- synthetic music for humans
> http://davidv.purplenote.com davidv@...
> -----
> The Purple Note Radio Network:
> Spellbound, a brief program of music for theremin
> Sunday 10PM-12AM http://spellbound.purplenote.com
> Different Drummers: Rare Instruments and Unusual
> Music
> Coming Soon http://diffdrum.purplenote.com
> -----
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John Hoge wrote:
> > Hey Aetherphonics,
> > 
> > Does anyone know of an on-line guide or tutorial
> to making compact disks of
> > your own music?
> > I'm particularly curious about techniques for
> consistent levels, etc.  But
> > could use more info on the entire process from
> recording to production and
> > shipping.
> > 
> > Thanks everyone, I'd appreciate any recourses or
> advice you may have.
> > 
> > sincerely,
> > John Hoge, NYC
> > www.hoge-theremin.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > AETHERPHON, the glocal thereminist community
> > 
> > To contact the moderator, e-mail
> porphyrous@...
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> AETHERPHON, the glocal thereminist community
> 
> To contact the moderator, e-mail
> porphyrous@...
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



       
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Re: [Aetherphon] CD production in your own kitchen?

2007-10-12 by John Hoge

Thanks so much for all the great tips and info guys.
I want to ask another question, if I may, is there is a quick way to get a
consistent level throughout an entire compact disk?

For instance, I have a lot of finished tracks and many have different "max"
levels in them so that when combined in a compact disk and you set your play
back volume for one, the next may sound too soft or too loud.

I've tried using the iTunes "Use Sound Check" setting when burning the
disks, but it does not seem to really solve all of the inconsistencies in
peak level through out the play list/compact disk.

Any additional tips or free tools for this particular step in production
would be a great help.

thanks a million, you're helping a lot!

Skol - John
www.hoge-theremin.com


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Re: [Aetherphon] CD production in your own kitchen?

2007-10-12 by Gordon Charlton

John - you have GarageBand? Load your tracks into GB and then export  
them to disk. That will automatically put them all to a standard max  
level. If you have other audio editing software the keyword is  
"Normalise."

Gordon
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On 12 Oct 2007, at 16:27, John Hoge wrote:

> Thanks so much for all the great tips and info guys.
> I want to ask another question, if I may, is there is a quick way  
> to get a
> consistent level throughout an entire compact disk?
>
> For instance, I have a lot of finished tracks and many have  
> different "max"
> levels in them so that when combined in a compact disk and you set  
> your play
> back volume for one, the next may sound too soft or too loud.
>
> I've tried using the iTunes "Use Sound Check" setting when burning the
> disks, but it does not seem to really solve all of the  
> inconsistencies in
> peak level through out the play list/compact disk.
>
> Any additional tips or free tools for this particular step in  
> production
> would be a great help.
>
> thanks a million, you're helping a lot!
>
> Skol - John
> www.hoge-theremin.com
>

Re: [Aetherphon] CD production in your own kitchen?

2007-10-12 by John Hoge

Thanks Gordon,
I'm on a PC so do not have GarageBand.
I do have Audacity and Cubase but they don't seem to do
play lists exporting like you describe in GarageBand,
maybe they *do* have "Normalise" and I'd save each track out individually,
then combine into an iTunes playlist and burn.
I'll check tonight.

much appreciated!
- jh


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