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Hands Off 2009 - Big News

Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-22 by Gordon Charlton

First of all, a quick introduction to Hands Off, in case you haven't  
heard of it.

Hands Off is a biannual UK based theremin event.

Two years ago we organised "Hands Off - The Theremin Symposium", a  
long weekend of talks, master classes and workshops focussing  
primarily on classical theremin skills and culminating in a three  
hour concert "Hands Off - The Theremin Concert" showcasing the  
diversity of British and International theremin playing. We closed  
the doors for the symposium when we had fifty attendees, and the  
concert was also sold out.

We all had a brilliant time.

The plan was to repeat and expand on the symposium this year.  
(Actually, that was the second plan - the first plan fell at the  
starting gate.) Over the last few months we have been staring the  
Credit Crunch hard in the face. It has affected the Charlton family  
directly, and we are not the only people in the theremin community  
having a hard time of it. We have come to the conclusion that this is  
not the right time for a big, costly affair. As a return attendee I  
would not want to pay more than I did last time for something I had  
done before. I am also mindful that last time the cost did exclude  
some UK based thereminists.

Do not fear! I am indefatigable. All this means is that now is the  
right time to do something different. To offer something not offered  
by Etherfest in the US or Without Touch in Germany. And to avoid  
overreaching our ambition and scale down a bit.

I have an idea. The first step is to see if you like it.

Firstly - we need to shift the focus a little, from the theremin as  
the last great classical instrument, to it's other identity as the  
first great electronic instrument. Let's celebrate that this time  
around!

I have some experience of great weekends of electronic music,  
courtesy of my record label "White Label Music" who do a thing they  
call a "Sonic Weekend" a weekend where a bunch of keen electronic  
musicians come together and record an album. Just like that. I was  
dubious at first, but I've been to three of them now, they work and I  
know how to run one. You can find the results on iTunes. Here. http:// 
tinyurl.com/bsymka

Notice that there are four albums, from three weekends. The "Kitchen  
Cuts" album was an impromptu side-project at the second Sonic  
Weekend, recorded without the assistance of their resident producer  
and finished off online after the event, and my personal favourite of  
all four albums.

This is the format I am considering. We find a small hall that  
doesn't mind a little noise and hire it for a weekend, sharing the  
cost equally. We'll try and cut a deal with a local hotel to  
accommodate us all overnight, and during the day we'll lay on big  
pots of Spaghetti Bolognese and such like. Everyone brings what  
equipment they can - theremins of course, monitors, mics, laptops,  
and other instruments - if you've got a musical skill, bring it to  
the party! We break up into groups, we talk, we plan, we play, we  
record, we mix as we go along, (we finish off on our computers  
afterwards) - plenty of busy time for everyone, but also time to  
chat, to hang out, watch the other groups recording, swap tricks and  
tips.

And at the end, as if by magic, there's an album. I'll be honest -  
it's probably not going to make you rich. But it's a great memento of  
a great weekend just hanging out with like minded musicians, doing  
what musicians do - making music.

Twenty people recording is about right. There's probably also going  
to be room for some kibbutzing - if you're not confident about  
recording live, just come and hang out - we'll be glad of your  
money. :-)

So this is what I suggest for 2009 - "Hands Off - The Album."

Are you interested?

Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-23 by Victoria Lundy

I¹m going to have to co-ordinate a trip to Britain with the NEXT Hands Off.
Not viable this year.

Sounds like a good plan, Mr. Charlton.

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Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-24 by Gordon Charlton

On 23 Feb 2009, at 18:05, Victoria Lundy wrote:

> I¹m going to have to co-ordinate a trip to Britain with the NEXT  
> Hands Off.
> Not viable this year.
>
> Sounds like a good plan, Mr. Charlton.

Why, thank you Ms. Lundy.

If it turns out to be a good plan (I'm pretty confident on this  
front) it's worth noting that it is also a reproducible plan, and a  
lot simpler - from the organiser's point of view - than a full blown  
fest. Maybe it will catch on.

I look forward to meeting you at HO 2011, whatever form it takes. I  
only guarantee there will be theremins, and thereminists, and good  
times.

Gordon

Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-24 by Joseph Swails

Too bad I'm across the big pond (and a big land mass) in the USA.  
I've been to the UK three times but it's not in the cards (or the  
budget) right now.

I do like the emphasis you're putting on the theremin as an  
electronic music instrument. I'm not a classical player (ambient  
electronic is my thing), and often it seems like most thereminsts are  
classical geeks instead of techno-nerds like me. Nothing wrong with  
classical, of course, but all the "stars" are classical musicians.

There is a middle ground between faithful performance of written  
classical music and making wild space noises with a heavy metal band.
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On Feb 23, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Gordon Charlton wrote:

>
> On 23 Feb 2009, at 18:05, Victoria Lundy wrote:
>
>> I¹m going to have to co-ordinate a trip to Britain with the NEXT
>> Hands Off.
>> Not viable this year.
>>
>> Sounds like a good plan, Mr. Charlton.
>
> Why, thank you Ms. Lundy.
>
> If it turns out to be a good plan (I'm pretty confident on this
> front) it's worth noting that it is also a reproducible plan, and a
> lot simpler - from the organiser's point of view - than a full blown
> fest. Maybe it will catch on.
>
> I look forward to meeting you at HO 2011, whatever form it takes. I
> only guarantee there will be theremins, and thereminists, and good
> times.
>
> Gordon
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>
> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
>
>
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>
>
>

Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-24 by Gordon Charlton

On 24 Feb 2009, at 19:01, Joseph Swails wrote:

> Too bad I'm across the big pond (and a big land mass) in the USA.
> I've been to the UK three times but it's not in the cards (or the
> budget) right now.
>
> I do like the emphasis you're putting on the theremin as an
> electronic music instrument. I'm not a classical player (ambient
> electronic is my thing), and often it seems like most thereminsts are
> classical geeks instead of techno-nerds like me. Nothing wrong with
> classical, of course, but all the "stars" are classical musicians.
>
> There is a middle ground between faithful performance of written
> classical music and making wild space noises with a heavy metal band.

I'm right there with you. You can date my musical background to 1976  
and a few years after. So Throbbing Gristle, PIL, The Fall, Pere Ubu,  
Residents, Eno - stuff with a great big DIY ethic. Then thirty years  
later I buy a theremin and start browsing theremin sites. And there's  
the stumbling block, right next to the starting block. Gotta play in  
tune. Recommended course of action - learn the violin, get ear  
training, get classically trained, practice your scales for a few  
years and live in Russia for a while, hanging out with Lydia. Then  
we'll find out if you're something special or another mediocre  
classical thereminist.

It didn't appeal to me. Make no mistake - I've got a ton of respect  
for the classical guys - that's a real challenge they take on, and  
good luck to them, but I preferred a different challenge - what can I  
do with a theremin that doesn't have the stumbling block and is more  
like the music I like. Been at it three and a third years so far...

Gordon

Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-25 by carvin knowles

Yeah, you can count me into that "Middle Field" space too.

I'm glad for all you classical Thereminist, who help ad that kind of validity to our instrument. To be certain, you guys help ensure that the instrument will be studied by the "serious music" community.  I started out my life as a "serious" composer, with a back-catalogue of dissonant orchestral works, so I get it.

But when I took up the theremin, it was to use an instrument where I had no classical technique, to play something appropriate with my DJ friends, while they played Drum and Bass and House and Electro. Sure, I can play in tune, but my technique would make Clara Rockmore cringe. I play melodies. Riffs. Motifs. Fragments of suggested orchestrations that trace the chord changes in some dramatic way.  I use long sweeps to carry one mix into another, I create trills that widen into several octaves, I make bleeps and noises that would make George Crumb proud.

(Speaking of Crumb, some of you classical-heads should arrange a performance of "Vox Bellanae" sometime. It is sure to bring our art forward, if you use it in such a "modernist" ensemble)

But my point is that as a Middle Field Thereminista, my style would probably be called Electronic Jazz (a few years back I even played at the House of Blues, New Orleans). I think I 'm with that part of the Middle Field which makes the theremin socially relevant. The way that Eric Satie performed in the Salons of Paris. The way that Jazz took root in the brothels and underground dance clubs of New Orleans and New York before it went mainstream.

And yes, I also love the classical guys...and the novelties and the academics and the headbangers. I can't get enough theremin, pretty or ugly or funny. Just play the damn thing.

And that is kinda the deal with a convention of this sort. The "Middle Field" needs to show up and represent. It's you guys who should be putting together the afterparties. The Jam sessions. It's a convention, so bust out your cool stuff. Besides, if you learn anything from the classical guys, you'll want to use it right away.

Peace

Carvin



--- On Tue, 2/24/09, Gordon Charlton <gordonc@...> wrote:
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> From: Gordon Charlton <gordonc@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 1:41 PM
> On 24 Feb 2009, at 19:01, Joseph Swails wrote:
> 
> > Too bad I'm across the big pond (and a big land
> mass) in the USA.
> > I've been to the UK three times but it's not
> in the cards (or the
> > budget) right now.
> >
> > I do like the emphasis you're putting on the
> theremin as an
> > electronic music instrument. I'm not a classical
> player (ambient
> > electronic is my thing), and often it seems like most
> thereminsts are
> > classical geeks instead of techno-nerds like me.
> Nothing wrong with
> > classical, of course, but all the "stars"
> are classical musicians.
> >
> > There is a middle ground between faithful performance
> of written
> > classical music and making wild space noises with a
> heavy metal band.
> 
> I'm right there with you. You can date my musical
> background to 1976  
> and a few years after. So Throbbing Gristle, PIL, The Fall,
> Pere Ubu,  
> Residents, Eno - stuff with a great big DIY ethic. Then
> thirty years  
> later I buy a theremin and start browsing theremin sites.
> And there's  
> the stumbling block, right next to the starting block.
> Gotta play in  
> tune. Recommended course of action - learn the violin, get
> ear  
> training, get classically trained, practice your scales for
> a few  
> years and live in Russia for a while, hanging out with
> Lydia. Then  
> we'll find out if you're something special or
> another mediocre  
> classical thereminist.
> 
> It didn't appeal to me. Make no mistake - I've got
> a ton of respect  
> for the classical guys - that's a real challenge they
> take on, and  
> good luck to them, but I preferred a different challenge -
> what can I  
> do with a theremin that doesn't have the stumbling
> block and is more  
> like the music I like. Been at it three and a third years
> so far...
> 
> Gordon
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
> 
> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>

Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-25 by Gordon Charlton

Carvin - that is the perfect call to arms! Thank you. :-)

Also great to hear your story - when people write about stuff that  
genuinely excites them it comes through and its a bit contagious.

Gordon
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On 25 Feb 2009, at 01:21, carvin knowles wrote:

> Yeah, you can count me into that "Middle Field" space too.
>
> I'm glad for all you classical Thereminist, who help ad that kind  
> of validity to our instrument. To be certain, you guys help ensure  
> that the instrument will be studied by the "serious music"  
> community. I started out my life as a "serious" composer, with a  
> back-catalogue of dissonant orchestral works, so I get it.
>
> But when I took up the theremin, it was to use an instrument where  
> I had no classical technique, to play something appropriate with my  
> DJ friends, while they played Drum and Bass and House and Electro.  
> Sure, I can play in tune, but my technique would make Clara  
> Rockmore cringe. I play melodies. Riffs. Motifs. Fragments of  
> suggested orchestrations that trace the chord changes in some  
> dramatic way. I use long sweeps to carry one mix into another, I  
> create trills that widen into several octaves, I make bleeps and  
> noises that would make George Crumb proud.
>
> (Speaking of Crumb, some of you classical-heads should arrange a  
> performance of "Vox Bellanae" sometime. It is sure to bring our art  
> forward, if you use it in such a "modernist" ensemble)
>
> But my point is that as a Middle Field Thereminista, my style would  
> probably be called Electronic Jazz (a few years back I even played  
> at the House of Blues, New Orleans). I think I 'm with that part of  
> the Middle Field which makes the theremin socially relevant. The  
> way that Eric Satie performed in the Salons of Paris. The way that  
> Jazz took root in the brothels and underground dance clubs of New  
> Orleans and New York before it went mainstream.
>
> And yes, I also love the classical guys...and the novelties and the  
> academics and the headbangers. I can't get enough theremin, pretty  
> or ugly or funny. Just play the damn thing.
>
> And that is kinda the deal with a convention of this sort. The  
> "Middle Field" needs to show up and represent. It's you guys who  
> should be putting together the afterparties. The Jam sessions. It's  
> a convention, so bust out your cool stuff. Besides, if you learn  
> anything from the classical guys, you'll want to use it right away.
>
> Peace
>
> Carvin

Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-25 by carvin knowles

Yeah, if such a symposium were happening in New Zealand, you know I'd be there.


--- On Tue, 2/24/09, Gordon Charlton <gordonc@...> wrote:
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> From: Gordon Charlton <gordonc@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 6:11 PM
> Carvin - that is the perfect call to arms! Thank you. :-)
> 
> Also great to hear your story - when people write about
> stuff that  
> genuinely excites them it comes through and its a bit
> contagious.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 25 Feb 2009, at 01:21, carvin knowles wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, you can count me into that "Middle
> Field" space too.
> >
> > I'm glad for all you classical Thereminist, who
> help ad that kind  
> > of validity to our instrument. To be certain, you guys
> help ensure  
> > that the instrument will be studied by the
> "serious music"  
> > community. I started out my life as a
> "serious" composer, with a  
> > back-catalogue of dissonant orchestral works, so I get
> it.
> >
> > But when I took up the theremin, it was to use an
> instrument where  
> > I had no classical technique, to play something
> appropriate with my  
> > DJ friends, while they played Drum and Bass and House
> and Electro.  
> > Sure, I can play in tune, but my technique would make
> Clara  
> > Rockmore cringe. I play melodies. Riffs. Motifs.
> Fragments of  
> > suggested orchestrations that trace the chord changes
> in some  
> > dramatic way. I use long sweeps to carry one mix into
> another, I  
> > create trills that widen into several octaves, I make
> bleeps and  
> > noises that would make George Crumb proud.
> >
> > (Speaking of Crumb, some of you classical-heads should
> arrange a  
> > performance of "Vox Bellanae" sometime. It
> is sure to bring our art  
> > forward, if you use it in such a "modernist"
> ensemble)
> >
> > But my point is that as a Middle Field Thereminista,
> my style would  
> > probably be called Electronic Jazz (a few years back I
> even played  
> > at the House of Blues, New Orleans). I think I 'm
> with that part of  
> > the Middle Field which makes the theremin socially
> relevant. The  
> > way that Eric Satie performed in the Salons of Paris.
> The way that  
> > Jazz took root in the brothels and underground dance
> clubs of New  
> > Orleans and New York before it went mainstream.
> >
> > And yes, I also love the classical guys...and the
> novelties and the  
> > academics and the headbangers. I can't get enough
> theremin, pretty  
> > or ugly or funny. Just play the damn thing.
> >
> > And that is kinda the deal with a convention of this
> sort. The  
> > "Middle Field" needs to show up and
> represent. It's you guys who  
> > should be putting together the afterparties. The Jam
> sessions. It's  
> > a convention, so bust out your cool stuff. Besides, if
> you learn  
> > anything from the classical guys, you'll want to
> use it right away.
> >
> > Peace
> >
> > Carvin
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
> 
> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>

Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-25 by Joseph Swails

Thanks for the props, folks. It's nice to know I'm not alone with  
this way of thinking.

Like Gordon, I *can* play in tune - I've got a pretty good ear - but  
I take my inspiration from improvisational jazz solos and free-form  
vocal riffs like Pink Floyd's "Great Gig in the Sky", instead of  
Debussy nocturnes.   One of the first things I learned to play on my  
theremin was the theme from "Doctor Who."  (And as far as the violin  
goes, it was my first instrument - though I stopped playing when I  
was 11 years old.)

Like Carvin, I jam with my DJ friends, and create my own sequenced  
ambient grooves and play melody lines over them. I've got a Burns B3  
Deluxe and it has a great low end sound - swooping down from high  
wobbles to a floor rattling bass note gets a great crowd reaction! I  
flick the pitch antenna with my finger to get "laser shots", which  
would probably make Clara Rockmore scowl at me.

Jamming with DJs is great fun, especially with Trance, Ambient and  
Deep Bass grooves. That's a good way we "middle ground" theremin  
players can get out there and be heard by an audience.
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On Feb 24, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Gordon Charlton wrote:

> Carvin - that is the perfect call to arms! Thank you. :-)
>
> Also great to hear your story - when people write about stuff that
> genuinely excites them it comes through and its a bit contagious.
>
> Gordon
>
> On 25 Feb 2009, at 01:21, carvin knowles wrote:
>
>> Yeah, you can count me into that "Middle Field" space too.
>>
>> I'm glad for all you classical Thereminist, who help ad that kind
>> of validity to our instrument. To be certain, you guys help ensure
>> that the instrument will be studied by the "serious music"
>> community. I started out my life as a "serious" composer, with a
>> back-catalogue of dissonant orchestral works, so I get it.
>>
>> But when I took up the theremin, it was to use an instrument where
>> I had no classical technique, to play something appropriate with my
>> DJ friends, while they played Drum and Bass and House and Electro.
>> Sure, I can play in tune, but my technique would make Clara
>> Rockmore cringe. I play melodies. Riffs. Motifs. Fragments of
>> suggested orchestrations that trace the chord changes in some
>> dramatic way. I use long sweeps to carry one mix into another, I
>> create trills that widen into several octaves, I make bleeps and
>> noises that would make George Crumb proud.
>>
>> (Speaking of Crumb, some of you classical-heads should arrange a
>> performance of "Vox Bellanae" sometime. It is sure to bring our art
>> forward, if you use it in such a "modernist" ensemble)
>>
>> But my point is that as a Middle Field Thereminista, my style would
>> probably be called Electronic Jazz (a few years back I even played
>> at the House of Blues, New Orleans). I think I 'm with that part of
>> the Middle Field which makes the theremin socially relevant. The
>> way that Eric Satie performed in the Salons of Paris. The way that
>> Jazz took root in the brothels and underground dance clubs of New
>> Orleans and New York before it went mainstream.
>>
>> And yes, I also love the classical guys...and the novelties and the
>> academics and the headbangers. I can't get enough theremin, pretty
>> or ugly or funny. Just play the damn thing.
>>
>> And that is kinda the deal with a convention of this sort. The
>> "Middle Field" needs to show up and represent. It's you guys who
>> should be putting together the afterparties. The Jam sessions. It's
>> a convention, so bust out your cool stuff. Besides, if you learn
>> anything from the classical guys, you'll want to use it right away.
>>
>> Peace
>>
>> Carvin
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> AETHERPHON, the global thereminist community
>
> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-25 by Gordon Charlton

On 25 Feb 2009, at 06:03, Joseph Swails wrote:

> Thanks for the props, folks. It's nice to know I'm not alone with
> this way of thinking.
>
> Like Gordon, I *can* play in tune
>
I think you're confounding my with Carvin. I'm "don't play in tune -  
I might be able to but I never really tried - too busy finding ways  
not to need to"
> - I've got a pretty good ear - but
> I take my inspiration from improvisational jazz solos and free-form
> vocal riffs like Pink Floyd's "Great Gig in the Sky",
>

There's a midi file of Great Gig (without the vocals) - and a few  
other Floyd pieces - here...

http://www.innternet.de/~peter.patti/pfmidis.htm

It is great for improvising over.


Gordon

Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-25 by carvin knowles

Whatup Joseph!

Great Gig in the Sky was one of the tracks I performed at the HOB. Love that song and it's perfectly suited for Theremin.

Damn, you just gave away one of my secret weapons. Don't tell anyone else!.

--- On Tue, 2/24/09, Joseph Swails <j.swails@...> wrote:
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From: Joseph Swails <j.swails@...>
Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News
To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 10:03 PM

Thanks for the props, folks. It's nice to know I'm not alone with  
this way of thinking.

Like Gordon, I *can* play in tune - I've got a pretty good ear - but  
I take my inspiration from improvisational jazz solos and free-form  
vocal riffs like Pink Floyd's "Great Gig in the Sky", instead of 

Debussy nocturnes.   One of the first things I learned to play on my  
theremin was the theme from "Doctor Who."  (And as far as the violin 

goes, it was my first instrument - though I stopped playing when I  
was 11 years old.)

Like Carvin, I jam with my DJ friends, and create my own sequenced  
ambient grooves and play melody lines over them. I've got a Burns B3  
Deluxe and it has a great low end sound - swooping down from high  
wobbles to a floor rattling bass note gets a great crowd reaction! I  
flick the pitch antenna with my finger to get "laser shots", which  
would probably make Clara Rockmore scowl at me.

Jamming with DJs is great fun, especially with Trance, Ambient and  
Deep Bass grooves. That's a good way we "middle ground" theremin 

players can get out there and be heard by an audience.


On Feb 24, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Gordon Charlton wrote:

> Carvin - that is the perfect call to arms! Thank you. :-)
>
> Also great to hear your story - when people write about stuff that
> genuinely excites them it comes through and its a bit contagious.
>
> Gordon
>
> On 25 Feb 2009, at 01:21, carvin knowles wrote:
>
>> Yeah, you can count me into that "Middle Field" space too.
>>
>> I'm glad for all you classical Thereminist, who help ad that kind
>> of validity to our instrument. To be certain, you guys help ensure
>> that the instrument will be studied by the "serious music"
>> community. I started out my life as a "serious" composer,
with a
>> back-catalogue of dissonant orchestral works, so I get it.
>>
>> But when I took up the theremin, it was to use an instrument where
>> I had no classical technique, to play something appropriate with my
>> DJ friends, while they played Drum and Bass and House and Electro.
>> Sure, I can play in tune, but my technique would make Clara
>> Rockmore cringe. I play melodies. Riffs. Motifs. Fragments of
>> suggested orchestrations that trace the chord changes in some
>> dramatic way. I use long sweeps to carry one mix into another, I
>> create trills that widen into several octaves, I make bleeps and
>> noises that would make George Crumb proud.
>>
>> (Speaking of Crumb, some of you classical-heads should arrange a
>> performance of "Vox Bellanae" sometime. It is sure to bring
our art
>> forward, if you use it in such a "modernist" ensemble)
>>
>> But my point is that as a Middle Field Thereminista, my style would
>> probably be called Electronic Jazz (a few years back I even played
>> at the House of Blues, New Orleans). I think I 'm with that part
of
>> the Middle Field which makes the theremin socially relevant. The
>> way that Eric Satie performed in the Salons of Paris. The way that
>> Jazz took root in the brothels and underground dance clubs of New
>> Orleans and New York before it went mainstream.
>>
>> And yes, I also love the classical guys...and the novelties and the
>> academics and the headbangers. I can't get enough theremin, pretty
>> or ugly or funny. Just play the damn thing.
>>
>> And that is kinda the deal with a convention of this sort. The
>> "Middle Field" needs to show up and represent. It's you
guys who
>> should be putting together the afterparties. The Jam sessions.
It's
>> a convention, so bust out your cool stuff. Besides, if you learn
>> anything from the classical guys, you'll want to use it right
away.
>>
>> Peace
>>
>> Carvin
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Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-25 by Gordon Charlton

On 25 Feb 2009, at 10:01, carvin knowles wrote:

> Whatup Joseph!
>
> Great Gig in the Sky was one of the tracks I performed at the HOB.  
> Love that song and it's perfectly suited for Theremin.
>
> Damn, you just gave away one of my secret weapons. Don't tell  
> anyone else!.
>

It's OK, nobody's listening.

Oh, just remembered the other thing I meant to say re: freestyling  
over a techno beat...

I had a go at something like that recently to give my wah pedal a  
workout. Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zfRSuUS92E&fmt=18

(I don't know if that's a proper techno beat really, all those genre  
names are so confusing. Just something I cooked up in Garageband.)

So where can I hear some of your theremin stuff? I liked the non- 
theremin samples I heard on your website.


Gordon

Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-25 by Joseph Swails

On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Gordon Charlton wrote:

>
> On 25 Feb 2009, at 06:03, Joseph Swails wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the props, folks. It's nice to know I'm not alone with
>> this way of thinking.
>>
>> Like Gordon, I *can* play in tune.
>>
> I think you're confounding my with Carvin. I'm "don't play in tune -
> I might be able to but I never really tried - too busy finding ways
> not to need to"

Oops, my bad. So sorry!


>> - I've got a pretty good ear - but
>> I take my inspiration from improvisational jazz solos and free-form
>> vocal riffs like Pink Floyd's "Great Gig in the Sky",
>>
>
> There's a midi file of Great Gig (without the vocals) - and a few
> other Floyd pieces - here...
>
> http://www.innternet.de/~peter.patti/pfmidis.htm
>
> It is great for improvising over.

Thanks! I was trying to whip up my own version but this is better!
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Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-25 by Joseph Swails

On Feb 25, 2009, at 2:01 AM, carvin knowles wrote:

> Whatup Joseph!
>
> Great Gig in the Sky was one of the tracks I performed at the HOB.  
> Love that song and it's perfectly suited for Theremin.
>
> Damn, you just gave away one of my secret weapons. Don't tell  
> anyone else!.

The Doctor Who theme is a real crowd pleaser too, especially since  
the new revival series. Besides "Good Vibrations" (which everyone  
thinks is a theremin but isn't.) it's the track most people identify  
with a theremin.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Joseph Swails <j.swails@...> wrote:
> From: Joseph Swails <j.swails@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 10:03 PM
>
> Thanks for the props, folks. It's nice to know I'm not alone with
> this way of thinking.
>
> Like Gordon, I *can* play in tune - I've got a pretty good ear - but
> I take my inspiration from improvisational jazz solos and free-form
> vocal riffs like Pink Floyd's "Great Gig in the Sky", instead of
>
> Debussy nocturnes.   One of the first things I learned to play on my
> theremin was the theme from "Doctor Who."  (And as far as the violin
>
> goes, it was my first instrument - though I stopped playing when I
> was 11 years old.)
>
> Like Carvin, I jam with my DJ friends, and create my own sequenced
> ambient grooves and play melody lines over them. I've got a Burns B3
> Deluxe and it has a great low end sound - swooping down from high
> wobbles to a floor rattling bass note gets a great crowd reaction! I
> flick the pitch antenna with my finger to get "laser shots", which
> would probably make Clara Rockmore scowl at me.
>
> Jamming with DJs is great fun, especially with Trance, Ambient and
> Deep Bass grooves. That's a good way we "middle ground" theremin
>
> players can get out there and be heard by an audience.
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Gordon Charlton wrote:
>
>> Carvin - that is the perfect call to arms! Thank you. :-)
>>
>> Also great to hear your story - when people write about stuff that
>> genuinely excites them it comes through and its a bit contagious.
>>
>> Gordon
>>
>> On 25 Feb 2009, at 01:21, carvin knowles wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, you can count me into that "Middle Field" space too.
>>>
>>> I'm glad for all you classical Thereminist, who help ad that kind
>>> of validity to our instrument. To be certain, you guys help ensure
>>> that the instrument will be studied by the "serious music"
>>> community. I started out my life as a "serious" composer,
> with a
>>> back-catalogue of dissonant orchestral works, so I get it.
>>>
>>> But when I took up the theremin, it was to use an instrument where
>>> I had no classical technique, to play something appropriate with my
>>> DJ friends, while they played Drum and Bass and House and Electro.
>>> Sure, I can play in tune, but my technique would make Clara
>>> Rockmore cringe. I play melodies. Riffs. Motifs. Fragments of
>>> suggested orchestrations that trace the chord changes in some
>>> dramatic way. I use long sweeps to carry one mix into another, I
>>> create trills that widen into several octaves, I make bleeps and
>>> noises that would make George Crumb proud.
>>>
>>> (Speaking of Crumb, some of you classical-heads should arrange a
>>> performance of "Vox Bellanae" sometime. It is sure to bring
> our art
>>> forward, if you use it in such a "modernist" ensemble)
>>>
>>> But my point is that as a Middle Field Thereminista, my style would
>>> probably be called Electronic Jazz (a few years back I even played
>>> at the House of Blues, New Orleans). I think I 'm with that part
> of
>>> the Middle Field which makes the theremin socially relevant. The
>>> way that Eric Satie performed in the Salons of Paris. The way that
>>> Jazz took root in the brothels and underground dance clubs of New
>>> Orleans and New York before it went mainstream.
>>>
>>> And yes, I also love the classical guys...and the novelties and the
>>> academics and the headbangers. I can't get enough theremin, pretty
>>> or ugly or funny. Just play the damn thing.
>>>
>>> And that is kinda the deal with a convention of this sort. The
>>> "Middle Field" needs to show up and represent. It's you
> guys who
>>> should be putting together the afterparties. The Jam sessions.
> It's
>>> a convention, so bust out your cool stuff. Besides, if you learn
>>> anything from the classical guys, you'll want to use it right
> away.
>>>
>>> Peace
>>>
>>> Carvin
>>
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Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-25 by dbohn@ticon.net

It might be a theremin on the current incarnation, but
I'm pretty certain the original version did not use 
a theremin-- I don't think that the BBC Radiophonic
Workshop had one, and my understanding from a book
(I don't have it at work) is that each note was individually
recorded and then edited together by Delia Derbyshire.

David Bohn

--- j.swails@... wrote:
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From: Joseph Swails <j.swails@...>
To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:24:45 -0800


On Feb 25, 2009, at 2:01 AM, carvin knowles wrote:

> Whatup Joseph!
>
> Great Gig in the Sky was one of the tracks I performed at the HOB.  
> Love that song and it's perfectly suited for Theremin.
>
> Damn, you just gave away one of my secret weapons. Don't tell  
> anyone else!.

The Doctor Who theme is a real crowd pleaser too, especially since  
the new revival series. Besides "Good Vibrations" (which everyone  
thinks is a theremin but isn't.) it's the track most people identify  
with a theremin.




>
> --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Joseph Swails <j.swails@...> wrote:
> From: Joseph Swails <j.swails@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 10:03 PM
>
> Thanks for the props, folks. It's nice to know I'm not alone with
> this way of thinking.
>
> Like Gordon, I *can* play in tune - I've got a pretty good ear - but
> I take my inspiration from improvisational jazz solos and free-form
> vocal riffs like Pink Floyd's "Great Gig in the Sky", instead of
>
> Debussy nocturnes.   One of the first things I learned to play on my
> theremin was the theme from "Doctor Who."  (And as far as the violin
>
> goes, it was my first instrument - though I stopped playing when I
> was 11 years old.)
>
> Like Carvin, I jam with my DJ friends, and create my own sequenced
> ambient grooves and play melody lines over them. I've got a Burns B3
> Deluxe and it has a great low end sound - swooping down from high
> wobbles to a floor rattling bass note gets a great crowd reaction! I
> flick the pitch antenna with my finger to get "laser shots", which
> would probably make Clara Rockmore scowl at me.
>
> Jamming with DJs is great fun, especially with Trance, Ambient and
> Deep Bass grooves. That's a good way we "middle ground" theremin
>
> players can get out there and be heard by an audience.
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Gordon Charlton wrote:
>
>> Carvin - that is the perfect call to arms! Thank you. :-)
>>
>> Also great to hear your story - when people write about stuff that
>> genuinely excites them it comes through and its a bit contagious.
>>
>> Gordon
>>
>> On 25 Feb 2009, at 01:21, carvin knowles wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, you can count me into that "Middle Field" space too.
>>>
>>> I'm glad for all you classical Thereminist, who help ad that kind
>>> of validity to our instrument. To be certain, you guys help ensure
>>> that the instrument will be studied by the "serious music"
>>> community. I started out my life as a "serious" composer,
> with a
>>> back-catalogue of dissonant orchestral works, so I get it.
>>>
>>> But when I took up the theremin, it was to use an instrument where
>>> I had no classical technique, to play something appropriate with my
>>> DJ friends, while they played Drum and Bass and House and Electro.
>>> Sure, I can play in tune, but my technique would make Clara
>>> Rockmore cringe. I play melodies. Riffs. Motifs. Fragments of
>>> suggested orchestrations that trace the chord changes in some
>>> dramatic way. I use long sweeps to carry one mix into another, I
>>> create trills that widen into several octaves, I make bleeps and
>>> noises that would make George Crumb proud.
>>>
>>> (Speaking of Crumb, some of you classical-heads should arrange a
>>> performance of "Vox Bellanae" sometime. It is sure to bring
> our art
>>> forward, if you use it in such a "modernist" ensemble)
>>>
>>> But my point is that as a Middle Field Thereminista, my style would
>>> probably be called Electronic Jazz (a few years back I even played
>>> at the House of Blues, New Orleans). I think I 'm with that part
> of
>>> the Middle Field which makes the theremin socially relevant. The
>>> way that Eric Satie performed in the Salons of Paris. The way that
>>> Jazz took root in the brothels and underground dance clubs of New
>>> Orleans and New York before it went mainstream.
>>>
>>> And yes, I also love the classical guys...and the novelties and the
>>> academics and the headbangers. I can't get enough theremin, pretty
>>> or ugly or funny. Just play the damn thing.
>>>
>>> And that is kinda the deal with a convention of this sort. The
>>> "Middle Field" needs to show up and represent. It's you
> guys who
>>> should be putting together the afterparties. The Jam sessions.
> It's
>>> a convention, so bust out your cool stuff. Besides, if you learn
>>> anything from the classical guys, you'll want to use it right
> away.
>>>
>>> Peace
>>>
>>> Carvin
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-26 by Joseph Swails

The sequenced version I play with is based on Derbyshire's  
arrangement. It's the least "dense" arrangement, so it lends itself  
to pure electronic sounds and leaves some "space" around it for the  
melody line. I like the new version but it's really meant to be fully  
orchestrated.
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On Feb 25, 2009, at 8:37 AM, <dbohn@...> wrote:

> It might be a theremin on the current incarnation, but
> I'm pretty certain the original version did not use
> a theremin-- I don't think that the BBC Radiophonic
> Workshop had one, and my understanding from a book
> (I don't have it at work) is that each note was individually
> recorded and then edited together by Delia Derbyshire.
>
> David Bohn
>
> --- j.swails@... wrote:
>
> From: Joseph Swails <j.swails@...>
> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:24:45 -0800
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 2:01 AM, carvin knowles wrote:
>
>> Whatup Joseph!
>>
>> Great Gig in the Sky was one of the tracks I performed at the HOB.
>> Love that song and it's perfectly suited for Theremin.
>>
>> Damn, you just gave away one of my secret weapons. Don't tell
>> anyone else!.
>
> The Doctor Who theme is a real crowd pleaser too, especially since
> the new revival series. Besides "Good Vibrations" (which everyone
> thinks is a theremin but isn't.) it's the track most people identify
> with a theremin.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Joseph Swails <j.swails@...> wrote:
>> From: Joseph Swails <j.swails@...>
>> Subject: Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News
>> To: aetherphon@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 10:03 PM
>>
>> Thanks for the props, folks. It's nice to know I'm not alone with
>> this way of thinking.
>>
>> Like Gordon, I *can* play in tune - I've got a pretty good ear - but
>> I take my inspiration from improvisational jazz solos and free-form
>> vocal riffs like Pink Floyd's "Great Gig in the Sky", instead of
>>
>> Debussy nocturnes.   One of the first things I learned to play on my
>> theremin was the theme from "Doctor Who."  (And as far as the violin
>>
>> goes, it was my first instrument - though I stopped playing when I
>> was 11 years old.)
>>
>> Like Carvin, I jam with my DJ friends, and create my own sequenced
>> ambient grooves and play melody lines over them. I've got a Burns B3
>> Deluxe and it has a great low end sound - swooping down from high
>> wobbles to a floor rattling bass note gets a great crowd reaction! I
>> flick the pitch antenna with my finger to get "laser shots", which
>> would probably make Clara Rockmore scowl at me.
>>
>> Jamming with DJs is great fun, especially with Trance, Ambient and
>> Deep Bass grooves. That's a good way we "middle ground" theremin
>>
>> players can get out there and be heard by an audience.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Gordon Charlton wrote:
>>
>>> Carvin - that is the perfect call to arms! Thank you. :-)
>>>
>>> Also great to hear your story - when people write about stuff that
>>> genuinely excites them it comes through and its a bit contagious.
>>>
>>> Gordon
>>>
>>> On 25 Feb 2009, at 01:21, carvin knowles wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, you can count me into that "Middle Field" space too.
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad for all you classical Thereminist, who help ad that kind
>>>> of validity to our instrument. To be certain, you guys help ensure
>>>> that the instrument will be studied by the "serious music"
>>>> community. I started out my life as a "serious" composer,
>> with a
>>>> back-catalogue of dissonant orchestral works, so I get it.
>>>>
>>>> But when I took up the theremin, it was to use an instrument where
>>>> I had no classical technique, to play something appropriate with my
>>>> DJ friends, while they played Drum and Bass and House and Electro.
>>>> Sure, I can play in tune, but my technique would make Clara
>>>> Rockmore cringe. I play melodies. Riffs. Motifs. Fragments of
>>>> suggested orchestrations that trace the chord changes in some
>>>> dramatic way. I use long sweeps to carry one mix into another, I
>>>> create trills that widen into several octaves, I make bleeps and
>>>> noises that would make George Crumb proud.
>>>>
>>>> (Speaking of Crumb, some of you classical-heads should arrange a
>>>> performance of "Vox Bellanae" sometime. It is sure to bring
>> our art
>>>> forward, if you use it in such a "modernist" ensemble)
>>>>
>>>> But my point is that as a Middle Field Thereminista, my style would
>>>> probably be called Electronic Jazz (a few years back I even played
>>>> at the House of Blues, New Orleans). I think I 'm with that part
>> of
>>>> the Middle Field which makes the theremin socially relevant. The
>>>> way that Eric Satie performed in the Salons of Paris. The way that
>>>> Jazz took root in the brothels and underground dance clubs of New
>>>> Orleans and New York before it went mainstream.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, I also love the classical guys...and the novelties and the
>>>> academics and the headbangers. I can't get enough theremin, pretty
>>>> or ugly or funny. Just play the damn thing.
>>>>
>>>> And that is kinda the deal with a convention of this sort. The
>>>> "Middle Field" needs to show up and represent. It's you
>> guys who
>>>> should be putting together the afterparties. The Jam sessions.
>> It's
>>>> a convention, so bust out your cool stuff. Besides, if you learn
>>>> anything from the classical guys, you'll want to use it right
>> away.
>>>>
>>>> Peace
>>>>
>>>> Carvin
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
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>>> To contact the moderator, e-mail porphyrous@...
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>>>
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Re: [Aetherphon] Re:Hands Off 2009 - Big News

2009-02-26 by Gordon Charlton

On 25 Feb 2009, at 16:37, <dbohn@...> <dbohn@...> wrote:

> It might be a theremin on the current incarnation, but
> I'm pretty certain the original version did not use
> a theremin-- I don't think that the BBC Radiophonic
> Workshop had one, and my understanding from a book
> (I don't have it at work) is that each note was individually
> recorded and then edited together by Delia Derbyshire.
>
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From: Joseph Swails <j.swails@...>

>> The Doctor Who theme is a real crowd pleaser too, especially since  
>> the new revival series. Besides "Good Vibrations" (which everyone  
>> thinks is a theremin but isn't.) it's the track most people  
>> identify with a theremin.
>>
I'm pretty sure Dr Who still doesn't have a theremin.

I've had the following conversation more than once.

"So what does it sound like?"

Do you know The Day The Earth Stood Still?

"No"

That's got a theremin.   [repeat for Spellbound, Midsommer Murders]

How about Good Vibrations?

"Yes"

That's not a theremin.  [repeat for Doctor Who, Star Trek]



I think the theremin might be unique in being best known for not  
being used.



Gordon

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