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Beginner My first AKAI

Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-08 by pillerlaszlo

HI all.

I have been a lucky owner of this monster keyboard S1000KB.
Photos vill follow...
Until now I've only worked with emu samplers.

Can anyone help me how to find the CD ROM drive on the sampler and load banks from Akai CD ROM s?

friendly AKAI greetings.

Laszlo

Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-08 by PeWe


The Akai S-1xxx series samplers are picky on CD-ROMs.
Try to find a used SCSI CD-ROM w/ 2x or 4x speed.
Old Apple and TEAC work.

I´ve just set up an old 19" Synthax Syndrive and a Kronauer Pro Rack Series 19" drive w/ CD-ROM & 1GB harddrive formatted to 520meg.
Both work like a charme now.
In the Kronauer I used a old Apple drive w/ a caddy.

I hope to get my Fujitsu MOD, which uses 230 and 640meg media, to run w/ my Akai S-1000/1100 too.

Am 08.03.2010 23:27, schrieb pillerlaszlo:
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HI all.

I have been a lucky owner of this monster keyboard S1000KB.
Photos vill follow...
Until now I've only worked with emu samplers.

Can anyone help me how to find the CD ROM drive on the sampler and load banks from Akai CD ROM s?

friendly AKAI greetings.

Laszlo


Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by Ben Clark Jr

If you need a drive I may still have a couple laying around. Ever since I started using Reason a few years ago
My S1000 has been collecting dust.


Ben




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From: PeWe <ha-pewe@...>
To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 6:44:53 PM
Subject: Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Beginner My first AKAI

  

The Akai S-1xxx series samplers are picky on CD-ROMs.
Try to find a used SCSI CD-ROM w/ 2x or 4x speed.
Old Apple and TEAC work.

I´ve just set up an old 19" Synthax Syndrive and a Kronauer Pro Rack
Series 19" drive w/ CD-ROM & 1GB harddrive formatted to 520meg.
Both work like a charme now.
In the Kronauer I used a old Apple drive w/ a caddy.

I hope to get my Fujitsu MOD, which uses 230 and 640meg media, to run
w/ my Akai S-1000/1100 too.

Am 08.03.2010 23:27, schrieb pillerlaszlo: 
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  > 
>HI all.
>
>>I have been a lucky owner of this monster keyboard S1000KB.
>>Photos vill follow...
>>Until now I've only worked with emu samplers.
>
>>Can anyone help me how to find the CD ROM drive on the sampler and load
>banks from Akai CD ROM s?
>
>>friendly AKAI greetings.
>
>>Laszlo
>

Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by kevin tobler

Does your akai s1000 have the digital outputs by any chance?  If so, would you sell them to me?

--- On Tue, 3/9/10, Ben Clark Jr <benfclark@yahoo.com> wrote:
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      If you need a drive I may still have a couple laying around. Ever since I started using Reason a few years ago
My S1000 has been collecting dust.


Ben

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To: akaiS1000S1100Sampl ers@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 6:44:53 PM
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The Akai S-1xxx series samplers are picky on CD-ROMs.

Try to find a used SCSI CD-ROM w/ 2x or 4x speed.

Old Apple and TEAC work.



I´ve just set up an old 19" Synthax Syndrive and a Kronauer Pro Rack
Series 19" drive w/ CD-ROM & 1GB harddrive formatted to 520meg.

Both work like a charme now.

In the Kronauer I used a old Apple drive w/ a caddy.



I hope to get my Fujitsu MOD, which uses 230 and 640meg media, to run
w/ my Akai S-1000/1100 too.



Am 08.03.2010 23:27, schrieb pillerlaszlo:
 

  
  HI all.

  

I have been a lucky owner of this monster keyboard S1000KB.

Photos vill follow...

Until now I've only worked with emu samplers.

  

Can anyone help me how to find the CD ROM drive on the sampler and load
banks from Akai CD ROM s?

  

friendly AKAI greetings.

  

Laszlo

Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by PeWe

Ben,- some O.T. ...

I�m starting using Reason again on a separate PC and my Akais and 
libraries (floppy disks and CDs as well as harddrives) are still here.

Did you manage to convert all your Akai library floppies and CDs packing 
as Refills w/ Refill Packer that way these are usable like the real 
thing without issues ?
And,- are you a Record user meanwhile too ?
I�m thinking about the upgrade but don�t know if the Record/Reason combo 
will run on a dual core 3.4GHz machine at all and/or in real world and 
w/ some headroom left.
Or,- do I need a quad core to run the Record/ Reason combo satisfying ?

PeWe


Am 09.03.2010 06:04, schrieb Ben Clark Jr:
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> If you need a drive I may still have a couple laying around. Ever 
> since I started using Reason a few years ago
> My S1000 has been collecting dust.
>
>
> Ben
>

Re: Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by pillerlaszlo

Thank You all for responding.

I have the CD ROM drive, but can not quite navigate the AKAI's menu.
Should I be able to see more hard drives in the disc menu?
Is there a similar function as on emu samplers called  "mount" drives?
Has been successfully format two hard drives. But every time I turn off the AKAI, can not remember the external hard disk ID.
Therefore it must have a floppy in the tail.

Sincerely, Laszlo

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, PeWe <ha-pewe@...> wrote:
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>
> Ben,- some O.T. ...
> 
> I´m starting using Reason again on a separate PC and my Akais and 
> libraries (floppy disks and CDs as well as harddrives) are still here.
> 
> Did you manage to convert all your Akai library floppies and CDs packing 
> as Refills w/ Refill Packer that way these are usable like the real 
> thing without issues ?
> And,- are you a Record user meanwhile too ?
> I´m thinking about the upgrade but don´t know if the Record/Reason combo 
> will run on a dual core 3.4GHz machine at all and/or in real world and 
> w/ some headroom left.
> Or,- do I need a quad core to run the Record/ Reason combo satisfying ?
> 
> PeWe
> 
> 
> Am 09.03.2010 06:04, schrieb Ben Clark Jr:
> > If you need a drive I may still have a couple laying around. Ever 
> > since I started using Reason a few years ago
> > My S1000 has been collecting dust.
> >
> >
> > Ben
> >
>

RE: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Re: Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by Ullrich Peter

Don't you have a manual for your sampler?
At least a S1000 Manual can be found on the web in PDF format that could help.

Ciao
Peter
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From: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pillerlaszlo
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:34 AM
To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Re: Beginner My first AKAI

Thank You all for responding.

I have the CD ROM drive, but can not quite navigate the AKAI's menu.
Should I be able to see more hard drives in the disc menu?
Is there a similar function as on emu samplers called  "mount" drives?
Has been successfully format two hard drives. But every time I turn off the AKAI, can not remember the external hard disk ID.
Therefore it must have a floppy in the tail.

Sincerely, Laszlo

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, PeWe <ha-pewe@...> wrote:
>
> Ben,- some O.T. ...
> 
> I´m starting using Reason again on a separate PC and my Akais and 
> libraries (floppy disks and CDs as well as harddrives) are still here.
> 
> Did you manage to convert all your Akai library floppies and CDs packing 
> as Refills w/ Refill Packer that way these are usable like the real 
> thing without issues ?
> And,- are you a Record user meanwhile too ?
> I´m thinking about the upgrade but don´t know if the Record/Reason combo 
> will run on a dual core 3.4GHz machine at all and/or in real world and 
> w/ some headroom left.
> Or,- do I need a quad core to run the Record/ Reason combo satisfying ?
> 
> PeWe
> 
> 
> Am 09.03.2010 06:04, schrieb Ben Clark Jr:
> > If you need a drive I may still have a couple laying around. Ever 
> > since I started using Reason a few years ago
> > My S1000 has been collecting dust.
> >
> >
> > Ben
> >
>




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Re: Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by pillerlaszlo

Hi Peter

I have the S1000 manual but are unsure whether it is 100% accurate to keyboard version.
I do not think that that says something about how to connect a CD ROM drive.
Just started to clean the sampler inside. Checking the version number afterwards but I think that it is 4.3.

Regards Laszlo

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> Don't you have a manual for your sampler?
> At least a S1000 Manual can be found on the web in PDF format that could help.
> 
> Ciao
> Peter
> 
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> From: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pillerlaszlo
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:34 AM
> To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Re: Beginner My first AKAI
> 
> Thank You all for responding.
> 
> I have the CD ROM drive, but can not quite navigate the AKAI's menu.
> Should I be able to see more hard drives in the disc menu?
> Is there a similar function as on emu samplers called  "mount" drives?
> Has been successfully format two hard drives. But every time I turn off the AKAI, can not remember the external hard disk ID.
> Therefore it must have a floppy in the tail.
> 
> Sincerely, Laszlo
> 
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, PeWe <ha-pewe@> wrote:
> >
> > Ben,- some O.T. ...
> > 
> > I´m starting using Reason again on a separate PC and my Akais and 
> > libraries (floppy disks and CDs as well as harddrives) are still here.
> > 
> > Did you manage to convert all your Akai library floppies and CDs packing 
> > as Refills w/ Refill Packer that way these are usable like the real 
> > thing without issues ?
> > And,- are you a Record user meanwhile too ?
> > I´m thinking about the upgrade but don´t know if the Record/Reason combo 
> > will run on a dual core 3.4GHz machine at all and/or in real world and 
> > w/ some headroom left.
> > Or,- do I need a quad core to run the Record/ Reason combo satisfying ?
> > 
> > PeWe
> > 
> > 
> > Am 09.03.2010 06:04, schrieb Ben Clark Jr:
> > > If you need a drive I may still have a couple laying around. Ever 
> > > since I started using Reason a few years ago
> > > My S1000 has been collecting dust.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> >
> 
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Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Re: Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by PeWe


You have to do a search for the AKAI IB-103 SCSI Interface board manual -

and if you have digital I/Os in addition i the keyboards version of the S-1000,- search for IB-104 Interface manual too.

maybe these are in the files section,- don´t know.


Am 09.03.2010 11:03, schrieb pillerlaszlo:
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Hi Peter

I have the S1000 manual but are unsure whether it is 100% accurate to keyboard version.
I do not think that that says something about how to connect a CD ROM drive.
Just started to clean the sampler inside. Checking the version number afterwards but I think that it is 4.3.

Regards Laszlo


Re: Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by pillerlaszlo

Hello again

Yes it is expanded with SCSI and digital I O module.
Dnfortunately can not find the AKAI IB-103 SCSI interface board manual.
Is there anyone who is in with it?

Regards Laszlo

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, PeWe <ha-pewe@...> wrote:
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>
> 
> You have to do a search for the AKAI IB-103 SCSI Interface board manual -
> 
> and if you have digital I/Os in addition i the keyboards version of the 
> S-1000,- search for IB-104 Interface manual too.
> 
> maybe these are in the files section,- don´t know.
> 
> 
> Am 09.03.2010 11:03, schrieb pillerlaszlo:
> >
> > Hi Peter
> >
> > I have the S1000 manual but are unsure whether it is 100% accurate to 
> > keyboard version.
> > I do not think that that says something about how to connect a CD ROM 
> > drive.
> > Just started to clean the sampler inside. Checking the version number 
> > afterwards but I think that it is 4.3.
> >
> > Regards Laszlo
> >
>

Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Re: Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by PeWe


1.)
Which CD-ROM do you have ? Brand and type ...
Is it compatible ? 2-4x speed, simply SCSI, not SCSI 2, ultra or ultra-wide etc. ?

2.)
Akai S-1000 is always on SCSI ID 6,- so set your CD-ROM to any other ID.
On the back of the CD-ROM (not the enclosure where it might be built in) there is a guide for jumper settings for IDs.
If it´s built into a external SCSI enlosure, you might find switches to set the ID.

Same rules for SCSI termination.
If your CD-Rom is the only one or last device in the SCSI chain,- it has to be terminated.
This eventually can be done w/ a jumper or a tremination resistor too w/ your CD-Rom drive alone, or a termination plug for your SCSI enclosure might be needed.
There are also enclosurs w/ switchable termination.

3.)
Connect the CD-ROM drive and power it up

4.
Power up your S-1000,- it will say something like "waiting for harddisk ready" (you can skip at this point if you don´t want to load from a mass storage device).

5.)
Look into your S-1000 manual and follow the steps to access any SCSI harddrive, i.e. set the right SCSI-ID for the SCSI drive which should match the ID of the SCSI-CD-ROM-drive.

6.)
On the S-1000, go to the (harddisk) load menue and look for content (be sure to have a Akai compatible library CD insterted into the CD-ROM drive).

7.)
If you see nothing or if it doesn´t load anything, there´s something wrong like incompatible drive, damaged IB-103 SCSI board, wrong disk, faulty SCSI wirering of the SCSI-drive enclosure,- bad SCSI cable, bad termination,- or you do mistakes.

8.)
please read the manual of your S-1000KB how to access, read & write mass storage devices

9.)
be patient and google for the IB-103 and 104 manuals,- these are somewhere in the web.

10.)

good luck

:-)



Am 09.03.2010 11:21, schrieb pillerlaszlo:
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Hello again

Yes it is expanded with SCSI and digital I O module.
Dnfortunately can not find the AKAI IB-103 SCSI interface board manual.
Is there anyone who is in with it?

Regards Laszlo


Re: Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by pillerlaszlo

Hello AKAI user

The images are uploaded as promised.

First, I would commend the AKAI for top quality, they chose to use.
S1000KB is built like a tank. Maybe that is why it is so heavy.
My CD ROM is from toshiba model:5301B, and it works with all my other samplers.

Unfortunately, work calls so I can only continue my AKAI story later tonight.

Regards Laszlo

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, PeWe <ha-pewe@...> wrote:
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> 
> 1.)
> Which CD-ROM do you have ? Brand and type ...
> Is it compatible ? 2-4x speed, simply SCSI, not SCSI 2, ultra or 
> ultra-wide etc. ?
> 
> 2.)
> Akai S-1000 is always on SCSI ID 6,- so set your CD-ROM to any other ID.
> On the back of the CD-ROM (not the enclosure where it might be built in) 
> there is a guide for jumper settings for IDs.
> If it´s built into a external SCSI enlosure, you might find switches to 
> set the ID.
> 
> Same rules for SCSI termination.
> If your CD-Rom is the only one or last device in the SCSI chain,- it has 
> to be terminated.
> This eventually can be done w/ a jumper or a tremination resistor too w/ 
> your CD-Rom drive alone, or a termination plug for your SCSI enclosure 
> might be needed.
> There are also enclosurs w/ switchable termination.
> 
> 3.)
> Connect the CD-ROM drive and power it up
> 
> 4.
> Power up your S-1000,- it will say something like "waiting for harddisk 
> ready" (you can skip at this point if you don´t want to load from a mass 
> storage device).
> 
> 5.)
> Look into your S-1000 manual and follow the steps to access any SCSI 
> harddrive, i.e. set the right SCSI-ID for the SCSI drive which should 
> match the ID of the SCSI-CD-ROM-drive.
> 
> 6.)
> On the S-1000, go to the (harddisk) load menue and look for content (be 
> sure to have a Akai compatible library CD insterted into the CD-ROM drive).
> 
> 7.)
> If you see nothing or if it doesn´t load anything, there´s something 
> wrong like incompatible drive, damaged IB-103 SCSI board, wrong disk, 
> faulty SCSI wirering of the SCSI-drive enclosure,- bad SCSI cable, bad 
> termination,- or you do mistakes.
> 
> 8.)
> please read the manual of your S-1000KB how to access, read & write mass 
> storage devices
> 
> 9.)
> be patient and google for the IB-103 and 104 manuals,- these are 
> somewhere in the web.
> 
> 10.)
> 
> good luck
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> 
> Am 09.03.2010 11:21, schrieb pillerlaszlo:
> >
> > Hello again
> >
> > Yes it is expanded with SCSI and digital I O module.
> > Dnfortunately can not find the AKAI IB-103 SCSI interface board manual.
> > Is there anyone who is in with it?
> >
> > Regards Laszlo
> >
>

Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Re: Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by PeWe

If CD-Roms work w/ all other samplers or not, doesn´t mean it has to work w/ S-1000 too.

EMU, Kurzweil, Yamaha as well as higher Akai series samplers deal w/ more modern CD-ROMS and RWs too.

I had cases w/ some 4x speed CD-ROMs which doesn´t work,- it´s a bit trial n error unfortunally.

Actually, I have one CD-ROM here which is working for sure with other devices and it´s 4 speed SCSI,- but it dooesn´t work w/ the S-1000/S-1100.

Looked at the specs of the 5301B,- specs look good, but ...?

I´ve read somewhere, drive technology should be SONY based (but I´m not totally sure if it was SONY or not),- but in any case, there´s something special.
It definitely works w/ some old Apple and TEAC drives w/ S-1000, S-1000PB and S-1100,- I own all three w/ latest OS.


Am 09.03.2010 13:05, schrieb pillerlaszlo:
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My CD ROM is from toshiba model:5301B, and it works with all my other samplers.

Unfortunately, work calls so I can only continue my AKAI story later tonight.

Regards Laszlo


Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by Ben Clark Jr

Pewe

I didn't have a huge library. I was pulling from CDs. There is a good little app call CDXtract that will convert them to wav. . As far as Record goes I'm on the fence. The beta  ran ok on my 2,8GH Dual Core Pentium with 2GB of Ram.
 My cousin said Record uses a usb key to authorize. I like to rewire into Ableton Live and 
save the projoect as rendered wavs then I can open the individual tracks in ProTools or any other DAW and they will all be in sync.


Ben


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From: PeWe <ha-pewe@gmx.de>
To: akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 2:13:07 AM
Subject: Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Beginner My first AKAI

  
Ben,- some O.T. ...

I´m starting using Reason again on a separate PC and my Akais and
libraries (floppy disks and CDs as well as harddrives) are still here.

Did you manage to convert all your Akai library floppies and CDs
packing as Refills w/ Refill Packer that way these are usable like the
real thing without issues ?
And,- are you a Record user meanwhile too ?
I´m thinking about the upgrade but don´t know if the Record/Reason
combo will run on a dual core 3.4GHz machine at all and/or in real
world and w/ some headroom left.
Or,- do I need a quad core to run the Record/ Reason combo satisfying ?

PeWe


Am 09.03.2010 06:04, schrieb Ben Clark Jr: 
  > 
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>If you need a drive I may still have a couple laying around.
>Ever since I started using Reason a few years ago
>>My S1000 has been collecting dust.
>
>
>>Ben
>
>

Re: [akaiS1000S1100Samplers] Beginner My first AKAI

2010-03-09 by PeWe

>>>

Am 09.03.2010 13:39, schrieb Ben Clark Jr:
> Pewe
Hi Ben !
>
> I didn't have a huge library. I was pulling from CDs.

Yes, the larger amount of my library is on CDs too,- but there are also 
many floppies around here.
I tried floppies (Refill Packer 4 accepts floppies !) and CDs w/ Refill 
Packer 4, and it works,- but I got some weird folder structure within 
the Refill w/ some CDs, resulting in some empty folders too.

Maybe I made a mistake, but I never found out how to load the result 
into Reasons samplers in one go and that way it works like in a Akai 
without time consuming editing.

> There is a good little app call CDXtract that will convert them to wav.
Yes, I used that too for other soft samplers like Halion and it worked,- 
but I want to get rid of Halion (I have Kontakt too and it�s better).
But I got probs converting EMU CDs w/ CDXtract for Halion, had samples 
in different folders separated by velocity values/layers.
I have a over 500GB sample library here and did it for Halion,- it was 
endless work and I don�t want to do it again w/ CDXtract.

I also doubt, converting w/ CDXtract results in correct multi-sampling 
key mappings for Reason samplers, but only wav samples you have to remap 
then in Reason.
Not the work I�d prefer.
> . As far as Record goes I'm on the fence. The beta  ran ok on my 2,8GH 
> Dual Core Pentium with 2GB of Ram.
Pentium D or Core2Duo ?????

I just set up a DAW w/ a older Pentium D 945 3,4Ghz /FSB800/4MB cache 
and 4gigs of RAM,- will be finished today so I can start installations.
If it runs Record, for me it might be worth the upgrade.
I could install the Record demo, but I�m not sure it will give the real 
world results, so I hoped to get some true user info eventually.
>  My cousin said Record uses a usb key to authorize.
Yes ! But it works without the key after it�s authorized too AFAIK. The 
Propellerheads deal differnet w/ the authorisation and compard to the 
other systems like iLok/PACE, Syncrosoft and eLicencer.
With Reason 5, we�ll see the dongle too, I�m sure.
The question will be which upgrade one wants to pay,- the one for Record 
or the one for Reason.
I�m sure, the next free Record update updates Reason too if you already 
own Reason 4 and Record.
> I like to rewire into Ableton Live and
> save the projoect as rendered wavs then I can open the individual 
> tracks in ProTools or any other DAW and they will all be in sync.
Well, that�s the way of work I did before too, using Cubase SX3 and I�m 
evaluating Reaper now and in addition.

I was satisfied w/ the stability of Reason 4 always, so my idea was/is, 
to set up both, Reason & Record, on a separate machine, do the 
recordings and export to anywhere for whatever I like to do what Record 
cannot do then.
In addition, Record seems to improve Reason for multi core processing.

So, I�d like to be able to use my Akai format sampling instruments (not 
just pure samples) in Reason,- just because it�s so stable and CPU friendly.
>
> Ben
PeWe
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