Akai S1000 / S1100 samplers

hello

I've just bought s1100 with malfunctioning diskdrive...
What's best idea - buy scsi ZIP drive, HD, or something else ???
And how it hook up to my sampler ???
I got laptop, so there's no chance to connect sampler with PC//:((( 
or maybe  I am wrong...



many thanx


filip

i have the same problem. i use a SCSI zip drive. They work fine for
all saving functions. Just make sure not to get one larger than 100mb,
 as the s1100 can only use 60mb of the disk, so there is not point in
a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD would be a good choice too, but the
maximum size useable with it is 500mb, so you'd need to find quite an
old one. i think the cheapest solution is the zip drive, they last
very well, and zip disks are very easy and increasingly cheaper to buy.

Hope this is some help.

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske"
<filipmail@...> wrote:

>
> hello
> 
> I've just bought s1100 with malfunctioning diskdrive...
> What's best idea - buy scsi ZIP drive, HD, or something else ???
> And how it hook up to my sampler ???
> I got laptop, so there's no chance to connect sampler with PC//:((( 
> or maybe  I am wrong...
> 
> 
> 
> many thanx
> 
> 
> filip
>

Hello and thnx bro;)


I've found at last that SCSI ZIP drive is actually most reasonable 
solution, but I need some help still...
I have found on ebay :

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip

SCSI zip drives, but I am not sure which ones is suitable for AKAI 
s1100 ???

Would you mind to help me ???


many thanx.....

nice communityby the way.....



--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "bronxed01" 
<bronxed01@...> wrote:
>
> i have the same problem. i use a SCSI zip drive. They work fine for
> all saving functions. Just make sure not to get one larger than 
100mb,
>  as the s1100 can only use 60mb of the disk, so there is not point 
in
> a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD would be a good choice too, but the
> maximum size useable with it is 500mb, so you'd need to find quite 
an
> old one. i think the cheapest solution is the zip drive, they last
> very well, and zip disks are very easy and increasingly cheaper to 
buy.
> 
> Hope this is some help.
> 
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske"
> <filipmail@> wrote:
> >
> > hello
> > 
> > I've just bought s1100 with malfunctioning diskdrive...
> > What's best idea - buy scsi ZIP drive, HD, or something else ???
> > And how it hook up to my sampler ???
> > I got laptop, so there's no chance to connect sampler with PC//:
((( 

> > or maybe  I am wrong...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > many thanx
> > 
> > 
> > filip
> >
>

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske" <filipmail@...> wrote:
I use an Iomega 100mb external ZIPdrive, watch the cable ! different connectors
on each side is what you need. Don't know the names for the connectors, but
they are still for sale in computershops. 
good luck.

>
> Hello and thnx bro;)
> 
> 
> I've found at last that SCSI ZIP drive is actually most reasonable 
> solution, but I need some help still...
> I have found on ebay :
> 
> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip
> 
> SCSI zip drives, but I am not sure which ones is suitable for AKAI 
> s1100 ???
> 
> Would you mind to help me ???
> 
> 
> many thanx.....
> 
> nice communityby the way.....
> 
> 
> 
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "bronxed01" 
> <bronxed01@> wrote:
> >
> > i have the same problem. i use a SCSI zip drive. They work fine for
> > all saving functions. Just make sure not to get one larger than 
> 100mb,
> >  as the s1100 can only use 60mb of the disk, so there is not point 
> in
> > a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD would be a good choice too, but the
> > maximum size useable with it is 500mb, so you'd need to find quite 
> an
> > old one. i think the cheapest solution is the zip drive, they last
> > very well, and zip disks are very easy and increasingly cheaper to 
> buy.
> > 
> > Hope this is some help.
> > 
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske"
> > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > >
> > > hello
> > > 
> > > I've just bought s1100 with malfunctioning diskdrive...
> > > What's best idea - buy scsi ZIP drive, HD, or something else ???
> > > And how it hook up to my sampler ???
> > > I got laptop, so there's no chance to connect sampler with PC//:
> ((( 
> > > or maybe  I am wrong...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > many thanx
> > > 
> > > 
> > > filip
> > >
> >
>

OK.

but Where I can buy (except ebay) that kind of drives ???

Any help ??? I am UK based.


thx


filip


--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "gribus88" 
<guido7@...> wrote:
>
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske" 
<filipmail@> wrote:
> I use an Iomega 100mb external ZIPdrive, watch the cable ! 
different connectors
> on each side is what you need. Don't know the names for the 
connectors, but
> they are still for sale in computershops. 
> good luck.
> 
> 
> >
> > Hello and thnx bro;)
> > 
> > 
> > I've found at last that SCSI ZIP drive is actually most 
reasonable 
> > solution, but I need some help still...
> > I have found on ebay :
> > 
> > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> > from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip
> > 
> > SCSI zip drives, but I am not sure which ones is suitable for 
AKAI 
> > s1100 ???
> > 
> > Would you mind to help me ???
> > 
> > 
> > many thanx.....
> > 
> > nice communityby the way.....
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "bronxed01" 
> > <bronxed01@> wrote:
> > >
> > > i have the same problem. i use a SCSI zip drive. They work 
fine for
> > > all saving functions. Just make sure not to get one larger 
than 
> > 100mb,
> > >  as the s1100 can only use 60mb of the disk, so there is not 
point 
> > in
> > > a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD would be a good choice too, but 
the
> > > maximum size useable with it is 500mb, so you'd need to find 
quite 
> > an
> > > old one. i think the cheapest solution is the zip drive, they 
last
> > > very well, and zip disks are very easy and increasingly 
cheaper to 
> > buy.
> > > 
> > > Hope this is some help.
> > > 
> > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske"
> > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hello
> > > > 
> > > > I've just bought s1100 with malfunctioning diskdrive...
> > > > What's best idea - buy scsi ZIP drive, HD, or something 
else ???
> > > > And how it hook up to my sampler ???
> > > > I got laptop, so there's no chance to connect sampler with 
PC//:

> > ((( 
> > > > or maybe  I am wrong...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > many thanx
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > filip
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

I'm not sure how easy it will be to find the drives you are looking 
for outside of Ebay.  I struggled to find any SCSI ZIp drives in any 
of the second-hand computer shops here.

In the end I bought two Syquest EZ230MB drives and one Syjet 1.5GB 
drive (for my other sampler) very cheaply on Ebay.  Iomega ZIP's I 
have seen occasionally in the second-hand music shops but the prices 
are heavily inflated over Ebay.  You could also have a look in the 
adverts in Sound on Sound online.  I paid about £60 for the two EZ230 
with about 13 cartridges thrown in on Ebay.  The Syjet would also 
work with the S1100 but would be a waste of its capacity.  HAving 
said that I paid £9 for it on Ebay and got 5 1.5GB cartridges for it 
as well!

Happy hunting






--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske" 
<filipmail@...> wrote:

>
> OK.
> 
> but Where I can buy (except ebay) that kind of drives ???
> 
> Any help ??? I am UK based.
> 
> 
> thx
> 
> 
> filip
> 
> 
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "gribus88" 
> <guido7@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske" 
> <filipmail@> wrote:
> > I use an Iomega 100mb external ZIPdrive, watch the cable ! 
> different connectors
> > on each side is what you need. Don't know the names for the 
> connectors, but
> > they are still for sale in computershops. 
> > good luck.
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > Hello and thnx bro;)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I've found at last that SCSI ZIP drive is actually most 
> reasonable 
> > > solution, but I need some help still...
> > > I have found on ebay :
> > > 
> > > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> > > from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip
> > > 
> > > SCSI zip drives, but I am not sure which ones is suitable for 
> AKAI 
> > > s1100 ???
> > > 
> > > Would you mind to help me ???
> > > 
> > > 
> > > many thanx.....
> > > 
> > > nice communityby the way.....
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "bronxed01" 
> > > <bronxed01@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i have the same problem. i use a SCSI zip drive. They work 
> fine for
> > > > all saving functions. Just make sure not to get one larger 
> than 
> > > 100mb,
> > > >  as the s1100 can only use 60mb of the disk, so there is not 
> point 
> > > in
> > > > a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD would be a good choice too, but 
> the
> > > > maximum size useable with it is 500mb, so you'd need to find 
> quite 
> > > an
> > > > old one. i think the cheapest solution is the zip drive, they 
> last
> > > > very well, and zip disks are very easy and increasingly 
> cheaper to 
> > > buy.
> > > > 
> > > > Hope this is some help.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske"
> > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > hello
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've just bought s1100 with malfunctioning diskdrive...
> > > > > What's best idea - buy scsi ZIP drive, HD, or something 
> else ???
> > > > > And how it hook up to my sampler ???
> > > > > I got laptop, so there's no chance to connect sampler with 
> PC//:
> > > ((( 
> > > > > or maybe  I am wrong...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > many thanx
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > filip
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

If you want external zip100 SCSI, there are about 6 a
month on ebay.co.uk, sometimes with a decent stock of
media. The disks rarely go for more than \ufffd1 each now
that me and ganamor have stopped bidding against each
other to own the entire universe of zip. 
They're all over the UK and collection cuts costs
dramatically if you shop local.
My best deal ever was from a computer guy who must
have thought very little of the ext drive biz in
general and zip in particular. Only 100Mb, why bother
etc.

If you are unable to source, I still have loads.
However, the quest will strengthen your resolve Luke.

Doesn't your cousin Dave have any? <(:>{}  
--- "neal.gilmore" <neal.gilmore@...> wrote:

> I'm not sure how easy it will be to find the drives
> you are looking 
> for outside of Ebay.  I struggled to find any SCSI
> ZIp drives in any 
> of the second-hand computer shops here.
> 
> In the end I bought two Syquest EZ230MB drives and
> one Syjet 1.5GB 
> drive (for my other sampler) very cheaply on Ebay. 
> Iomega ZIP's I 
> have seen occasionally in the second-hand music
> shops but the prices 
> are heavily inflated over Ebay.  You could also have
> a look in the 
> adverts in Sound on Sound online.  I paid about \ufffd60
> for the two EZ230 
> with about 13 cartridges thrown in on Ebay.  The
> Syjet would also 
> work with the S1100 but would be a waste of its
> capacity.  HAving 
> said that I paid \ufffd9 for it on Ebay and got 5 1.5GB
> cartridges for it 
> as well!
> 
> Happy hunting
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> "filipovske" 
> <filipmail@...> wrote:
> >
> > OK.
> > 
> > but Where I can buy (except ebay) that kind of
> drives ???
> > 
> > Any help ??? I am UK based.
> > 
> > 
> > thx
> > 
> > 
> > filip
> > 
> > 
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> "gribus88" 
> > <guido7@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> "filipovske" 
> > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > I use an Iomega 100mb external ZIPdrive, watch
> the cable ! 
> > different connectors
> > > on each side is what you need. Don't know the
> names for the 
> > connectors, but
> > > they are still for sale in computershops. 
> > > good luck.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Hello and thnx bro;)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I've found at last that SCSI ZIP drive is
> actually most 
> > reasonable 
> > > > solution, but I need some help still...
> > > > I have found on ebay :
> > > > 
> > > > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> > > > from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip
> > > > 
> > > > SCSI zip drives, but I am not sure which ones
> is suitable for 
> > AKAI 
> > > > s1100 ???
> > > > 
> > > > Would you mind to help me ???
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > many thanx.....
> > > > 
> > > > nice communityby the way.....
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> "bronxed01" 
> > > > <bronxed01@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > i have the same problem. i use a SCSI zip
> drive. They work 
> > fine for
> > > > > all saving functions. Just make sure not to
> get one larger 
> > than 
> > > > 100mb,
> > > > >  as the s1100 can only use 60mb of the disk,
> so there is not 
> > point 
> > > > in
> > > > > a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD would be a good
> choice too, but 
> > the
> > > > > maximum size useable with it is 500mb, so
> you'd need to find 
> > quite 
> > > > an
> > > > > old one. i think the cheapest solution is
> the zip drive, they 
> > last
> > > > > very well, and zip disks are very easy and
> increasingly 
> > cheaper to 
> > > > buy.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hope this is some help.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In
> akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske"
> > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hello
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I've just bought s1100 with malfunctioning
> diskdrive...
> > > > > > What's best idea - buy scsi ZIP drive, HD,
> or something 
> > else ???
> > > > > > And how it hook up to my sampler ???
> > > > > > I got laptop, so there's no chance to
> connect sampler with 
> > PC//:
> > > > ((( 
> > > > > > or maybe  I am wrong...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > many thanx
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > filip
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 



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Thanks so much folks;)

But I am still confuse about type of SCSI cables connections, i've 
found one on ebay - 26 pin D port - is it telling you anything????
All I need (except other pleasures...) is confirmation - that ZIP 
will work fine with SCSI.
and by hte way - is AKAI 'see' ZIP as a HD ??? and how to connect 
everything???

sorry for my lame questions...... SCSI stuff is quite new for 
myself...


have a nice day gentelmans!



filip

--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les Lambert 
<les_lmbrt@...> wrote:
>
> If you want external zip100 SCSI, there are about 6 a
> month on ebay.co.uk, sometimes with a decent stock of
> media. The disks rarely go for more than £1 each now
> that me and ganamor have stopped bidding against each
> other to own the entire universe of zip. 
> They're all over the UK and collection cuts costs
> dramatically if you shop local.
> My best deal ever was from a computer guy who must
> have thought very little of the ext drive biz in
> general and zip in particular. Only 100Mb, why bother
> etc.
> 
> If you are unable to source, I still have loads.
> However, the quest will strengthen your resolve Luke.
> 
> Doesn't your cousin Dave have any? <(:>{}  
> --- "neal.gilmore" <neal.gilmore@...> wrote:
> 
> > I'm not sure how easy it will be to find the drives
> > you are looking 
> > for outside of Ebay.  I struggled to find any SCSI
> > ZIp drives in any 
> > of the second-hand computer shops here.
> > 
> > In the end I bought two Syquest EZ230MB drives and
> > one Syjet 1.5GB 
> > drive (for my other sampler) very cheaply on Ebay. 
> > Iomega ZIP's I 
> > have seen occasionally in the second-hand music
> > shops but the prices 
> > are heavily inflated over Ebay.  You could also have
> > a look in the 
> > adverts in Sound on Sound online.  I paid about £60
> > for the two EZ230 
> > with about 13 cartridges thrown in on Ebay.  The
> > Syjet would also 
> > work with the S1100 but would be a waste of its
> > capacity.  HAving 
> > said that I paid £9 for it on Ebay and got 5 1.5GB
> > cartridges for it 
> > as well!
> > 
> > Happy hunting
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > "filipovske" 
> > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK.
> > > 
> > > but Where I can buy (except ebay) that kind of
> > drives ???
> > > 
> > > Any help ??? I am UK based.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > thx
> > > 
> > > 
> > > filip
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > "gribus88" 
> > > <guido7@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > "filipovske" 
> > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > I use an Iomega 100mb external ZIPdrive, watch
> > the cable ! 
> > > different connectors
> > > > on each side is what you need. Don't know the
> > names for the 
> > > connectors, but
> > > > they are still for sale in computershops. 
> > > > good luck.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello and thnx bro;)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've found at last that SCSI ZIP drive is
> > actually most 
> > > reasonable 
> > > > > solution, but I need some help still...
> > > > > I have found on ebay :
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> > > > > from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip
> > > > > 
> > > > > SCSI zip drives, but I am not sure which ones
> > is suitable for 
> > > AKAI 
> > > > > s1100 ???
> > > > > 
> > > > > Would you mind to help me ???
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > many thanx.....
> > > > > 
> > > > > nice communityby the way.....
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > "bronxed01" 
> > > > > <bronxed01@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i have the same problem. i use a SCSI zip
> > drive. They work 
> > > fine for
> > > > > > all saving functions. Just make sure not to
> > get one larger 
> > > than 
> > > > > 100mb,
> > > > > >  as the s1100 can only use 60mb of the disk,
> > so there is not 
> > > point 
> > > > > in
> > > > > > a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD would be a good
> > choice too, but 
> > > the
> > > > > > maximum size useable with it is 500mb, so
> > you'd need to find 
> > > quite 
> > > > > an
> > > > > > old one. i think the cheapest solution is
> > the zip drive, they 
> > > last
> > > > > > very well, and zip disks are very easy and
> > increasingly 
> > > cheaper to 
> > > > > buy.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hope this is some help.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In
> > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, "filipovske"
> > > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hello
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I've just bought s1100 with malfunctioning
> > diskdrive...
> > > > > > > What's best idea - buy scsi ZIP drive, HD,
> > or something 
> > > else ???
> > > > > > > And how it hook up to my sampler ???
> > > > > > > I got laptop, so there's no chance to
> > connect sampler with 
> > > PC//:
> > > > > ((( 
> > > > > > > or maybe  I am wrong...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > many thanx
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > filip
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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It's not that simple at first.
There is a more common ext zip that is parallel port.
Same 25pin connector. DOES NOT WORK WITH S1100. You
need the SCSI one.

Your Sampler has a 50pin Amphenol (SCSI 1 call that)
The ext SCSI 100Mb zip drive has a 25pin dSub, like an
old beige mac, (still SCSI 1)
So the cable you need is 50pin Amphenol to 25pin dsub.
The two connectors on the zip are the same I think,
but one has ZIP on it, which is the input to the
drive, the other is for continuation of the SCSI bus.
(If you connect another item here, you turn the
termination off)

You select 5 and term on on the back of the zip, and
if you plug the stuff up to the sampler, when you
power up with a zip in the drive and you select hard
disk, the zip drive will appear on the default ID of
5. Then you decide partition size, I match RAM size on
mine, 3 x 32Mb for a zip. Then you FORMAT, make a cup
of tea and then the disk is ready for saving samples
to. I recommend some paperwork in advance, labelling
each disk and having a book of what's where. Your
choice, most people don't, and then have trouble
finding stuff i suspect.
After you have stuff on the disk, when you select hHD,
you'll see the partitions and volumes like a fixed
drive.

There is another SCSI 50pin connector you get on jaz
drives and some PCs that looks like an artists
impression of the son of the first two connectors.
This gets called SCSI 2 by lots of people. Same
signals etc.
All of the above is also called narrow SCSI

After that it gets more complicated with faster wider
systems which have been re-named at least once and
there are a few different drive types on the same
connector too, as well as identical types of drives
with different connectors. There are some good
articles on the web, you may ignore them for your
current needs..
The other major sampler manufacturers have all had to
educate the musicians, so there are normally documents
that <explain> what's going on. I found the
Kurzweil.com support amterial to be the best, but the
EMU stuff is good. The old mac manuals are good too. 
Welcome to SCSI

--- filipovske <filipmail@...> wrote:

> Thanks so much folks;)
> 
> But I am still confuse about type of SCSI cables
> connections, i've 
> found one on ebay - 26 pin D port - is it telling
> you anything????
> All I need (except other pleasures...) is
> confirmation - that ZIP 
> will work fine with SCSI.
> and by hte way - is AKAI 'see' ZIP as a HD ??? and
> how to connect 
> everything???
> 
> sorry for my lame questions...... SCSI stuff is
> quite new for 
> myself...
> 
> 
> have a nice day gentelmans!
> 
> 
> 
> filip
> 
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les
> Lambert 
> <les_lmbrt@...> wrote:
> >
> > If you want external zip100 SCSI, there are about
> 6 a
> > month on ebay.co.uk, sometimes with a decent stock
> of
> > media. The disks rarely go for more than \ufffd1 each
> now
> > that me and ganamor have stopped bidding against
> each
> > other to own the entire universe of zip. 
> > They're all over the UK and collection cuts costs
> > dramatically if you shop local.
> > My best deal ever was from a computer guy who must
> > have thought very little of the ext drive biz in
> > general and zip in particular. Only 100Mb, why
> bother
> > etc.
> > 
> > If you are unable to source, I still have loads.
> > However, the quest will strengthen your resolve
> Luke.
> > 
> > Doesn't your cousin Dave have any? <(:>{}  
> > --- "neal.gilmore" <neal.gilmore@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm not sure how easy it will be to find the
> drives
> > > you are looking 
> > > for outside of Ebay.  I struggled to find any
> SCSI
> > > ZIp drives in any 
> > > of the second-hand computer shops here.
> > > 
> > > In the end I bought two Syquest EZ230MB drives
> and
> > > one Syjet 1.5GB 
> > > drive (for my other sampler) very cheaply on
> Ebay. 
> > > Iomega ZIP's I 
> > > have seen occasionally in the second-hand music
> > > shops but the prices 
> > > are heavily inflated over Ebay.  You could also
> have
> > > a look in the 
> > > adverts in Sound on Sound online.  I paid about
> \ufffd60
> > > for the two EZ230 
> > > with about 13 cartridges thrown in on Ebay.  The
> > > Syjet would also 
> > > work with the S1100 but would be a waste of its
> > > capacity.  HAving 
> > > said that I paid \ufffd9 for it on Ebay and got 5
> 1.5GB
> > > cartridges for it 
> > > as well!
> > > 
> > > Happy hunting
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "filipovske" 
> > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK.
> > > > 
> > > > but Where I can buy (except ebay) that kind of
> > > drives ???
> > > > 
> > > > Any help ??? I am UK based.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > thx
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > filip
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "gribus88" 
> > > > <guido7@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In
> akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "filipovske" 
> > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > > I use an Iomega 100mb external ZIPdrive,
> watch
> > > the cable ! 
> > > > different connectors
> > > > > on each side is what you need. Don't know
> the
> > > names for the 
> > > > connectors, but
> > > > > they are still for sale in computershops. 
> > > > > good luck.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello and thnx bro;)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I've found at last that SCSI ZIP drive is
> > > actually most 
> > > > reasonable 
> > > > > > solution, but I need some help still...
> > > > > > I have found on ebay :
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> > > > > > from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > SCSI zip drives, but I am not sure which
> ones
> > > is suitable for 
> > > > AKAI 
> > > > > > s1100 ???
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Would you mind to help me ???
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > many thanx.....
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > nice communityby the way.....
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In
> akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "bronxed01" 
> > > > > > <bronxed01@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i have the same problem. i use a SCSI
> zip
> > > drive. They work 
> > > > fine for
> > > > > > > all saving functions. Just make sure not
> to
> > > get one larger 
> > > > than 
> > > > > > 100mb,
> > > > > > >  as the s1100 can only use 60mb of the
> disk,
> > > so there is not 
> > > > point 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD would be a
> good
> > > choice too, but 
> > > > the
> > > > > > > maximum size useable with it is 500mb,
> so
> > > you'd need to find 
> > > > quite 
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > old one. i think the cheapest solution
> is
> > > the zip drive, they 
> > > > last
> > > > > > > very well, and zip disks are very easy
> and
> > > increasingly 
> > > > cheaper to 
> > > > > > buy.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hope this is some help.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In
> > > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> "filipovske"
> > > > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> 
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Really appretiate your explanation...but honestly I more confused....
OK. I found on ebay couple ZIP drives even with info that I can 
hook'em to sampler via SCSI....but  I am not sure,Should I ask 
geezer about Amphenol 50 pin -25 pin cabel???

links to ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZIP-Plus-100-SCSI-
drive_W0QQitemZ300130059381QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3757QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ
rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

adaptor ????? :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCSI-Adaptor-50HD-P-to-25-D-S-
NEW_W0QQitemZ120142865277QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr
dZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCSI-TO-PARALLEL-PORT-ADAPTOR-E138961-
NEW_W0QQitemZ120141857153QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr
dZ1QQcmdZViewItem




......thanx guys....but my head is like a throbbling gristle....It 
seems I must learn about SCSI stuff.....


great forum/group, hats off guys:)



cheers


filip


--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les Lambert 
<les_lmbrt@...> wrote:
>
> It's not that simple at first.
> There is a more common ext zip that is parallel port.
> Same 25pin connector. DOES NOT WORK WITH S1100. You
> need the SCSI one.
> 
> Your Sampler has a 50pin Amphenol (SCSI 1 call that)
> The ext SCSI 100Mb zip drive has a 25pin dSub, like an
> old beige mac, (still SCSI 1)
> So the cable you need is 50pin Amphenol to 25pin dsub.
> The two connectors on the zip are the same I think,
> but one has ZIP on it, which is the input to the
> drive, the other is for continuation of the SCSI bus.
> (If you connect another item here, you turn the
> termination off)
> 
> You select 5 and term on on the back of the zip, and
> if you plug the stuff up to the sampler, when you
> power up with a zip in the drive and you select hard
> disk, the zip drive will appear on the default ID of
> 5. Then you decide partition size, I match RAM size on
> mine, 3 x 32Mb for a zip. Then you FORMAT, make a cup
> of tea and then the disk is ready for saving samples
> to. I recommend some paperwork in advance, labelling
> each disk and having a book of what's where. Your
> choice, most people don't, and then have trouble
> finding stuff i suspect.
> After you have stuff on the disk, when you select hHD,
> you'll see the partitions and volumes like a fixed
> drive.
> 
> There is another SCSI 50pin connector you get on jaz
> drives and some PCs that looks like an artists
> impression of the son of the first two connectors.
> This gets called SCSI 2 by lots of people. Same
> signals etc.
> All of the above is also called narrow SCSI
> 
> After that it gets more complicated with faster wider
> systems which have been re-named at least once and
> there are a few different drive types on the same
> connector too, as well as identical types of drives
> with different connectors. There are some good
> articles on the web, you may ignore them for your
> current needs..
> The other major sampler manufacturers have all had to
> educate the musicians, so there are normally documents
> that <explain> what's going on. I found the
> Kurzweil.com support amterial to be the best, but the
> EMU stuff is good. The old mac manuals are good too. 
> Welcome to SCSI
> 
> --- filipovske <filipmail@...> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks so much folks;)
> > 
> > But I am still confuse about type of SCSI cables
> > connections, i've 
> > found one on ebay - 26 pin D port - is it telling
> > you anything????
> > All I need (except other pleasures...) is
> > confirmation - that ZIP 
> > will work fine with SCSI.
> > and by hte way - is AKAI 'see' ZIP as a HD ??? and
> > how to connect 
> > everything???
> > 
> > sorry for my lame questions...... SCSI stuff is
> > quite new for 
> > myself...
> > 
> > 
> > have a nice day gentelmans!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > filip
> > 
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les
> > Lambert 
> > <les_lmbrt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you want external zip100 SCSI, there are about
> > 6 a
> > > month on ebay.co.uk, sometimes with a decent stock
> > of
> > > media. The disks rarely go for more than £1 each
> > now
> > > that me and ganamor have stopped bidding against
> > each
> > > other to own the entire universe of zip. 
> > > They're all over the UK and collection cuts costs
> > > dramatically if you shop local.
> > > My best deal ever was from a computer guy who must
> > > have thought very little of the ext drive biz in
> > > general and zip in particular. Only 100Mb, why
> > bother
> > > etc.
> > > 
> > > If you are unable to source, I still have loads.
> > > However, the quest will strengthen your resolve
> > Luke.
> > > 
> > > Doesn't your cousin Dave have any? <(:>{}  
> > > --- "neal.gilmore" <neal.gilmore@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'm not sure how easy it will be to find the
> > drives
> > > > you are looking 
> > > > for outside of Ebay.  I struggled to find any
> > SCSI
> > > > ZIp drives in any 
> > > > of the second-hand computer shops here.
> > > > 
> > > > In the end I bought two Syquest EZ230MB drives
> > and
> > > > one Syjet 1.5GB 
> > > > drive (for my other sampler) very cheaply on
> > Ebay. 
> > > > Iomega ZIP's I 
> > > > have seen occasionally in the second-hand music
> > > > shops but the prices 
> > > > are heavily inflated over Ebay.  You could also
> > have
> > > > a look in the 
> > > > adverts in Sound on Sound online.  I paid about
> > £60
> > > > for the two EZ230 
> > > > with about 13 cartridges thrown in on Ebay.  The
> > > > Syjet would also 
> > > > work with the S1100 but would be a waste of its
> > > > capacity.  HAving 
> > > > said that I paid £9 for it on Ebay and got 5
> > 1.5GB
> > > > cartridges for it 
> > > > as well!
> > > > 
> > > > Happy hunting
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "filipovske" 
> > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > OK.
> > > > > 
> > > > > but Where I can buy (except ebay) that kind of
> > > > drives ???
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any help ??? I am UK based.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > thx
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > filip
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "gribus88" 
> > > > > <guido7@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
> > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "filipovske" 
> > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > > > I use an Iomega 100mb external ZIPdrive,
> > watch
> > > > the cable ! 
> > > > > different connectors
> > > > > > on each side is what you need. Don't know
> > the
> > > > names for the 
> > > > > connectors, but
> > > > > > they are still for sale in computershops. 
> > > > > > good luck.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello and thnx bro;)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I've found at last that SCSI ZIP drive is
> > > > actually most 
> > > > > reasonable 
> > > > > > > solution, but I need some help still...
> > > > > > > I have found on ebay :
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> > > > > > > from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > SCSI zip drives, but I am not sure which
> > ones
> > > > is suitable for 
> > > > > AKAI 
> > > > > > > s1100 ???
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Would you mind to help me ???
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > many thanx.....
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > nice communityby the way.....
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In
> > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "bronxed01" 
> > > > > > > <bronxed01@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i have the same problem. i use a SCSI
> > zip
> > > > drive. They work 
> > > > > fine for
> > > > > > > > all saving functions. Just make sure not
> > to
> > > > get one larger 
> > > > > than 
> > > > > > > 100mb,
> > > > > > > >  as the s1100 can only use 60mb of the
> > disk,
> > > > so there is not 
> > > > > point 
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD would be a
> > good
> > > > choice too, but 
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > maximum size useable with it is 500mb,
> > so
> > > > you'd need to find 
> > > > > quite 
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > old one. i think the cheapest solution
> > is
> > > > the zip drive, they 
> > > > > last
> > > > > > > > very well, and zip disks are very easy
> > and
> > > > increasingly 
> > > > > cheaper to 
> > > > > > > buy.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hope this is some help.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > "filipovske"
> > > > > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
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hi filip

lot's of external scsi zip drives on ebay at the
moment. any of them should do. but you do need
the right cable, like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCSI-I-50-way-Centronics-to-DB25-cable-0-8m_W0QQitemZ220131176966QQihZ012QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

rob

--- filipovske <filipmail@...> wrote:

> ...;/...Jeeee.....:((((
> 
> Really appretiate your explanation...but
> honestly I more confused....
> OK. I found on ebay couple ZIP drives even with
> info that I can 
> hook'em to sampler via SCSI....but  I am not
> sure,Should I ask 
> geezer about Amphenol 50 pin -25 pin cabel???
> 
> links to ebay:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZIP-Plus-100-SCSI-
>
drive_W0QQitemZ300130059381QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3757QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ
> rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> adaptor ????? :
> 
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCSI-Adaptor-50HD-P-to-25-D-S-
>
NEW_W0QQitemZ120142865277QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr
> dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> 
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCSI-TO-PARALLEL-PORT-ADAPTOR-E138961-
>
NEW_W0QQitemZ120141857153QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr
> dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ......thanx guys....but my head is like a
> throbbling gristle....It 
> seems I must learn about SCSI stuff.....
> 
> 
> great forum/group, hats off guys:)
> 
> 
> 
> cheers
> 
> 
> filip
> 
> 
> --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> Les Lambert 
> <les_lmbrt@...> wrote:
> >
> > It's not that simple at first.
> > There is a more common ext zip that is
> parallel port.
> > Same 25pin connector. DOES NOT WORK WITH
> S1100. You
> > need the SCSI one.
> > 
> > Your Sampler has a 50pin Amphenol (SCSI 1
> call that)
> > The ext SCSI 100Mb zip drive has a 25pin
> dSub, like an
> > old beige mac, (still SCSI 1)
> > So the cable you need is 50pin Amphenol to
> 25pin dsub.
> > The two connectors on the zip are the same I
> think,
> > but one has ZIP on it, which is the input to
> the
> > drive, the other is for continuation of the
> SCSI bus.
> > (If you connect another item here, you turn
> the
> > termination off)
> > 
> > You select 5 and term on on the back of the
> zip, and
> > if you plug the stuff up to the sampler, when
> you
> > power up with a zip in the drive and you
> select hard
> > disk, the zip drive will appear on the
> default ID of
> > 5. Then you decide partition size, I match
> RAM size on
> > mine, 3 x 32Mb for a zip. Then you FORMAT,
> make a cup
> > of tea and then the disk is ready for saving
> samples
> > to. I recommend some paperwork in advance,
> labelling
> > each disk and having a book of what's where.
> Your
> > choice, most people don't, and then have
> trouble
> > finding stuff i suspect.
> > After you have stuff on the disk, when you
> select hHD,
> > you'll see the partitions and volumes like a
> fixed
> > drive.
> > 
> > There is another SCSI 50pin connector you get
> on jaz
> > drives and some PCs that looks like an
> artists
> > impression of the son of the first two
> connectors.
> > This gets called SCSI 2 by lots of people.
> Same
> > signals etc.
> > All of the above is also called narrow SCSI
> > 
> > After that it gets more complicated with
> faster wider
> > systems which have been re-named at least
> once and
> > there are a few different drive types on the
> same
> > connector too, as well as identical types of
> drives
> > with different connectors. There are some
> good
> > articles on the web, you may ignore them for
> your
> > current needs..
> > The other major sampler manufacturers have
> all had to
> > educate the musicians, so there are normally
> documents
> > that <explain> what's going on. I found the
> > Kurzweil.com support amterial to be the best,
> but the
> > EMU stuff is good. The old mac manuals are
> good too. 
> > Welcome to SCSI
> > 
> > --- filipovske <filipmail@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks so much folks;)
> > > 
> > > But I am still confuse about type of SCSI
> cables
> > > connections, i've 
> > > found one on ebay - 26 pin D port - is it
> telling
> > > you anything????
> > > All I need (except other pleasures...) is
> > > confirmation - that ZIP 
> > > will work fine with SCSI.
> > > and by hte way - is AKAI 'see' ZIP as a HD
> ??? and
> > > how to connect 
> > > everything???
> > > 
> > > sorry for my lame questions...... SCSI
> stuff is
> > > quite new for 
> > > myself...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > have a nice day gentelmans!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > filip
> > > 
> > > --- In
> akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les
> > > Lambert 
> > > <les_lmbrt@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you want external zip100 SCSI, there
> are about
> > > 6 a
> > > > month on ebay.co.uk, sometimes with a
> decent stock
> > > of
> > > > media. The disks rarely go for more than
> \ufffd1 each
> > > now
> > > > that me and ganamor have stopped bidding
> against
> > > each
> > > > other to own the entire universe of zip. 
> > > > They're all over the UK and collection
> cuts costs
> > > > dramatically if you shop local.
> > > > My best deal ever was from a computer guy
> who must
> > > > have thought very little of the ext drive
> biz in
> > > > general and zip in particular. Only
> 100Mb, why
> > > bother
> > > > etc.
> > > > 
> > > > If you are unable to source, I still have
> loads.
> > > > However, the quest will strengthen your
> resolve
> > > Luke.
> > > > 
> > > > Doesn't your cousin Dave have any? <(:>{}
>  
> > > > --- "neal.gilmore" <neal.gilmore@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I'm not sure how easy it will be to
> find the
> > > drives
> > > > > you are looking 
> > > > > for outside of Ebay.  I struggled to
> find any
> > > SCSI
> > > > > ZIp drives in any 
> > > > > of the second-hand computer shops here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the end I bought two Syquest EZ230MB
> drives
> > > and
> > > > > one Syjet 1.5GB 
> > > > > drive (for my other sampler) very
> cheaply on
> > > Ebay. 
> > > > > Iomega ZIP's I 
> > > > > have seen occasionally in the
> second-hand music
> > > > > shops but the prices 
> > > > > are heavily inflated over Ebay.  You
> could also
> > > have
> > > > > a look in the 
> > > > > adverts in Sound on Sound online.  I
> paid about
> > > \ufffd60
> > > > > for the two EZ230 
> > > > > with about 13 cartridges thrown in on
> Ebay.  The
> > > > > Syjet would also 
> > > > > work with the S1100 but would be a
> waste of its
> > > > > capacity.  HAving 
> > > > > said that I paid \ufffd9 for it on Ebay and
> got 5
> > > 1.5GB
> > > > > cartridges for it 
> > > > > as well!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Happy hunting
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In
> akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > "filipovske" 
> > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > but Where I can buy (except ebay)
> that kind of
> > > > > drives ???
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Any help ??? I am UK based.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > thx
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > filip
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In
> akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > "gribus88" 
> > > > > > <guido7@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In
> > > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > "filipovske" 
> > > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > > > > I use an Iomega 100mb external
> ZIPdrive,
> > > watch
> > > > > the cable ! 
> > > > > > different connectors
> > > > > > > on each side is what you need.
> Don't know
> > > the
> > > > > names for the 
> > > > > > connectors, but
> > > > > > > they are still for sale in
> computershops. 
> > > > > > > good luck.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello and thnx bro;)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I've found at last that SCSI ZIP
> drive is
> > > > > actually most 
> > > > > > reasonable 
> > > > > > > > solution, but I need some help
> still...
> > > > > > > > I have found on ebay :
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> > > > > > > >
> from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > SCSI zip drives, but I am not
> sure which
> > > ones
> > > > > is suitable for 
> > > > > > AKAI 
> > > > > > > > s1100 ???
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Would you mind to help me ???
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > many thanx.....
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > nice communityby the way.....
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In
> > > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > "bronxed01" 
> > > > > > > > <bronxed01@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > i have the same problem. i use
> a SCSI
> > > zip
> > > > > drive. They work 
> > > > > > fine for
> > > > > > > > > all saving functions. Just make
> sure not
> > > to
> > > > > get one larger 
> > > > > > than 
> > > > > > > > 100mb,
> > > > > > > > >  as the s1100 can only use 60mb
> of the
> > > disk,
> > > > > so there is not 
> > > > > > point 
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD
> would be a
> > > good
> > > > > choice too, but 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > maximum size useable with it is
> 500mb,
> > > so
> > > > > you'd need to find 
> > > > > > quite 
> > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > old one. i think the cheapest
> solution
> > > is
> > > > > the zip drive, they 
> > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > > very well, and zip disks are
> very easy
> > > and
> > > > > increasingly 
> > > > > > cheaper to 
> > > > > > > > buy.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hope this is some help.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "filipovske"
> > > > > > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > 
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--- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Robert Cary 
<rob_kari@...> wrote:
>
> hi filip
> 
> lot's of external scsi zip drives on ebay at the
> moment. any of them should do. but you do need
> the right cable, like this one:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCSI-I-50-way-Centronics-to-DB25-cable-0-
8m_W0QQitemZ220131176966QQihZ012QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ
1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> rob
> 
> --- filipovske <filipmail@...> wrote:
> 
> > ...;/...Jeeee.....:((((
> > 
> > Really appretiate your explanation...but
> > honestly I more confused....
> > OK. I found on ebay couple ZIP drives even with
> > info that I can 
> > hook'em to sampler via SCSI....but  I am not
> > sure,Should I ask 
> > geezer about Amphenol 50 pin -25 pin cabel???
> > 
> > links to ebay:
> > 
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZIP-Plus-100-SCSI-
> >
> 
drive_W0QQitemZ300130059381QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3757QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ
> > rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > 
> > adaptor ????? :
> > 
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCSI-Adaptor-50HD-P-to-25-D-S-
> >
> 
NEW_W0QQitemZ120142865277QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr
> > dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > 
> > 
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCSI-TO-PARALLEL-PORT-ADAPTOR-E138961-
> >
> 
NEW_W0QQitemZ120141857153QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr
> > dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ......thanx guys....but my head is like a
> > throbbling gristle....It 
> > seems I must learn about SCSI stuff.....
> > 
> > 
> > great forum/group, hats off guys:)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > 
> > filip
> > 
> > 
> > --- In akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > Les Lambert 
> > <les_lmbrt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's not that simple at first.
> > > There is a more common ext zip that is
> > parallel port.
> > > Same 25pin connector. DOES NOT WORK WITH
> > S1100. You
> > > need the SCSI one.
> > > 
> > > Your Sampler has a 50pin Amphenol (SCSI 1
> > call that)
> > > The ext SCSI 100Mb zip drive has a 25pin
> > dSub, like an
> > > old beige mac, (still SCSI 1)
> > > So the cable you need is 50pin Amphenol to
> > 25pin dsub.
> > > The two connectors on the zip are the same I
> > think,
> > > but one has ZIP on it, which is the input to
> > the
> > > drive, the other is for continuation of the
> > SCSI bus.
> > > (If you connect another item here, you turn
> > the
> > > termination off)
> > > 
> > > You select 5 and term on on the back of the
> > zip, and
> > > if you plug the stuff up to the sampler, when
> > you
> > > power up with a zip in the drive and you
> > select hard
> > > disk, the zip drive will appear on the
> > default ID of
> > > 5. Then you decide partition size, I match
> > RAM size on
> > > mine, 3 x 32Mb for a zip. Then you FORMAT,
> > make a cup
> > > of tea and then the disk is ready for saving
> > samples
> > > to. I recommend some paperwork in advance,
> > labelling
> > > each disk and having a book of what's where.
> > Your
> > > choice, most people don't, and then have
> > trouble
> > > finding stuff i suspect.
> > > After you have stuff on the disk, when you
> > select hHD,
> > > you'll see the partitions and volumes like a
> > fixed
> > > drive.
> > > 
> > > There is another SCSI 50pin connector you get
> > on jaz
> > > drives and some PCs that looks like an
> > artists
> > > impression of the son of the first two
> > connectors.
> > > This gets called SCSI 2 by lots of people.
> > Same
> > > signals etc.
> > > All of the above is also called narrow SCSI
> > > 
> > > After that it gets more complicated with
> > faster wider
> > > systems which have been re-named at least
> > once and
> > > there are a few different drive types on the
> > same
> > > connector too, as well as identical types of
> > drives
> > > with different connectors. There are some
> > good
> > > articles on the web, you may ignore them for
> > your
> > > current needs..
> > > The other major sampler manufacturers have
> > all had to
> > > educate the musicians, so there are normally
> > documents
> > > that <explain> what's going on. I found the
> > > Kurzweil.com support amterial to be the best,
> > but the
> > > EMU stuff is good. The old mac manuals are
> > good too. 
> > > Welcome to SCSI
> > > 
> > > --- filipovske <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Thanks so much folks;)
> > > > 
> > > > But I am still confuse about type of SCSI
> > cables
> > > > connections, i've 
> > > > found one on ebay - 26 pin D port - is it
> > telling
> > > > you anything????
> > > > All I need (except other pleasures...) is
> > > > confirmation - that ZIP 
> > > > will work fine with SCSI.
> > > > and by hte way - is AKAI 'see' ZIP as a HD
> > ??? and
> > > > how to connect 
> > > > everything???
> > > > 
> > > > sorry for my lame questions...... SCSI
> > stuff is
> > > > quite new for 
> > > > myself...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > have a nice day gentelmans!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > filip
> > > > 
> > > > --- In
> > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com, Les
> > > > Lambert 
> > > > <les_lmbrt@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want external zip100 SCSI, there
> > are about
> > > > 6 a
> > > > > month on ebay.co.uk, sometimes with a
> > decent stock
> > > > of
> > > > > media. The disks rarely go for more than
> > £1 each
> > > > now
> > > > > that me and ganamor have stopped bidding
> > against
> > > > each
> > > > > other to own the entire universe of zip. 
> > > > > They're all over the UK and collection
> > cuts costs
> > > > > dramatically if you shop local.
> > > > > My best deal ever was from a computer guy
> > who must
> > > > > have thought very little of the ext drive
> > biz in
> > > > > general and zip in particular. Only
> > 100Mb, why
> > > > bother
> > > > > etc.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you are unable to source, I still have
> > loads.
> > > > > However, the quest will strengthen your
> > resolve
> > > > Luke.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Doesn't your cousin Dave have any? <(:>{}
> >  
> > > > > --- "neal.gilmore" <neal.gilmore@> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm not sure how easy it will be to
> > find the
> > > > drives
> > > > > > you are looking 
> > > > > > for outside of Ebay.  I struggled to
> > find any
> > > > SCSI
> > > > > > ZIp drives in any 
> > > > > > of the second-hand computer shops here.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In the end I bought two Syquest EZ230MB
> > drives
> > > > and
> > > > > > one Syjet 1.5GB 
> > > > > > drive (for my other sampler) very
> > cheaply on
> > > > Ebay. 
> > > > > > Iomega ZIP's I 
> > > > > > have seen occasionally in the
> > second-hand music
> > > > > > shops but the prices 
> > > > > > are heavily inflated over Ebay.  You
> > could also
> > > > have
> > > > > > a look in the 
> > > > > > adverts in Sound on Sound online.  I
> > paid about
> > > > £60
> > > > > > for the two EZ230 
> > > > > > with about 13 cartridges thrown in on
> > Ebay.  The
> > > > > > Syjet would also 
> > > > > > work with the S1100 but would be a
> > waste of its
> > > > > > capacity.  HAving 
> > > > > > said that I paid £9 for it on Ebay and
> > got 5
> > > > 1.5GB
> > > > > > cartridges for it 
> > > > > > as well!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Happy hunting
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In
> > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > "filipovske" 
> > > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > but Where I can buy (except ebay)
> > that kind of
> > > > > > drives ???
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Any help ??? I am UK based.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > thx
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > filip
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In
> > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > "gribus88" 
> > > > > > > <guido7@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > "filipovske" 
> > > > > > > <filipmail@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I use an Iomega 100mb external
> > ZIPdrive,
> > > > watch
> > > > > > the cable ! 
> > > > > > > different connectors
> > > > > > > > on each side is what you need.
> > Don't know
> > > > the
> > > > > > names for the 
> > > > > > > connectors, but
> > > > > > > > they are still for sale in
> > computershops. 
> > > > > > > > good luck.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello and thnx bro;)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I've found at last that SCSI ZIP
> > drive is
> > > > > > actually most 
> > > > > > > reasonable 
> > > > > > > > > solution, but I need some help
> > still...
> > > > > > > > > I have found on ebay :
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?
> > > > > > > > >
> > from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=scsi%2Bzip
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > SCSI zip drives, but I am not
> > sure which
> > > > ones
> > > > > > is suitable for 
> > > > > > > AKAI 
> > > > > > > > > s1100 ???
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Would you mind to help me ???
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > many thanx.....
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > nice communityby the way.....
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > akaiS1000S1100Samplers@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > "bronxed01" 
> > > > > > > > > <bronxed01@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > i have the same problem. i use
> > a SCSI
> > > > zip
> > > > > > drive. They work 
> > > > > > > fine for
> > > > > > > > > > all saving functions. Just make
> > sure not
> > > > to
> > > > > > get one larger 
> > > > > > > than 
> > > > > > > > > 100mb,
> > > > > > > > > >  as the s1100 can only use 60mb
> > of the
> > > > disk,
> > > > > > so there is not 
> > > > > > > point 
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > a 250mb, or a 1gig one. A HD
> > would be a
> > > > good
> > > > > > choice too, but 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > maximum size useable with it is
> > 500mb,
> > > > so
> > > > > > you'd need to find 
> > > > > > > quite 
> > > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > old one. i think the cheapest
> > solution
> > > > is
> > > > > > the zip drive, they 
> > > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > > > very well, and zip disks are
> > very easy
> > > > and
> > > > > > increasingly 
> > > > > > > cheaper to 
> > > > > > > > > buy.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hope this is some help.
> > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > "filipovske"
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