Analogue-sequencer

Something else to try:  Let a hardware box (P3 or a drum machine) be the 
MIDI master device, and cubase as a slave.   The timing will be better, but 
probably still not perfect.

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stoffel" <chr.stoffel@uni-koeln.de>
To: <analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:50 PM
Subject: [analogue-sequencer] OT: Windows Midi Timing


> Hi Folks,
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> a bit off topic, but maybe you can help.
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> I had the idea of arranging some of my tracks that I did with the P3
> in my sequencer Cubas SX. So i recorded the midi out of the P3 into my
> computer, quantized everything, and was really shocked when i played
> back the track from Cubase. It "felt" completely different. Well you
> couldn't really hear timing problems, but it wasn't by far as tight as
> when I play it with the P3. So i started to measure. First I played
> the song with the P3, all 8 Tracks running, but i recorded only one
> track with a clap on every Quarter Note. Then I compared Bar 1 to Bar
> 2 in this way: in CoolEdit I arranged the two bars on two tracks, and
> made sure, that the first Clap of Bar1 and the first Clap of Bar2
> where exact on each other with no offset. Then I measured the
> deviation of the other three Claps, and they had a maximum offset of
> 0,5 ms between each other.
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> Then I did the same with the song played back by Cubase SX. And I
> measured offsets between 1,5 ms and up to 4 ms.
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> You might say, that this is beyond a noticeable difference, but when
> you have a lot of drum stuff going on, you really can feel the
> difference when you compare it to the output of the P3. (Or at least I
> believe that i can feel it, although i did no blind test)
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> Now this really drives me cracy.
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> Mybe I'm not using the right environment? I'm using Windows 2000 (SP4)
> with directx 9.0c and Cubase SX. I read somewhere that WindowsXP and
> Cubase SX3 should be ways better. Anyone with experience about that?
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> Or another solution might be the Midex8 with that strange LTB Method.
> But they doesn't seem to sell it anymore? Why? Are all Midi Timing
> Problems solved with WinXP, or is it just because noone cares anymore?
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> At the moment I really think about just rehearsing more with the P3
> and just using the Laptop as a 8-Track recorder, and forget about
> arranging with the Computer. If only I had more then two hands, so
> that I could do more than tweak two knobs of my Nord Modular.
>
> If anyone knows a solution to this Windows Timing stuff, please let me
> know.
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> Best wishes and once again: thanx Colin for this wonderful P3.
> Stoffel
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