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Re: OT: Windows Midi Timing

2006-04-21 by acidmitch

> in CoolEdit I arranged the two bars on two tracks, and
> made sure, that the first Clap of Bar1 and the first Clap of Bar2
> where exact on each other with no offset. Then I measured the
> deviation of the other three Claps, and they had a maximum offset of
> 0,5 ms between each other.
> Then I did the same with the song played back by Cubase SX. And I
> measured offsets between 1,5 ms and up to 4 ms.

As far as I know your measurements are normal for Cubase.Steinberg 
think these figures are acceptable


> Mybe I'm not using the right environment? I'm using Windows 2000 
(SP4)
> with directx 9.0c and Cubase SX. I read somewhere that WindowsXP and
> Cubase SX3 should be ways better. Anyone with experience about that?

I don't think this will help due to the design of Steinbergs midi 
engine.I've read an article about how the midi engine uses jitter to 
distribute events.Each event has a small "time window" instead of an 
exact position.
If I can find the article again I will post a link for you.


> Or another solution might be the Midex8 with that strange LTB 
Method.

These devices only give better timing on playback.
They work by introducing a little latency and sending timestamped 
midi events from the computer to the interface ahead of time.Then the 
interface distributes the events at the correct time.
I can see how this is great if you are using Cubase to generate all 
your midi data,but if you record midi you may still have to do some 
quantising to get the data to play back like your hardware.
I've heard of people getting great results from these devices in 
conjunction with mpc groove templates.


> > At the moment I really think about just rehearsing more with the 
P3
> > and just using the Laptop as a 8-Track recorder, and forget about
> > arranging with the Computer. If only I had more then two hands, so
> > that I could do more than tweak two knobs of my Nord Modular.
> >
> > If anyone knows a solution to this Windows Timing stuff, please 
let me
> > know.

Rehearsing more with your P3 can only be a good thing:)
Have you thought about useing another hardware sequencer to record 
and arrange your midi and just using the computer to record the audio?

Later's
Mitch

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