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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Chords on P3

2008-05-07 by Hans Greuber

Sorry about my indian english folks, I forgot a lot!
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> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
> From: turbotron69@hotmail.com
> Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 05:15:48 +0200
> Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] Chords on P3
> 
> 
> To me is the only feature to  have the ultimate minimal machine and  say bye to computers forever.
> 
> 
> If there only a remaining code , If Colin agree it coul be a last update for us,lovers of that feature sacrifing all upcoming ones leaving
> other people right to choose delay etc.
> 
> 
> I could  firm rigt now, I don´t need any other feature that chord mode. We five could even pay Colin for his effort to achieve that,agree?
> 
> It just come to my mind early house and G force,Robert Hood records and I´ll it again with just a P3!
> 
> Hans
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>> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
>> From: dave@RenegadeRhythms.com
>> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 13:37:20 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] Chords on P3
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Zed,
>> Comments inline:
>> 
>> Zed Velkovich wrote:
>> 
>>>>3P is already polyphonic sequencer,
>> I'm not sure if you are aware or not, but the P3 didn't start as a
>> Polyphonic Step Sequencer. It started as
>> a Monophonic Step Sequencer. Polyphony was added later. I remember when
>> it was added and I remember
>> my exitement when hearing about it. I myself, several years ago
>> requested for
>> an improvement in utilizing the Chords with the P3 similar to what you
>> have requested and it was shot down
>> then due to code space. I'm sure there is even less code space now then
>> 2 years ago.
>> 
>>>>why do I need to spend memory and tiiiimmmeee for 3 auxes, to get one
>> chord (how for 5-7 note chord)?
>> Because that is how the P3 stores it's information. As indicated above,
>> the P3 was originally designed for Monophonic
>> use and then it was determined that if one used the Aux parts to hold
>> other Notes that one could create Chords and
>> hence P3 Polyphony was created. The other reason is because with the
>> limited code space, that is how it is. He would
>> have to restructure they way the P3 stores its information and uses it.
>> Sometimes things are very easy to say in words
>> but when it gets to actual coding around the current design, they can be
>> very difficult.
>> If you want chords/polyphony on a track with the P3,
>> then these are steps to achieve it. If you don't want to spend the
>> memory or tiiiimmmmmeeeee then
>> you can stick to monophonic sequences? For a 6-8 note chord, you need
>> to redirect your Auxes from another Track
>> to the Track that you want the additional Polyphony from for notes 6, 7,
>> & 8 ( I believe Aux A will be Redirect
>> to Track and then Aux B, C, D are for your chords.). 1 -5 can be done
>> on the original track.
>> 
>>>>I would rather use auxes for midi delays, echoes, than just for chord.
>> I as well. Thank goodness that Colin added the ability to redirect Aux
>> to other Tracks. So for example,
>> you can use Track 1 to create a 5 note chord, Track 2 to create add 3
>> more notes to Tracks1's Chord, and Track 3 to have
>> it's Aux' redirected to Track 1 to do their funky goodness. I think
>> now you can start to understand why I have
>> 2 P3's (as soon as I build my 2nd one). There's more then I want to do
>> than is available on a track. So you
>> double up or tripple up your Aux's and just Sequence less Synths from
>> each P3. So instead of sequencing 8 synths
>> from my P3, I'll be Sequencing 4 synths from each P3. Would I like to
>> do all of this on 1 P3, yep! But I don't think
>> CPU and ROM upgrades is something he's going to do.
>> 
>>>>It was the same with drone in the begining, p3 didnt have 13 lenght
>> nither.
>> Same with Polyphony. And to be honest, i'm fairly confident the code to
>> add length of 13/drone is MUCH smaller then adding the Chord inputting
>> method that you detailed. Somewhere, the P3 will have to store the type
>> of chords you want. That will eat away RAM and/or ROM depending on
>> how it's implemented.
>> 
>>>>Melodic part of all my music that I do, is from chords and drones and
>> I love using P3, just piss me off big time, to set chords from auxes all
>> the time.
>>>>My old QY70 trigers some fat chords and riffs so good that I had to
>> take it back from my little brother that I gave for present lont time ago.
>>>>I also use sx chorader for chords because setting an auxes for chords
>> is just nightmare.
>> 
>> Whew.. at least you have some work arounds. The rest of us just sit
>> down at our P3 and program them in or input them with a keyboard,
>> as I described them in the earlier keyboard..
>> I also think you can do something similiar with the MC-909 if you are
>> looking for another method as well.
>> 
>>>>P3 needs chords step pattern and chords scale menu because it can do
>> it easily.
>> I'm guessing this statement is incorrect. If there isn't enough code
>> space to put this, it is very difficult to add it. Try adding
>> water to a full glass and see what happens. Something has to come
>> out. I'm guessing that what you want will be delayed
>> to the P4.
>> 
>> I would love it on the P3 as well, but I'm just trying to be realistic
>> as to what will most likely come out. Definitely count me as
>> a Plus 5 (for the 5 that we've got here between the heads) for this
>> feature, but it doesn't look like it going to be something that could
>> be implmented until the P4.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
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