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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: syncing with cubase

2009-10-22 by Herman Dackenberg

Hi Sean,
I don't even have a P3 (waiting eagerly for the Cirklon), but unfortunately
I must say that MIDI in my experience, MIDI from PC's and Mac's are not that
tight. This also goes for MIDI-clock. I've been incredibly frustrated by
this for over 10 years, and decided to go with hardware sequencers and
Atari. Anyway, my experience with MIDI clock from PC's is that it's simply
not good enough - too much jitter. Of course some hardware configurations
are better than others, but the problem still persists.

Best regards,
Herman Dackenberg

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM, sean zoega <sean@zoega.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Colin, I now have MIDI-0x on my PC...just ordered a USB>MIDI
> cable so I can get the MIDI clock into the PC. I'll keep you posted.
> Thanks for the info on MTC, sounds like everybody is getting on just
> fine with MIDI clock apart from me...so I'm hoping that I can track down
> the problem soon..and get back to making noises
>
> cheers
> sean
>
> Colin f wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Colin...I will investigate. I have lodged a question
> > > with Steinberg as I cant see any mentions of problems on any
> > > notice boards.
> > > Also I'll do the simple stuff like buying a higher quality
> > > shorter MIDI lead.
> >
> > The sure way to see what's going in, if you can beg, borrow or steal
> > another
> > laptop, would be to pass the MIDI from Cubase to the P3 through something
> > like MIDI-Ox, so you can see exactly when MIDI clock bytes are being
> sent.
> > That should clear up very quickly whether there are any missing bytes,
> > clock
> > bytes bunched tightly together, or a.n.other problem.
> >
> > > Can I ask a more general question..you
> > > mention new modes of working with MIDI clock with Cirklon but
> > > from my investigations MTC would seem to be the preferred
> > > method of syncing equipment...is there a reason why you are
> > > not going this route?
> >
> > The new timing mechanism in Cirklon is going to allow support for MTC,
> > but I
> > still prefer MIDI clock.
> > MTC is a linear timecode. It doesn't carry any information about tempo
> but
> > rather provides an absolute timing reference, which a slaved device
> > can then
> > use to generate a pre-defined tempo clock.
> > This is primarily aimed at syncing devices where the tempo of a project
> is
> > fixed in advance, either at a single value, or at a series of values
> > defined
> > in a tempo map - essential if you're composing to a film or video source.
> > And it doesn't make much difference if you are locking MIDI tracks to
> > recorded audio tracks where the tempo is essentially fixed anyway.
> > I prefer to use MIDI clock, as I always set the tempo by feel, and
> > wouldn't
> > like to have a track tied to a certain tempo from the outset.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Colin Fraser
> > Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
> > http://www.sequentix.com <http://www.sequentix.com>
> >
> >
>
>  
>


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