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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: syncing with cubase

2009-10-25 by sean zoega

Just to let everyone know I have just ordered a sync-lock so I'll let 
you know if it works. I realise that my earlier question asking if 
anybody has tried it out was nonsense as the sync-lock is only just 
available. Its pretty expensive £300 by the time you have paid the 
postage and I dont know what the customs/VAT hit will be....but if it 
does work (and it better for £300!) then it will be great and will allow 
my whole studio to work in sync. The one thing that I have to try is to 
see wether I can merge the MIDI clock from sync-lock with MIDI note 
on/off messages from other controllers through the MOTO MIDI express 
without messing up the sync. As I have a varied collection of stuff 
(midi'd Jupiter 4, midi'd PPG wave 2.2, Oscar, CR78, Sequentix 
(obviously) and Korg 700s, Roland system 100/100m under Kenton control) 
it should be a reasonably thorough test. I'll let you know, if anybody 
in Chorlton has a sync 24 devive that we could try out it would complete 
the test. I must admit cant wait to get my old analogues working with 
Reaktor....best of both worlds.
cheers
sean

sean zoega wrote:
>  
>
> Colin, just read a fantastic article on the need for solid timing on the
> innerclock systems website by Steve Lipson
> thought you might also be interested
> http://web.webhost4life.com/innerclock/index.asp?action=page&name=36 
> <http://web.webhost4life.com/innerclock/index.asp?action=page&name=36>
> cheers
> sean
>
> Colin f wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Colin...I will investigate. I have lodged a question
> > > with Steinberg as I cant see any mentions of problems on any
> > > notice boards.
> > > Also I'll do the simple stuff like buying a higher quality
> > > shorter MIDI lead.
> >
> > The sure way to see what's going in, if you can beg, borrow or steal
> > another
> > laptop, would be to pass the MIDI from Cubase to the P3 through 
> something
> > like MIDI-Ox, so you can see exactly when MIDI clock bytes are being 
> sent.
> > That should clear up very quickly whether there are any missing bytes,
> > clock
> > bytes bunched tightly together, or a.n.other problem.
> >
> > > Can I ask a more general question..you
> > > mention new modes of working with MIDI clock with Cirklon but
> > > from my investigations MTC would seem to be the preferred
> > > method of syncing equipment...is there a reason why you are
> > > not going this route?
> >
> > The new timing mechanism in Cirklon is going to allow support for MTC,
> > but I
> > still prefer MIDI clock.
> > MTC is a linear timecode. It doesn't carry any information about 
> tempo but
> > rather provides an absolute timing reference, which a slaved device
> > can then
> > use to generate a pre-defined tempo clock.
> > This is primarily aimed at syncing devices where the tempo of a 
> project is
> > fixed in advance, either at a single value, or at a series of values
> > defined
> > in a tempo map - essential if you're composing to a film or video 
> source.
> > And it doesn't make much difference if you are locking MIDI tracks to
> > recorded audio tracks where the tempo is essentially fixed anyway.
> > I prefer to use MIDI clock, as I always set the tempo by feel, and
> > wouldn't
> > like to have a track tied to a certain tempo from the outset.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Colin Fraser
> > Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
> > http://www.sequentix.com <http://www.sequentix.com> 
> <http://www.sequentix.com <http://www.sequentix.com>>
> >
> >
>
> 


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