I never though P3 is difficult to use, for what it does I can't imagine a more intuitive interface despite of the small display. Have you tried a Jomox 999? Well, I love Jomox synthesis but it's a nightmare to program even with a bigger display. I don't need to see the sequencer bars on a display because I prefer to listen to the music than to watch it. Anyway, for me it's not a really big difference, only I said that I miss that P3 'flavour'. Perhaps is the colors combination or the colour of the screen or perhaps i don't like the leds trail when the sequencer is running. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Scott" <richard_scott@rwnc.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:20 PM To: <analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour > IMO this is confusing different things: The P3 is difficult to use not > because it wasn't a korg dj box but because the display is too small and > the multifucntion knobs and menus were neither classic, analogish nor > intuitive - oh, and because there is no manual for V4! > > As for the look - the utilitarian alu look was nice but hardly > unconventional, being used by both Behringer and Doepfer. I loved the > look of the P3, but personally when i saw that cirklon panel I thought, > wow! > > BUT I will say I hate those soft knobs, I think they do look > unprofessional and not in a cool way. Black knobs on a black unit is > also never a good idea for a stage instrument IMO (those MFB drum boxes > are a pretty stupid design for that reason). Whatever knobs colin > decides on I probably will replace them with cream coloured Davis knobs > anyway (now that is classic!) These will look beautiful and be very > visible against with a black panel too > > Richard > > Miguel Mendoza wrote: >> >> >> Well, I think that the big market already use Ableton Live and soft >> plugins, of course for many of those people P3 is too complicated as >> also a painted on black Cirklon will be. I don't see the point as >> marketing strategy too look more conventional. I really believe that >> most people who can be interested on a serious hardware sequencer >> preffer that arcane look as I think that arcane doesn't mean >> unprofessional (most of the times it means the opposite). >> >> If anyone like to have a look to other company as Dave Smith, they are >> changing their more important synths from an encoder interface to a >> classic knob layout and the public response has been great. >> >> Perhaps this is an interesting topic even to make a poll but of course >> Collin is who has to decide how his stuff look like and I'll buy the >> Cirklon even in pink but that's just me... >> >> From: Softroom >> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:18 PM >> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour >> >> Miguel Mendoza wrote: >> > Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3. >> The Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from >> Korg could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my >> P3. Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that >> way. Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look. >> >> You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional >> product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is >> amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks >> don't have time to practise so much anymore). >> Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his >> living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us. >> And up close, it looks great. >> >> Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller >> company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too. >> Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me) >> should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for >> the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like >> Dr T's KCS. Let's be optimistic gang!! >> >> :) >> >> -- >> Paul >> --- >> http://www.myspace.com/smokyfrog <http://www.myspace.com/smokyfrog> >> http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote <http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 1488 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour
2010-02-24 by Miguel Mendoza
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