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Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Miguel Mendoza

I never though P3 is difficult to use, for what it does I can't imagine a 
more intuitive interface despite of the small display. Have you tried a 
Jomox 999? Well, I love Jomox synthesis but it's a nightmare to program even 
with a bigger display. I don't need to see the sequencer bars on a display 
because I prefer to listen to the music than to watch it.

Anyway, for me it's not a really big difference, only  I said that I miss 
that P3 'flavour'. Perhaps is the colors combination or the colour of the 
screen or perhaps i don't like the leds trail when the sequencer is running.

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From: "Richard Scott" <richard_scott@rwnc.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:20 PM
To: <analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

> IMO this is confusing different things: The P3 is difficult to use not
> because it wasn't a korg dj box but because the display is too small and
> the multifucntion knobs and menus were neither classic, analogish nor
> intuitive - oh, and because there is no manual for V4!
>
> As for the look - the utilitarian alu look was nice but hardly
> unconventional, being used by both Behringer and Doepfer. I loved the
> look of the P3, but personally when i saw that cirklon panel I thought, 
> wow!
>
> BUT I will say I hate those soft knobs, I think they do look
> unprofessional and not in a cool way. Black knobs on a black unit is
> also never a good idea for a stage instrument IMO (those MFB drum boxes
> are a pretty stupid design for that reason). Whatever knobs colin
> decides on I probably will replace them with cream coloured Davis knobs
> anyway (now that is classic!) These will look beautiful and be very
> visible against with a black panel too
>
> Richard
>
> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
>>
>>
>> Well, I think that the big market already use Ableton Live and soft
>> plugins, of course for many of those people P3 is too complicated as
>> also a painted on black Cirklon will be. I don't see the point as
>> marketing strategy too look more conventional. I really believe that
>> most people who can be interested on a serious hardware sequencer
>> preffer that arcane look as I think that arcane doesn't mean
>> unprofessional (most of the times it means the opposite).
>>
>> If anyone like to have a look to other company as Dave Smith, they are
>> changing their more important synths from an encoder interface to a
>> classic knob layout and the public response has been great.
>>
>> Perhaps this is an interesting topic even to make a poll but of course
>> Collin is who has to decide how his stuff look like and I'll buy the
>> Cirklon even in pink but that's just me...
>>
>> From: Softroom
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:18 PM
>> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour
>>
>> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
>>  > Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3.
>> The Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from
>> Korg could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my
>> P3. Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that
>> way. Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.
>>
>> You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional
>> product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is
>> amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks
>> don't have time to practise so much anymore).
>> Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his
>> living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us.
>> And up close, it looks great.
>>
>> Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller
>> company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too.
>> Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me)
>> should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for
>> the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like
>> Dr T's KCS. Let's be optimistic gang!!
>>
>> :)
>>
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