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cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by kkonkkrete

Have you thought about making the knobs on the rotary controllers a different colour (e.g. white)?  Being black means under low light conditions it might not be so easy to see them.  Or in your experience is this not a problem.

Excited about this, especially with the CV/gate breakout.

RE: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Colin Fraser

> Have you thought about making the knobs on the rotary 
> controllers a different colour (e.g. white)?  Being black 
> means under low light conditions it might not be so easy to 
> see them.  Or in your experience is this not a problem.

I don't find it a problem - there is a fair bit of stray light from the LEDs
reflected back up through the gaps around the knobs.
Nagle sits in the dark more than me. Have you had any problems finding your
knobs in the dark Paul ?
The knobs are easier to see in real life than they are on the youtube video.
But I will probably be adding rings around the knob holes on the
engraving/silk screen, just to make them show up better in photos.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Softroom

Colin Fraser wrote:

> I don't find it a problem - there is a fair bit of stray light from the LEDs
> reflected back up through the gaps around the knobs.
> Nagle sits in the dark more than me. Have you had any problems finding your
> knobs in the dark Paul ?

Increasingly, as I get older.

> The knobs are easier to see in real life than they are on the youtube video.
> But I will probably be adding rings around the knob holes on the
> engraving/silk screen, just to make them show up better in photos.

I think rings round the knob holes must be the future. And maybe 
flourescent knob ends to show off at parties, please.

:)

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Colin Fraser

> Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from 
> the P3. The Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I 
> mean, something from Korg could have that look. I really like 
> more the laboratory look of my P3. Something like an analog 
> sequencer makes more sense to me in that way. Perhaps this is 
> only a prototype and not the final look.

What aspect of the design do you think makes the difference ?
Cirklon has the same knobs as P3. The key caps are different, but they are
the same switches.
And the text on the panel is all the same font.
I think the biggest visual difference comes from the colour.
I will have a silver coloured panel to try out soon.
There are also black key caps to try instead of white.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Miguel Mendoza

Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3. The Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from Korg could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my P3. Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that way. Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.

Just my opinion...

Regards.

Miguel.
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From: Colin Fraser 
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:02 PM
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour


  

> Have you thought about making the knobs on the rotary 
> controllers a different colour (e.g. white)? Being black 
> means under low light conditions it might not be so easy to 
> see them. Or in your experience is this not a problem.

I don't find it a problem - there is a fair bit of stray light from the LEDs
reflected back up through the gaps around the knobs.
Nagle sits in the dark more than me. Have you had any problems finding your
knobs in the dark Paul ?
The knobs are easier to see in real life than they are on the youtube video.
But I will probably be adding rings around the knob holes on the
engraving/silk screen, just to make them show up better in photos.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com





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Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Softroom

Miguel Mendoza wrote:
> Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3. The Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from Korg could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my P3. Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that way. Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.

You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional 
product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is 
amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks 
don't have time to practise so much anymore).
Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his 
living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us. 
And up close, it looks great.

Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller 
company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too.
Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me) 
should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for 
the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like 
Dr T's KCS.  Let's be optimistic gang!!

:)

-- 
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---
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http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote

Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Miguel Mendoza

Well, I think that the big market already use Ableton Live and soft plugins, of course for many of those people P3 is too complicated as also a painted on black Cirklon will be. I don't see the point as marketing strategy too look more conventional. I really believe that most people who can be interested on a serious hardware sequencer preffer that arcane look as I think that arcane doesn't mean unprofessional (most of the times it means the opposite). 

If anyone like to have a look to other company as Dave Smith, they are changing their more important synths from an encoder interface to a classic knob layout and the public response has been great.

Perhaps this is an interesting topic even to make a poll but of course Collin is who has to decide how his stuff look like and I'll buy the Cirklon even in pink but that's just me...
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From: Softroom 
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:18 PM
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour


  
Miguel Mendoza wrote:
> Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3. The Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from Korg could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my P3. Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that way. Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.

You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional 
product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is 
amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks 
don't have time to practise so much anymore).
Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his 
living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us. 
And up close, it looks great.

Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller 
company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too.
Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me) 
should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for 
the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like 
Dr T's KCS. Let's be optimistic gang!!

:)

-- 
Paul
---
http://www.myspace.com/smokyfrog
http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote





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Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Richard Scott

IMO this is confusing different things: The P3 is difficult to use not 
because it wasn't a korg dj box but because the display is too small and 
the multifucntion knobs and menus were neither classic, analogish nor 
intuitive - oh, and because there is no manual for V4!

As for the look - the utilitarian alu look was nice but hardly 
unconventional, being used by both Behringer and Doepfer. I loved the 
look of the P3, but personally when i saw that cirklon panel I thought, wow!

BUT I will say I hate those soft knobs, I think they do look 
unprofessional and not in a cool way. Black knobs on a black unit is 
also never a good idea for a stage instrument IMO (those MFB drum boxes 
are a pretty stupid design for that reason). Whatever knobs colin 
decides on I probably will replace them with cream coloured Davis knobs 
anyway (now that is classic!) These will look beautiful and be very 
visible against with a black panel too

Richard

Miguel Mendoza wrote:
>  
> 
> Well, I think that the big market already use Ableton Live and soft 
> plugins, of course for many of those people P3 is too complicated as 
> also a painted on black Cirklon will be. I don't see the point as 
> marketing strategy too look more conventional. I really believe that 
> most people who can be interested on a serious hardware sequencer 
> preffer that arcane look as I think that arcane doesn't mean 
> unprofessional (most of the times it means the opposite).
> 
> If anyone like to have a look to other company as Dave Smith, they are 
> changing their more important synths from an encoder interface to a 
> classic knob layout and the public response has been great.
> 
> Perhaps this is an interesting topic even to make a poll but of course 
> Collin is who has to decide how his stuff look like and I'll buy the 
> Cirklon even in pink but that's just me...
> 
> From: Softroom
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:18 PM
> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour
> 
> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
>  > Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3. 
> The Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from 
> Korg could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my 
> P3. Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that 
> way. Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.
> 
> You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional
> product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is
> amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks
> don't have time to practise so much anymore).
> Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his
> living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us.
> And up close, it looks great.
> 
> Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller
> company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too.
> Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me)
> should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for
> the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like
> Dr T's KCS. Let's be optimistic gang!!
> 
> :)
> 
> -- 
> Paul
> ---
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Tony Scharf

(raises hand)

I prefer a 'professional' look to a 'laboratory' look...but it doesnt
ultimately matter.

I doubt anyone is going to decide to buy one sequencer over another based on
aesthetics.  Given two otherwise equal choices, the aesthetics may become
the deciding factor but I highly doubt anyone is going to rule a piece of
equipment out based on aesthetics as a pimary reason (unless, of course, its
given a purple shag outer casing with glittery sequined face plate).

Tony

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Miguel Mendoza
<miguel@filminteractive.es>wrote:

>
>
> Well, I think that the big market already use Ableton Live and soft
> plugins, of course for many of those people P3 is too complicated as also a
> painted on black Cirklon will be. I don't see the point as marketing
> strategy too look more conventional. I really believe that most people who
> can be interested on a serious hardware sequencer preffer that arcane look
> as I think that arcane doesn't mean unprofessional (most of the times it
> means the opposite).
>
> If anyone like to have a look to other company as Dave Smith, they are
> changing their more important synths from an encoder interface to a classic
> knob layout and the public response has been great.
>
> Perhaps this is an interesting topic even to make a poll but of course
> Collin is who has to decide how his stuff look like and I'll buy the Cirklon
> even in pink but that's just me...
>
> From: Softroom
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:18 PM
>
> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com<analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour
>
>
> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
> > Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3. The
> Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from Korg
> could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my P3.
> Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that way.
> Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.
>
> You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional
> product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is
> amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks
> don't have time to practise so much anymore).
> Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his
> living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us.
> And up close, it looks great.
>
> Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller
> company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too.
> Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me)
> should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for
> the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like
> Dr T's KCS. Let's be optimistic gang!!
>
> :)
>
> --
> Paul
> ---
> http://www.myspace.com/smokyfrog
> http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Miguel Mendoza

I never though P3 is difficult to use, for what it does I can't imagine a 
more intuitive interface despite of the small display. Have you tried a 
Jomox 999? Well, I love Jomox synthesis but it's a nightmare to program even 
with a bigger display. I don't need to see the sequencer bars on a display 
because I prefer to listen to the music than to watch it.

Anyway, for me it's not a really big difference, only  I said that I miss 
that P3 'flavour'. Perhaps is the colors combination or the colour of the 
screen or perhaps i don't like the leds trail when the sequencer is running.

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From: "Richard Scott" <richard_scott@rwnc.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:20 PM
To: <analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

> IMO this is confusing different things: The P3 is difficult to use not
> because it wasn't a korg dj box but because the display is too small and
> the multifucntion knobs and menus were neither classic, analogish nor
> intuitive - oh, and because there is no manual for V4!
>
> As for the look - the utilitarian alu look was nice but hardly
> unconventional, being used by both Behringer and Doepfer. I loved the
> look of the P3, but personally when i saw that cirklon panel I thought, 
> wow!
>
> BUT I will say I hate those soft knobs, I think they do look
> unprofessional and not in a cool way. Black knobs on a black unit is
> also never a good idea for a stage instrument IMO (those MFB drum boxes
> are a pretty stupid design for that reason). Whatever knobs colin
> decides on I probably will replace them with cream coloured Davis knobs
> anyway (now that is classic!) These will look beautiful and be very
> visible against with a black panel too
>
> Richard
>
> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
>>
>>
>> Well, I think that the big market already use Ableton Live and soft
>> plugins, of course for many of those people P3 is too complicated as
>> also a painted on black Cirklon will be. I don't see the point as
>> marketing strategy too look more conventional. I really believe that
>> most people who can be interested on a serious hardware sequencer
>> preffer that arcane look as I think that arcane doesn't mean
>> unprofessional (most of the times it means the opposite).
>>
>> If anyone like to have a look to other company as Dave Smith, they are
>> changing their more important synths from an encoder interface to a
>> classic knob layout and the public response has been great.
>>
>> Perhaps this is an interesting topic even to make a poll but of course
>> Collin is who has to decide how his stuff look like and I'll buy the
>> Cirklon even in pink but that's just me...
>>
>> From: Softroom
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:18 PM
>> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour
>>
>> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
>>  > Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3.
>> The Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from
>> Korg could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my
>> P3. Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that
>> way. Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.
>>
>> You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional
>> product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is
>> amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks
>> don't have time to practise so much anymore).
>> Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his
>> living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us.
>> And up close, it looks great.
>>
>> Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller
>> company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too.
>> Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me)
>> should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for
>> the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like
>> Dr T's KCS. Let's be optimistic gang!!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> -- 
>> Paul
>> ---
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>> http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote <http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote>
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Miguel Mendoza

I can't see the point where 'laboratory' is 'opposite to professional'. And 
I think that aesthetic does matter. To put another example, imagine if 
Alesis would have created their Andromeda with a great vintage look. If 
someone know this synth already know what I'm speaking about.

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From: "Tony Scharf" <noisetheorem@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:30 PM
To: <analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

> (raises hand)
>
> I prefer a 'professional' look to a 'laboratory' look...but it doesnt
> ultimately matter.
>
> I doubt anyone is going to decide to buy one sequencer over another based 
> on
> aesthetics.  Given two otherwise equal choices, the aesthetics may become
> the deciding factor but I highly doubt anyone is going to rule a piece of
> equipment out based on aesthetics as a pimary reason (unless, of course, 
> its
> given a purple shag outer casing with glittery sequined face plate).
>
> Tony
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Miguel Mendoza
> <miguel@filminteractive.es>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Well, I think that the big market already use Ableton Live and soft
>> plugins, of course for many of those people P3 is too complicated as also 
>> a
>> painted on black Cirklon will be. I don't see the point as marketing
>> strategy too look more conventional. I really believe that most people 
>> who
>> can be interested on a serious hardware sequencer preffer that arcane 
>> look
>> as I think that arcane doesn't mean unprofessional (most of the times it
>> means the opposite).
>>
>> If anyone like to have a look to other company as Dave Smith, they are
>> changing their more important synths from an encoder interface to a 
>> classic
>> knob layout and the public response has been great.
>>
>> Perhaps this is an interesting topic even to make a poll but of course
>> Collin is who has to decide how his stuff look like and I'll buy the 
>> Cirklon
>> even in pink but that's just me...
>>
>> From: Softroom
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:18 PM
>>
>> To: 
>> analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com<analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour
>>
>>
>> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
>> > Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3. The
>> Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from Korg
>> could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my P3.
>> Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that way.
>> Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.
>>
>> You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional
>> product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is
>> amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks
>> don't have time to practise so much anymore).
>> Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his
>> living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us.
>> And up close, it looks great.
>>
>> Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller
>> company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too.
>> Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me)
>> should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for
>> the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like
>> Dr T's KCS. Let's be optimistic gang!!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> --
>> Paul
>> ---
>> http://www.myspace.com/smokyfrog
>> http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote
>>
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Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Josh B

Dave Smith Instruments are using pots because it's an analog synth and the
encoders were crap. Cirklon being a digital sequencer I don't really see
that being an issue... In fact encoders make mote sense to me.
Personally I liked the look of the silver cover in the first boot video
posted, and I usually vote for black gear. Either way it looks great.


On Feb 24, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Miguel Mendoza <miguel@filminteractive.es>
wrote:



Well, I think that the big market already use Ableton Live and soft plugins,
of course for many of those people P3 is too complicated as also a painted
on black Cirklon will be. I don't see the point as marketing strategy too
look more conventional. I really believe that most people who can be
interested on a serious hardware sequencer preffer that arcane look as I
think that arcane doesn't mean unprofessional (most of the times it means
the opposite).

If anyone like to have a look to other company as Dave Smith, they are
changing their more important synths from an encoder interface to a classic
knob layout and the public response has been great.

Perhaps this is an interesting topic even to make a poll but of course
Collin is who has to decide how his stuff look like and I'll buy the Cirklon
even in pink but that's just me...
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From: Softroom
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:18 PM
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com<analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

Miguel Mendoza wrote:
> Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3. The
Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from Korg
could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my P3.
Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that way.
Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.

You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional
product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is
amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks
don't have time to practise so much anymore).
Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his
living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us.
And up close, it looks great.

Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller
company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too.
Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me)
should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for
the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like
Dr T's KCS. Let's be optimistic gang!!

:)

-- 
Paul
---
http://www.myspace.com/smokyfrog
http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour

2010-02-24 by Josh

*more sense (stupid phone)

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Josh B <notjoshua@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave Smith Instruments are using pots because it's an analog synth and the
> encoders were crap. Cirklon being a digital sequencer I don't really see
> that being an issue... In fact encoders make mote sense to me.
> Personally I liked the look of the silver cover in the first boot video
> posted, and I usually vote for black gear. Either way it looks great.
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Miguel Mendoza <miguel@filminteractive.es>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, I think that the big market already use Ableton Live and soft
> plugins, of course for many of those people P3 is too complicated as also a
> painted on black Cirklon will be. I don't see the point as marketing
> strategy too look more conventional. I really believe that most people who
> can be interested on a serious hardware sequencer preffer that arcane look
> as I think that arcane doesn't mean unprofessional (most of the times it
> means the opposite).
>
> If anyone like to have a look to other company as Dave Smith, they are
> changing their more important synths from an encoder interface to a classic
> knob layout and the public response has been great.
>
> Perhaps this is an interesting topic even to make a poll but of course
> Collin is who has to decide how his stuff look like and I'll buy the Cirklon
> even in pink but that's just me...
>
> From: Softroom
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:18 PM
> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com<analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cirklon knob colour
>
> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
> > Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3. The
> Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from Korg
> could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my P3.
> Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that way.
> Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.
>
> You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional
> product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is
> amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks
> don't have time to practise so much anymore).
> Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his
> living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us.
> And up close, it looks great.
>
> Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller
> company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too.
> Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me)
> should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for
> the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like
> Dr T's KCS. Let's be optimistic gang!!
>
> :)
>
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> Paul
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Re: cirklon knob colour

2010-03-01 by Steven C

That is exactly it Paul... I miss that tight of my 1040STfm running Hybrid Arts Edit track - didn't realize how good I had it until I bought a PC... and then a Mac (better but not 1040)

I'm looking forward to this sequencer, but I'm also one of those that found the P3 a tad difficult to deal with and look forward to a better interface.  I've got time to practice now, was working full time and doing a degree with a young family when I bought the P3.  That said a few youtube helps vids are always appreciated :)

fingers are currently at the ready.

Steve

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, Softroom <softroom@...> wrote:
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>
> Miguel Mendoza wrote:
> > Hello, talking about the design, I'm missing something from the P3. The Circlon looks more like a serial made device, I mean, something from Korg could have that look. I really like more the laboratory look of my P3. Something like an analog sequencer makes more sense to me in that way. Perhaps this is only a prototype and not the final look.
> 
> You could put it another way. Cirklon looks more like a professional 
> product, not so arcane or, yeah, like something from a lab. The P3 is 
> amazing but was frequently accused of being hard to fathom (maybe folks 
> don't have time to practise so much anymore).
> Don't forget Colin needs to sell a fair few of these babies to earn his 
> living - so the more professional it looks, the better for all of us. 
> And up close, it looks great.
> 
> Korg do pretty well selling lots of instruments so let's hope a smaller 
> company with an innovative product can find a place in the market too.
> Last thought: Logic users sick of its primitive MIDI editors (e.g. me) 
> should be darn interested in Cirklon as should anyone still pining for 
> the tightness of the Atari ST or the freaky power of fun sequencers like 
> Dr T's KCS.  Let's be optimistic gang!!
> 
> :)
> 
> -- 
> Paul
> ---
> http://www.myspace.com/smokyfrog
> http://www.youtube.com/WilyEPeyote
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