Analogue-sequencer

Doh, so, my second post will hit some points I forgot in the first one! >_<;

First, I think a single channel of 1/4" CV out (pitch and gate) is sufficient; if you're going to build anything then I think you should go 1/4".  I mostly use banana, myself, but I think 1/4" are very reliable connectors that are also very easily and cheaply compatible with the most popular format (Euro).  You don't want to put 1/8" jacks on your quality sequencer, or you'll get a lot of bitching when they start to wobble.

Second, in case my first post wasn't clear, if you have the means to do CV in, by all means DO IT! :)  This simple feature will basically guarantee your machine a spot in the all-time sequencer hall of fame.  CV out is lots of fun and important but CV in (esp if you can support higher clock rates) is basically creating a whole new instrument out of your sequencer.  I'm sure you're quite familiar with this fact; and I'm 99% convinced that it would make converts of all your CV-doubting userbase now.  Reading your posts I can see you're already a fan of that kind of clock rate manip, but for the doubters I think it just has to be seen to be believed!  You could be the eye opener!

So, yeah, If you can also fit Clock in CV on the main box, well, that would be my ideal compromise, I think.  Clock in, Gate out, Pitch out, and DB25 connector to take it further..?  If possible, you will have certainly made one of the finest and most versatile sequencers ever made.

-Chris

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "chrispoops" <chrispoops@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Colin,
> 
> Sorry that this is my first post.  I joined to learn more about the P3, but when I found out about the Sequentix I decided to hold out until it's released.
> 
> I don't want to get into MIDI's past, but at this point, we can certainly see that its future is limited.  Of course, almost nobody would build a nice sequencer without it today!  So MIDI stays.  But this is a flagship, boutique device, right?  I think we are seeing more and more people return to CV control because it is so precise and largely uncorruptible.  The biggest advantage of the modular sequencers is actually CV IN, but CV out is probably a close second. Whatever you can do to give users the option to get real CV precision on as many tracks as possible, please do it.
> 
> You need to make some compromises here and there.  That is your job, even when making rather elite hardware.  However, I think the best compromises to be made are in areas like a breakout box.  Stick to the best possible signal path; don't sacrifice there.  Don't stick us with MIDI timing, I urge you!  This is a world-class product and hopefully, everyone will be able to use it to the fullest of ITS ability!
> 
> Good luck with manufacturing, and thanks for the consideration.
> 
> -Chris
> 
> --- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "sequentix" <colin@> wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> > 
> > I've got the factory poised to start making Cirklon cases, just as soon as I make my mind up on one. last. detail...
> > 
> > Is there any real value in having quarter inch or 3.5mm sockets on the Cirklon rear panel ?
> > The alternative is to have only a multi-pin connector, and require an external breakout box or splitter cable.
> > 
> > The largest number of individual sockets that could fit on the rear panel would be about 12.
> > With a 25-way D connector, there could be up to 16 CV outs, and 8 gates.
> > Or some other combination, possibly including some CV input.
> > 
> > If you're looking to pick up a Cirklon to integrate into an analogue setup, how would you see yourself using it ?
> > 
> > The most recent pre-production Cirklon has two channels of CV/gate on quarter inch sockets.
> > It struck me that this doesn't really offer much advantage over a MIDI to CV convertor - the worst case latency over MIDI for two notes being 2ms, which is easily compensated for.
> > For my own studio, my biggest timing issue was with the triggering via MIDI of my analogue percussion sounds.
> > The problem there is that multiple hits on the same beat are spread out by at least 0.65ms per instrument over MIDI.
> > The solution I came up with for that was to have Cirklon output a CV/trigger multiplex.
> > A simple external circuit turns that output into as many as 32 CV/gate pairs, in a fixed refresh period, with synchronised update of all the triggers, and essentially no CPU load on Cirklon, thanks to DMA.
> > I have a prototype of this running in my 808/909 clone (which has a mere 23 separate drum voices) and the improvement in tightness is immediately obvious.
> > 
> > Let me know what you think.
> > Preferably soon ;-)
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Colin Fraser
> > Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
> > http://www.sequentix.com
> >
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