Analogue-sequencer

>From: "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
>Reply-To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
>To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] cases..
>Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:03:20 +0100 (BST)

thanks colin.
please keep me posted on any developments. i'll be watching the posts closer 
from now on..
i do have access to parts if the whole kit is not available. i work for a 
small company here in portland OR. Hamptone Electronics. specializing in 
tube based products..I basicly solder and box kits. but the owner is great 
about helping me find any parts i need..
we recently did a tube mic pre kit for tape op mag, and scott the owner is 
working on a j-fet version.
kits are definantly a chore espescially if your supplier is unable to ship 
you parts in a kit form...i spent hours and hours just counting all tyhe 
resistors for each kit... any way i understand if you choose not to offer 
the complete kit. how much is the pcb and parts list running. do you have 
templates for the 2 housings?
thanks again collin.
what inspired your task??
talk soon
Gabe
>
>Hi Gabe,
>
> > my question is say i want to build one my self(asuming i have not
> > waited too long)
>
>The first run of kits is sold out, but hopefully there will be enough
>interest for a second run.
>
> > is any one going to produce the cases for a desk top version? for a
> > rack mount? hope this si not an overly redundant question.
>
>The desktop cases I've made so far have had the pot and LED holes drilled
>by hand, and the cut-outs for the LCD, keypad and switch board cut out
>using a hand-held metal nibbler.
>It needs a fair bit of filing and sanding to get the finish up to scratch,
>and then it needs to be re-painted. The end result is quite nice, but it
>takes me a good few hours of work to get it done, so I can't start mass
>producing them.
>
>I've also had a rack panel made by Schaeffer, which is obviously a much
>higher quality of finish, but I'm yet to come up with a satisfactory rear
>enclosure - my rack panel is sitting on a couple of pieces of wood at the
>moment, to hold it off the table.
>
>When I get the time, I'll investigate the cost of getting both the
>machining of the desktop case, and the construction of a rear end for the
>Schaeffer panel done professionally.
>I've been a bit too busy of late to do this yet.
>
> > how much is the diy kit? are all diodes,resistors,
> > caps,knobs, ect. included..?
>
>I'll be costing the full kit soon too. I've got a couple of 'test' kits to
>put together to see how much effort it takes.
>
>Cheers,
>Colin f
>
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> i do have access to parts if the whole kit is not available. i work for a
> small company here in portland OR. Hamptone Electronics. specializing in
> tube based products..I basicly solder and box kits. but the owner is great
> about helping me find any parts i need..

You shouldn't find any of the parts hard to source. They are mostly
standard 7400 series and 4000 series logic ICs, and a few common resistors
and caps. I'll post the bill of materials with part numbers for some
common suppliers soon.

> i spent hours and hours just counting all tyhe
> resistors for each kit...

The nice thing about an essentially digital project is that there aren't
that many different values of component - only about 4 or 5 different
resistor values and maybe 3 or 4 caps.
Not offering the full kit is a good way to keep the cost down, especially
since so many are being shipped abroad - import duty can add significantly
to the cost. You're much more likely to be hit with tax if the item being
shipped is above a certain price. Hopefully not too many people will be
stung for duty on the PCB/CPU kits.

> how much is the pcb and parts list running.

PCB/CPU kits were 60 ukp in the first run, but the price will go up in the
second run, as I was taking into account the beta status of the software.
I'm yet to add up the total of the rest of the parts, but it's roughly 100
ukp. Still very cheap for what it is though !

> do you have templates for the 2 housings?

I have Schaeffer front panel designer files for both, but the desktop
version file is just for use as a printed-out template for centre punching
the holes.
I'll post these before too long !

> what inspired your task??

You'll find the background in the p3-history.txt file in the Yahoo group
files section.

Cheers,
Colin f




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Well guys, had a "relaxing" afternoon and improvised these new pieces
on the P3, courtesy of the indispensible "Part Copy" command.

Thanks Colin!!

It's just the P3 driving a Novation Nova with some Vermona PerFourmer
in there for good measure. Not high art, well the high is right....
did I do that hilarious quip last week, around this time?

Enjoy,

Paul

www.bogusfocus.com/mp3/ P3_Stoned4-10.mp3


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                           www.BogusFocus.com

> Well guys, had a "relaxing" afternoon and improvised these new pieces
> on the P3, courtesy of the indispensible "Part Copy" command.
> 
> Thanks Colin!!
> 
> It's just the P3 driving a Novation Nova with some Vermona PerFourmer
> in there for good measure. 

This is so much easier than coming up with demo tracks myself ;-)
Thanks Paul !

Colin f

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:27:27 +0100, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>This is so much easier than coming up with demo tracks myself ;-)
>Thanks Paul !

Uh, my head.... I spose I should go listen to them myself now and
check them for "frightening strangeness".... 

But the P3 passes my vital "can I operate it when stoned?" test. It's
surprisingly fast to navigate around and I really feel I could
improvise the sequencer parts for an entire gig now with no fear. 

Paul
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Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
                           www.BogusFocus.com

Hi, 

Just joined the list. Looks like I missed the first boat. But I will 
be on the second one for sure! I am in NYC. If there is anything I 
can do to help the process, just let me know.

I want to put one of these next to my notron and see how they get on!

Ravi

After reading this post, and listening to *all* the great mp3s, I am 
totally sold on the P3. And I promise to perform with it.

Ravi