Analogue-sequencer

Hi;




>Did you perfom a memory initialise first time you started P3 ?  Yes, I 
am doing another one every time I get stuck....


> > The tie function seems not working exactly like the 303 or 202 , 
all the
> > steps gets triggered instead of a tie
>
>There is no intrinsic 'tied note' message in midi - tieing two notes
>together means the note off for the first note is not sent until after 
the
>note on for the following note - the notes overlap. In most synths 
working
>in mono-mode, this means the two notes will be played legato. If your 
synth
>(or CV convertor) support 'auto' (i.e. legato) glide, then it will 
perform a
>303 type slide. You need to have triggering set to single trigger too.


I am testing the sequencer my my nord lead 2, when I master it, I will 
connect to logic and the Kenton Pro-4

More questions;

When you do a pattern, Why isn't possible to record it at another place as 
the MAQ 16-3 lets you do? I don´t want to delete the prior version.

How can I copy that pattern to per example number 15 to have it untouched at 
the memory'

Finally I thought it was the ultmimate sequencer, I have had almost all the 
analogue sequencers and the only able to do different notes sequences like  
tu,tu,tu silence, tu tu, tuuuuuuuu,tu tuuuuuuuu  was the 202, I can´t work 
it again it seems like another pseudo arpeggiator like the SQ-10 or the MAQ 
when all the notes have the same value, tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,     not 
tu,tuuuuuuuum,tuuuu,tuu ( sorry)


Thanks;

Hans

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On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 15:19:35 +0200, "Hans Greuber"
<turbotron69@hotmail.com> wrote:

>When you do a pattern, Why isn't possible to record it at another place as 
>the MAQ 16-3 lets you do? I don´t want to delete the prior version.

It is possible. Cheer up man, it's not all doom and gloom you know!
When you are about to save the pattern, do you see the number? Select
another pattern number with the step keys (the number will change)
before saving -  and  hey presto your first remains intact and your
edited one is saved as the pattern number you specify. 

Did my previous explanation help with the channel confusion BTW?

>How can I copy that pattern to per example number 15 to have it untouched at 
>the memory'

You have seen the copy/paste options? They aren't all-powerful but not
bad. There is no "pattern copy" as such. 

>Finally I thought it was the ultmimate sequencer, I have had almost all the 
>analogue sequencers and the only able to do different notes sequences like  
>tu,tu,tu silence, tu tu, tuuuuuuuu,tu tuuuuuuuu  was the 202, I can´t work 
>it again it seems like another pseudo arpeggiator like the SQ-10 or the MAQ 
>when all the notes have the same value, tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,     not 
>tu,tuuuuuuuum,tuuuu,tuu ( sorry)

I have also used almost all the analogue sequencers and a fair
proportion of the digital ones (step sequencers I mean here, of
course). Other than the Notron, I can't think of *any* currently
available device that comes so close to deserving the title "ultimate"
as the P3. That isn't to say I wouldn't like more controls, more
lights, more lights, more lights, but once you learn it, it is pretty
amazing. And I'm sorry I don't quite understand your last paragraph
here. If you can describe what it is you want to achieve, I'll try to
help. Once you learn your way round the UI it is both fast and
powerful. But I agree it is not intuitive from day one - it took me a
long time to understand and appreciate playlists, for example. 

Be patient and mellow, keep asking.

Paul
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Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com

Paul Nagle (06:42 AM 6/9/2004) wrote:

 >>Finally I thought it was the ultmimate sequencer, I have had almost all the
 >>analogue sequencers and the only able to do different notes sequences like
 >>tu,tu,tu silence, tu tu, tuuuuuuuu,tu tuuuuuuuu  was the 202, I can´t work
 >>it again it seems like another pseudo arpeggiator like the SQ-10 or the MAQ
 >>when all the notes have the same value, tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,     not
 >>tu,tuuuuuuuum,tuuuu,tuu ( sorry)
 >
 >And I'm sorry I don't quite understand your last paragraph
 >here.

If I can try to translate... :)

He's saying that he'd like to program a sequence with different step 
(and/or gate?) times in each step. Right now he's only getting 
"tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu" when he'd like to get "tu,tuuuuuuuum,tuuuu,tuu".

The reference to the 202 was to point out that with that machine he was 
able to get "tu, tu, tu,silence, tu tu, tuuuuuuuu, tu tuuuuuuuu".


Mark

on 09-06-2004 16:07, Paul Nagle at softroom@btinternet.com wrote:

>> He's saying that he'd like to program a sequence with different step
>> (and/or gate?) times in each step. Right now he's only getting
>> "tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu" when he'd like to get "tu,tuuuuuuuum,tuuuu,tuu".
> 
> Aaaaah.
> 
>> The reference to the 202 was to point out that with that machine he was
>> able to get "tu, tu, tu,silence, tu tu, tuuuuuuuu, tu tuuuuuuuu".
> 
> Using ties and note lengths you can do this. Note length is good for
> making some notes staccatto and if you want to make one note several
> steps longer than others, have a series of identical notes with tie
> between them. Correct or am I in fantasy land again? (always
> possible).

No, you're absolutely right. Actually did these kind of things last weekend.

Keep smiling Hans, you bought one of the deepest stepsequencers around.
Maybe a bit tough in the beginning to learn, but *after* you passed that...
:-)))))))

Pure stepsequence heaven!!

Boele

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 06:42:43 -0700, Mark Pulver <mark@midiwall.com>
wrote:

>If I can try to translate... :)

Hehe, try? I'm sure you'll succeed dude!

>He's saying that he'd like to program a sequence with different step 
>(and/or gate?) times in each step. Right now he's only getting 
>"tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu,tu" when he'd like to get "tu,tuuuuuuuum,tuuuu,tuu".

Aaaaah.

>The reference to the 202 was to point out that with that machine he was 
>able to get "tu, tu, tu,silence, tu tu, tuuuuuuuu, tu tuuuuuuuu".

Using ties and note lengths you can do this. Note length is good for
making some notes staccatto and if you want to make one note several
steps longer than others, have a series of identical notes with tie
between them. Correct or am I in fantasy land again? (always
possible).
And that's before we get to Aux events and varying the tbase during
the pattern (I didn't really want to go there at this stage though...
8).

Anyway, the P3's gotta work within the confines of MIDI - and MIDI
does not allow you to distinguish between notes and gates like in the
good old days... 

Paul

P.S. The 202 wasn't *really* a step sequencer - any more than the one
in my SH-101 is.  8-)
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Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com