Analogue-sequencer

Hi,
I just want to say I finished my sequencer last week, but I didn't 
have the time to report it. I finished it on 31-8 saturdaynight, but 
then I found out that I only ordered one s-RAM chip instead of two, 
really frustrating. So on tuesday I got the other RAM chip, and I 
powered the machine on. It seemed allright, but after the flickering 
start modus/firmwarecheck, the LCD display and the LED's started to 
blink and flicker real fast. I didn't know what to do, cause I didn't 
have a computer with internet at the place I was living last months, 
and we (I live in a group) were about to move to another place so all 
was really busy. But after two days I was able to check my mail and I 
red about the reset function (F1+step7) So I did, and then I got a 
complete working sequencer. But, for we were moving, I didn't have 
the time to play with it. Only in bed after the hard work I had some 
time to find out about the machine, and I loved it. 
So last Saturday we gave a home-leaving party and I did a live-gig 
with my friends, using the P3 to control my Tony Algood's 3031. And 
there were a lot of stunned people asking my what kind of wonderful 
machine I was using, with all those flashing LED's and stuff. 
Chiel was also there and he told me that his mainboard was about to 
arrive on monday, so I'm really glad I just red that he also got a 
running machine now. We have to jam some time, Chiel!
When I find some time I'll make some pictures, for I used a blank 
aluminium plate and cutted my own frontpanel out of it.
Colin thank you for this machine!!!!, 
And count me in for the R-3!!!!! 
Cheers,
Roel

hi there,


ive been thinking about signing on the dotted line for the next run of boards...

ive had quite a problem finding a sequencer that i feel happy with, and have been through a selection in the past.  at the moment im using a couple of mam sq16, which i love for what they do, but they dont do all that much.

id be most interested to hear from anyone who has used both the sq16s and the p3...

im realy looking for something that has cc's (will the p3 ever have more then 4 cc's ?) and that will be a but nicer to shape melodies of more than 16 steps on (yes, you can do this with the mams, but im sure there must be nicer ways)  melodies looping on 16 bars would be good, with a nice interface to program them.

i looked at the doepfer regelwerk, but with an inability to set individual gate lengths, i can hardly see how it can call itself a sequencer, and the rm1x is kinda ok too, but ever since getting my hands on a 606 the idea of stopping to swap modes seems ridiculous.  plus going through all those menu levels... worse then my mobile phone :/

anyway, i guess by now you know what im on about, so if anyone's got any comments, they'd be much appreciated :)

cheers, julian





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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:24:25 +0100, "Julian" <julian@22host24.com>
wrote:

>id be most interested to hear from anyone who has used both the sq16s and the p3...

I have.

>im realy looking for something that has cc's (will the p3 ever have more then 4 cc's ?) and that will be a but nicer to shape melodies of more than 16 steps on (yes, you can do this with the mams, but im sure there must be nicer ways)  melodies looping on 16 bars would be good, with a nice interface to program them.

The P3 can send 32 CCs (8 tracks x 4 ccs per track). And you can do
stuff more than 16 steps - checkout playlists and also realtime record
options...

>i looked at the doepfer regelwerk, but with an inability to set individual gate lengths, i can hardly see how it can call itself a sequencer, and the rm1x is 

So my ARP sequencer is not a sequencer? Wow....

I think it is important to look at what step sequencers offer and
compare step sequencers across the board. The P3 currently stands
above any existing sequencer for my own needs.... but our needs may
vary.

Paul
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          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com
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> It seemed allright, but after the flickering 
> start modus/firmwarecheck, the LCD display and the LED's started to 
> blink and flicker real fast.

That's down to some inconsistent state data somewhere.
It didn't used to do that, but started a few versions ago.
I'll try to sort it out so it doesn't do it...

> But after two days I was able to check my mail and I 
> red about the reset function (F1+step7) So I did, and then I got a 
> complete working sequencer.

I guess I should have stated that more clearly on the front page of the
manual and web page - you MUST do a power on wipe first time you boot
P3, or you WILL get weird shit happening. Of course, some people like
weird shit ;-)
As I said above, the strange display loop is a new side effect of
un-initialised state, but even if that doesn't happen, you may have
other strange things happen.

> And count me in for the R-3!!!!! 

When I do finally get round to it, R3 will just be an alternate firmware
image for P3.
You'll be able to back up your patterns by sysex, re-flash with R3, and
then try it out.
If you like it, building another set of boards should be easy.

While the R3 firmware is still on the drawing board, I'm open to any
feature suggestions.
The basic idea at the moment is to have patterns holding 16
velocity/controller values per step. Each pattern will be associated
with a 'kit' which will define which midi note/controller and channel
each of the 16 'instruments' will transmit.
Plus there will be the usual shuffle, flam etc. you would find on any
x0x type drum machine.
And you'll be able to chain, playlist, swap kits, layer patterns etc.

Cheers,
Colin f

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:48:52 +0100, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>When I do finally get round to it, R3 will just be an alternate firmware
>image for P3.
>You'll be able to back up your patterns by sysex, re-flash with R3, and
>then try it out.

Awesome! Sounds very arty to me, said the herpetologist.. will there
be a version that makes it into an effects unit too?

Paul

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          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com
Space Centre gig in Sept - checkout www.SpankTheDarkMonkey.co.uk for details

Paul,

> Awesome! Sounds very arty to me, said the herpetologist.. will there be
> a version that makes it into an effects unit too?

<ROFLMAO>

and a vocoder?

Paul

> Awesome! Sounds very arty to me, said the herpetologist.. will there
> be a version that makes it into an effects unit too?

I think that might need a little extra hardware, if you want it to run
in real-time.
It could handle receiving a 2 second 8 bit sample over midi sample dump,
then transferring it back once processed, but it wouldn't have quite the
same interactive feel to it...

Colin f

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:29:07 +0100, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>I think that might need a little extra hardware, if you want it to run
>in real-time.

I didn't say *audio* effects.... 8-)

Paul
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> I didn't say *audio* effects.... 8-)

Ah, right.
What sort of effects had you in mind ?
Visual ? 
I was thinking of doing a few variations of the power on light show,
with a random selection...

Colin f

PS I'm guessing you really mean MIDI.

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:31:19 +0100, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>PS I'm guessing you really mean MIDI. 

8-)

Of course *I* like dedicated boxes - but there are some weirdos out
there who just want to reprogram everything. I bet they have to watch
out when they turn their freezer into an oven though....

Paul (demob happy - 2 weeks off now and plenty of P3 practice before
gig!)
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Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com
Space Centre gig in Sept - checkout www.SpankTheDarkMonkey.co.uk for details