Analogue-sequencer

Hi colin/folks
 
                    a couple of questions on functions of the p3.
 
Is it possible to do a trick i use to do on an old and now burnt out binned notron (no name dropping intended!) 
 
The trick was that you could grab a dial and in realtime as a sequence was running dial back or step back a sequence as it ran so if you were clever you could get notes repeating and quite literally jump a sequence back and forth  but the real novelty was that you could do this easily on all 4 sequences and so take 4 tracks and very quickly alter their timing relationship in realtime  . . . i guess what i am saying is . . . 
 
whilst the sequencer runs can i somehow step back a sequence relative to the others by hand  ? by maybe tapping a button in the case of the P3? 
 
I hope that made sense :) 
 
matt


privat_joy <privat_joy@yahoo.de> wrote:
--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Colin f" <colin@c...> wrote:
>  
> > From your website:
> > 
> > " Most recently, the Atmel AT89C51ED2 is being used, since 
> > the Temic part was discontinued. This has given another clock 
> > speed increase, and larger flash ROM."
> > 
> > Does this meen that theres more rom to implament features?
> 
> It works out there's 1k more useable ROM space than the older CPU.
>  
> > And, if so, im guessing that youll use it.
> 
> I'll use it if I need to. Fortunately SDCC 2.4 (the C compiler I use to
> build to P3 firmware) produces noticably more efficient code than the
> previous version. The current P3 test build is at 469 pages of a
possible
> 492 in the original CPU, or 500 in the newer (pages being 128 bytes). So
> there's plenty room for the time being.
> The current release build is smaller than the test build too - I'm
working
> on a simplified playlist edit mode, and transmission of controller
messages
> from the knobs in play mode.
>  
> > And then im wondering about older macines...
> 
> If it comes to the point where the code size exceeds the capacity of the
> older CPU, and someone wants to upgrade, I'll be happy to supply a CPU
> upgrade for minimal cost.
> 
> Cheers,
> Colin f

That's more than fair! Thanks in advance...
Stefan





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matt ishq wrote:
> Hi colin/folks
> 
>                     a couple of questions on functions of the p3.
> 
> Is it possible to do a trick i use to do on an old and now burnt out
> binned notron (no name dropping intended!) 
> 
> The trick was that you could grab a dial and in realtime as a
> sequence was running dial back or step back a sequence as it ran so
> if you were clever you could get notes repeating and quite literally
> jump a sequence back and forth  but the real novelty was that you
> could do this easily on all 4 sequences and so take 4 tracks and very
> quickly alter their timing relationship in realtime  . . . i guess
> what i am saying is . . .      
> 
> whilst the sequencer runs can i somehow step back a sequence relative
> to the others by hand  ? by maybe tapping a button in the case of the
> P3?  
> 
> I hope that made sense :)

I do this by muting or skipping notes in one (or more) of the sequences.

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

> Is it possible to do a trick i use to do on an old and now 
> burnt out binned notron (no name dropping intended!) 
>  
> The trick was that you could grab a dial and in realtime as a 
> sequence was running dial back or step back a sequence as it 
> ran so if you were clever you could get notes repeating and 
> quite literally jump a sequence back and forth  but the real 
> novelty was that you could do this easily on all 4 sequences 
> and so take 4 tracks and very quickly alter their timing 
> relationship in realtime  . . . i guess what i am saying is . . . 
>  
> whilst the sequencer runs can i somehow step back a sequence 
> relative to the others by hand  ? by maybe tapping a button 
> in the case of the P3? 

Interesting idea...
In pattern edit, you can force a reset, or step an extra step forward using
the 'sync' softkey, but there's no method in play mode to mess with pattern
positions across all tracks.
Seems like it would really need endless encoders to do it in the same way as
the Notron.
So it's really a question of how it would be implemented in the UI.
At the moment, RUN + <track> allows you to tweak pattern directions
dynamically, but I don't think that's documented, so maybe no-one uses it. I
could always re-assign that to pattern reset, or manual step advance.
I shall put it on my list of things to ponder ;-)

Cheers,
Colin f

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Colin f wrote:

> At the moment, RUN + <track> allows you to tweak pattern directions
> dynamically, but I don't think that's documented, so maybe no-one uses it. I
> could always re-assign that to pattern reset, or manual step advance.

whoa!!! i would've used it had i known it was there! how does it work?
does it just cycle through the different directions???

(btw... i do like this guy's idea...)

bleep.
out.

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http://leichenfeld.iuma.com
http://thirdwavecollective.com

> whoa!!! i would've used it had i known it was there! how does it work?
> does it just cycle through the different directions???

Yeah, just advances through them with each press.
I'd forgotten about it myself, until I was thinking about using it for step
advance...
 
> (btw... i do like this guy's idea...)

I'm going to add in another user config byte, so potentially it could be a
toggleable option.

Cheers,
Colin f