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2005-09-10 by jimcombsus
I'm trying to backup my P3 data into SysEx and am having a problem getting the program to capture the data. Capturing the P3 dump worked for me last weekend and I used the SysEx program to update my firmware last night, so connections and transmissions seem to be ok. Any helpful hints anyone can throw at me would be appreciated. BTW, I'm using SysEx v4.8.0 on a Mac on OS9.1 -Jim
2005-09-10 by jimcombsus
--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "jimcombsus" <jwcombs@b...> wrote: > I'm trying to backup my P3 data into SysEx and am having a problem > getting the program to capture the data. I solved the issue by disconnecting the P3 from all midi devices, recabling from channel 7 to channel 8 on my MOTU MIDI Timepiece AV. It was probably either a cable connection issue or I need to investigate channel 7 on the MTP. Oh well, onward and upward. To Different Skies! -Jim www.touchxtone.com
2005-09-10 by Richard Scott
Hi I'm using the P3 partly as a midi thru box between an IBKcontrol 10 midi controller, which is controlling an Eventide Eclipse via midi channel 1. With the P3 not running but set to midi thru F1 sometimes the CC#s from the ibk are not properly recognised by the Eclipse. If I take the P3 out of the chain the messages are transmitted perfectly. Is there any setting or reason internal to the P3 which could possibly have this effect?? Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-09-10 by Richard Scott
Hi Colin I'm still on 3.1.005 but will attempt the beta, its a mysterious issue but tangibly a problem - tried new leads, intialised bank, different outputs, rebooting etc. but for some reason the P3 is not passing the data thru intact. I'll try the beta version tommorrow... I just recorded my first P3 piece, sound like Autechre eating Rice Krispies :) that'll do me man Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin f
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] thru issue
> I'm using the P3 partly as a midi thru box between an
> IBKcontrol 10 midi controller, which is controlling an
> Eventide Eclipse via midi channel 1. With the P3 not running
> but set to midi thru F1 sometimes the CC#s from the ibk are
> not properly recognised by the Eclipse. If I take the P3 out
> of the chain the messages are transmitted perfectly.
>
> Is there any setting or reason internal to the P3 which could
> possibly have this effect??
Are you still on the release version 3.1.005, or the newer beta ?
There have been no reports of thru problems in the release version.
Paul N thought he might have had a problem with the .006 beta, which added a
fair bit of complexity to the thru code since it's now handling a single
channel for record. I decided to re-write it in the most recent build,
because it had got a bit too complex for my liking, so it would be
interesting to know if you get the same problem with that build.
It could be there was a subtle problem in the release version that still
affected the previous beta.
We're approaching a release version, but if you want to see if the current
beta fixes your problem, it would be useful to know.
While I'm on the subject, the latest build adds 'groups' to make the
selection of aux events simpler.
By pressing FUNC while selecting an aux event, you toggle between the events
and higher level groups of events.
When selecting an event, the members of each group are spread over the whole
DATA knob, making it easier to find and select each one.
Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-09-10 by Richard Scott
Hi Colin, it occurs to me something else could be pumping the same CC#s thru the P3 on a different channel and causing the problemard. Will experiment and tell you for sure before trying the new beta Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Scott
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] thru issue
Hi Colin
I'm still on 3.1.005 but will attempt the beta, its a mysterious issue but tangibly a problem - tried new leads, intialised bank, different outputs, rebooting etc. but for some reason the P3 is not passing the data thru intact. I'll try the beta version tommorrow...
I just recorded my first P3 piece, sound like Autechre eating Rice Krispies :) that'll do me man
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin f
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] thru issue
> I'm using the P3 partly as a midi thru box between an
> IBKcontrol 10 midi controller, which is controlling an
> Eventide Eclipse via midi channel 1. With the P3 not running
> but set to midi thru F1 sometimes the CC#s from the ibk are
> not properly recognised by the Eclipse. If I take the P3 out
> of the chain the messages are transmitted perfectly.
>
> Is there any setting or reason internal to the P3 which could
> possibly have this effect??
Are you still on the release version 3.1.005, or the newer beta ?
There have been no reports of thru problems in the release version.
Paul N thought he might have had a problem with the .006 beta, which added a
fair bit of complexity to the thru code since it's now handling a single
channel for record. I decided to re-write it in the most recent build,
because it had got a bit too complex for my liking, so it would be
interesting to know if you get the same problem with that build.
It could be there was a subtle problem in the release version that still
affected the previous beta.
We're approaching a release version, but if you want to see if the current
beta fixes your problem, it would be useful to know.
While I'm on the subject, the latest build adds 'groups' to make the
selection of aux events simpler.
By pressing FUNC while selecting an aux event, you toggle between the events
and higher level groups of events.
When selecting an event, the members of each group are spread over the whole
DATA knob, making it easier to find and select each one.
Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-09-10 by Colin f
> I'm using the P3 partly as a midi thru box between an > IBKcontrol 10 midi controller, which is controlling an > Eventide Eclipse via midi channel 1. With the P3 not running > but set to midi thru F1 sometimes the CC#s from the ibk are > not properly recognised by the Eclipse. If I take the P3 out > of the chain the messages are transmitted perfectly. > > Is there any setting or reason internal to the P3 which could > possibly have this effect?? Are you still on the release version 3.1.005, or the newer beta ? There have been no reports of thru problems in the release version. Paul N thought he might have had a problem with the .006 beta, which added a fair bit of complexity to the thru code since it's now handling a single channel for record. I decided to re-write it in the most recent build, because it had got a bit too complex for my liking, so it would be interesting to know if you get the same problem with that build. It could be there was a subtle problem in the release version that still affected the previous beta. We're approaching a release version, but if you want to see if the current beta fixes your problem, it would be useful to know. While I'm on the subject, the latest build adds 'groups' to make the selection of aux events simpler. By pressing FUNC while selecting an aux event, you toggle between the events and higher level groups of events. When selecting an event, the members of each group are spread over the whole DATA knob, making it easier to find and select each one. Best regards, Colin Fraser Sequentix Music Systems Ltd http://www.sequentix.com
2005-09-10 by Colin f
> I just recorded my first P3 piece, sound like Autechre eating > Rice Krispies :) that'll do me man Well I hope you're going to post a snippet somewhere ;-) Aside from one hugely disappointing recent live appearance, I'm still a big autechre fan... Best regards, Colin Fraser Sequentix Music Systems Ltd http://www.sequentix.com
2005-09-10 by Richard Scott
Hi Colin I've satisfied myself that nothing else is causing the midi CC# discrepency - with all other units switched out or unplugged the IBK knobs send out incorrect data and are slower than usual when the P3 is attached as a thru. Will try with the latest beta when i get a chance.... P.S. i'd be happy to up some of my distorted groovy P3 creation but I don't have a website and haven't a clue how to go about it - BTW autechre have been hugely important to me this year (I'm a late convert) and have led pretty much directly to my P3 purchase. I always liked stockhausen and I love funk, autechre put those two elements together (with maths, which I'm less keen on) in a way I find pretty compelling. I'm very much about trying to work out how to compose and freely improvise with those kinds of materials - as i am too thick/anti computer to really ever figure out my Nord G2 engine I believe the P3 is gonna be a goddam dream in this regard
From: Richard Scott
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] thru issue
Hi Colin, it occurs to me something else could be pumping the same CC#s thru the P3 on a different channel and causing the problemard. Will experiment and tell you for sure before trying the new beta
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Scott
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] thru issue
Hi Colin
I'm still on 3.1.005 but will attempt the beta, its a mysterious issue but tangibly a problem - tried new leads, intialised bank, different outputs, rebooting etc. but for some reason the P3 is not passing the data thru intact. I'll try the beta version tommorrow...
I just recorded my first P3 piece, sound like Autechre eating Rice Krispies :) that'll do me man
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin f
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] thru issue
> I'm using the P3 partly as a midi thru box between an
> IBKcontrol 10 midi controller, which is controlling an
> Eventide Eclipse via midi channel 1. With the P3 not running
> but set to midi thru F1 sometimes the CC#s from the ibk are
> not properly recognised by the Eclipse. If I take the P3 out
> of the chain the messages are transmitted perfectly.
>
> Is there any setting or reason internal to the P3 which could
> possibly have this effect??
Are you still on the release version 3.1.005, or the newer beta ?
There have been no reports of thru problems in the release version.
Paul N thought he might have had a problem with the .006 beta, which added a
fair bit of complexity to the thru code since it's now handling a single
channel for record. I decided to re-write it in the most recent build,
because it had got a bit too complex for my liking, so it would be
interesting to know if you get the same problem with that build.
It could be there was a subtle problem in the release version that still
affected the previous beta.
We're approaching a release version, but if you want to see if the current
beta fixes your problem, it would be useful to know.
While I'm on the subject, the latest build adds 'groups' to make the
selection of aux events simpler.
By pressing FUNC while selecting an aux event, you toggle between the events
and higher level groups of events.
When selecting an event, the members of each group are spread over the whole
DATA knob, making it easier to find and select each one.
Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com
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