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newbie q

2005-09-10 by richardscott

Yo ho

Can anyone help me with this? I want to have patterns on
tracks 1 and 2 and then use tracks 3-8 to randomise, disrupt
and generally mess up these patterns live, preferably just
by flipping on and off the tracks rather than having to dig
into the menu too much onstage. I guess this what auxes are
for but I'm still struggling with the sheer depth of this
machine. There are complex things I want to achieve with it
in the long run in but I'm using the P3 to control a nord
micro and an Akai mpc1000 recording and performing ina few
days (advert: Lancaster jazz festival next Thursday with
Grutronic and Evan Parker) next week so I realise I have to
come up with quick solutions.... 

Richard

Re: newbie q

2005-09-10 by ch.³l

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "richardscott"
<richardscott@b...> wrote:
> Yo ho
> 
> Can anyone help me with this? I want to have patterns on
> tracks 1 and 2 and then use tracks 3-8 to randomise, disrupt
> and generally mess up these patterns live, preferably just
> by flipping on and off the tracks rather than having to dig
> into the menu too much onstage. I guess this what auxes are
> for but I'm still struggling with the sheer depth of this
> machine. There are complex things I want to achieve with it
> in the long run in but I'm using the P3 to control a nord
> micro and an Akai mpc1000 recording and performing ina few
> days (advert: Lancaster jazz festival next Thursday with
> Grutronic and Evan Parker) next week so I realise I have to
> come up with quick solutions.... 
> 
> Richard

hi Richard,
i think the first thing you need to do is set up those patterns you
want on tracks 7 & 8 instead of 1 & 2, and then use tracks 1 - 6 to
control them. this is because the P3 works through the tracks in
series, going from 1 to 8, so anything you'd want to manipulate by
using other tracks would have to go at the bottom of the chain. track
1 can't be manipulated by other tracks if i'm not mistaken (correct me
if i'm wrong Colin). Same goes for the auxes; aux A can't be
manipulated by any of the following auxes, so you'd need to set up the
parameter to be manipulated on a later aux and the manipulator on an
earlier aux.

grtz Chiel

Re: newbie q

2005-09-10 by jimcombsus

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Colin f" <colin@c...> wrote:
>  
> > i think the first thing you need to do is set up those patterns you
> > want on tracks 7 & 8 instead of 1 & 2, and then use tracks 1 - 6 to
> > control them. this is because the P3 works through the tracks in
> > series, going from 1 to 8, so anything you'd want to manipulate by
> > using other tracks would have to go at the bottom of the chain. track
> > 1 can't be manipulated by other tracks if i'm not mistaken (correct me
> > if i'm wrong Colin). Same goes for the auxes; aux A can't be
> > manipulated by any of the following auxes, so you'd need to set up the
> > parameter to be manipulated on a later aux and the manipulator on an
> > earlier aux.
> 
> That is certainly true of the auxes within a single track, and I
recommend
> if you're modifying one track to do it from an earlier track, since
they are
> processed in numerical order.
> You can affect an earlier track from a later one, although some
events might
> not do quite what you expect, and it's easier to keep track of
what's going
> on.
> 
> For tricks involving the unmuting of tracks which will then start
mangling
> other tracks, you should be looking at the 'push' and 'swap' events, and
> also the 'auxes to trk n'.


This is all great info for the user manual!

-Jim

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: newbie q

2005-09-10 by Colin f

> i think the first thing you need to do is set up those patterns you
> want on tracks 7 & 8 instead of 1 & 2, and then use tracks 1 - 6 to
> control them. this is because the P3 works through the tracks in
> series, going from 1 to 8, so anything you'd want to manipulate by
> using other tracks would have to go at the bottom of the chain. track
> 1 can't be manipulated by other tracks if i'm not mistaken (correct me
> if i'm wrong Colin). Same goes for the auxes; aux A can't be
> manipulated by any of the following auxes, so you'd need to set up the
> parameter to be manipulated on a later aux and the manipulator on an
> earlier aux.

That is certainly true of the auxes within a single track, and I recommend
if you're modifying one track to do it from an earlier track, since they are
processed in numerical order.
You can affect an earlier track from a later one, although some events might
not do quite what you expect, and it's easier to keep track of what's going
on.

For tricks involving the unmuting of tracks which will then start mangling
other tracks, you should be looking at the 'push' and 'swap' events, and
also the 'auxes to trk n'.
I'm being a single parent today, so no time to go into depth I'm afraid.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

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