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FTS Defeat

FTS Defeat

2006-04-09 by beakanddune

Hi,

Could anyone tell me how to defeat FTS on an individual pattern 
step ?   I've had a look in the manual and although I can find 
reference to being able to do this, I don't seem to be able to find 
out how its done.

Many thanks 

Simon

Re: [analogue-sequencer] FTS Defeat

2006-04-09 by Paul Nagle

beakanddune wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could anyone tell me how to defeat FTS on an individual pattern 
> step ?   I've had a look in the manual and although I can find 
> reference to being able to do this, I don't seem to be able to find 
> out how its done.
>   
You can defeat any kind of transposition - including FTS - using the 
"Xd" row (Transpose Defeat - beneath Gate, Tie, Skip). Set any step's Xd 
flag active and the note on that step will be sent out "as is".

Paul

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] FTS Defeat

2006-04-11 by bleep

On Sun, 9 Apr 2006, Paul Nagle wrote:

> You can defeat any kind of transposition - including FTS - using the
> "Xd" row (Transpose Defeat - beneath Gate, Tie, Skip). Set any step's Xd
> flag active and the note on that step will be sent out "as is".

This brings up a question I've been wondering about lately... is there a
way to defeat non-FTS transposition only?

- F.

RE: [analogue-sequencer] FTS Defeat

2006-04-12 by Colin f

> This brings up a question I've been wondering about lately... 
> is there a
> way to defeat non-FTS transposition only?

No. Is that something you would need often ?

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] FTS Defeat

2006-04-12 by Fred Beecher

On 4/12/06, Colin f <colin@colinfraser.com> wrote:
>
> > This brings up a question I've been wondering about lately...
> > is there a
> > way to defeat non-FTS transposition only?
>
> No. Is that something you would need often ?

Well, I'd use it a great deal, that's for sure. When I'm improvising,
I like to have FTS on to keep everything from sucking. : ) But I find
that when I add aux events that do transposition or use playlist
transposition, I like to defeat that transposition at certain steps to
add continutity.

If you can figure out a way to make it happen and other people would
find this useful, I'd love to have this capability in my P3. : )

Thanks,
Fred

RE: [analogue-sequencer] FTS Defeat

2006-04-12 by Colin f

> Well, I'd use it a great deal, that's for sure. When I'm improvising,
> I like to have FTS on to keep everything from sucking. : )

Maybe I should rename it FTNS - force to not suck. ;-)

> But I find
> that when I add aux events that do transposition or use playlist
> transposition, I like to defeat that transposition at certain steps to
> add continutity.
> 
> If you can figure out a way to make it happen and other people would
> find this useful, I'd love to have this capability in my P3. : )

It's not technically difficult to do per step. Just needs an extra 'defeat
playlist and part transpose' flag, and probably an event to set it.
Or I suppose a user config option that makes Xd only apply to PXPos and
playlist, and not FTS.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] FTS Defeat

2006-04-12 by Fred Beecher

On 4/12/06, Colin f <colin@colinfraser.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe I should rename it FTNS - force to not suck. ;-)

Hah hah!!! User-config option? : )

> It's not technically difficult to do per step. Just needs an extra 'defeat
> playlist and part transpose' flag, and probably an event to set it.
> Or I suppose a user config option that makes Xd only apply to PXPos and
> playlist, and not FTS.

Personally, I would prefer it as a user config option. That would be
the least confusing. What do the rest of you think? Or am I the only
one who has issues with sucking? : )

- Fred

Re: [analogue-sequencer] FTS Defeat

2006-04-12 by Nick Rothwell

On 12 Apr 2006, at 15:22, Fred Beecher wrote:

> But I find
> that when I add aux events that do transposition or use playlist
> transposition, I like to defeat that transposition at certain steps to
> add continutity.

Here's another scenario: I set up a playlist which plays a pattern at  
tonic, and then transposes to dominant. I still want FTS on the tonic  
(perhaps I'm recording into the pattern in arpeggio mode), but I want  
the dominant shift to be chromatic.

I think we're getting into a more general realm of where FTS should  
be applied in the chain of calculations which determine what note  
comes out on each step, so I doubt there's a sensible solution  
without a complete redesign.

	-- N.


   nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http:// 
www.cassiel.com

RE: [analogue-sequencer] FTS Defeat

2006-04-12 by Colin f

> Here's another scenario: I set up a playlist which plays a 
> pattern at  
> tonic, and then transposes to dominant. I still want FTS on 
> the tonic  
> (perhaps I'm recording into the pattern in arpeggio mode), 
> but I want  
> the dominant shift to be chromatic.
> 
> I think we're getting into a more general realm of where FTS should  
> be applied in the chain of calculations which determine what note  
> comes out on each step, so I doubt there's a sensible solution  
> without a complete redesign.

There is already the option to make PXPos pre or post FTS.
The playlist transpose values for each step have a couple of unused bits,
since the range is limited to 64 values.
Possibly one of those bits could be used to support pre/post FTS playlist
transpose too.
But not until I've had a rest from P3 coding for a while...

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

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