Analogue-sequencer

hi,

 >>>Writing a manual is a huge amount of work, and with no commercial  
value to
it, I just can't afford the time it would take.<<

yeah i wasn't really expecting that you would do it, colin...  
somebody on the list replied about this before, and it seemed like  
that person was saying that they were working on it, but maybe i  
misunderstood.

 >>>Only explanation I can think of for the weirdness you are seeing  
is spurious
data in uninitialised bars.<<

i don't understand what you are saying here...?


 >>>Did you do a power-on initialise after installing v4 ?<<

no, but i will try that.

 >>>Are you using the latest build ?<<<

you mean the latest OS? if so, i would say yes, because i only  
downloaded it from the site approx 2 weeks ago

thx

jason







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paul, anyone- is there a way to create/edit a bar that's not part of a
pattern, while the pattern plays, & then "reveal" it by changing the
length of the part? used to know how to do this in v3.....

so, e.g. I have a part playing with 2 bars, & I want to copy/paste the
first into bar 3 & tweak it a bit before adding it onto the end of the
other 2...... I'm probably missing something obvious...

duncan.

> duncan wrote:
> > paul, anyone- is there a way to create/edit a bar that's 
> not part of a
> > pattern, while the pattern plays, & then "reveal" it by changing the
> > length of the part? used to know how to do this in v3.....
> 
> I wish!! AFAIK you can't even set repeats and transposes in 
> advance of 
> the last bar, which is a bit frustrating sometimes.

You can add a new bar at the end of the pattern, then quickly set the bar
loop points so that it doesn't play.
Select the new bar, then edit it without it playing, before revealing it by
setting the loop points.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

duncan wrote:
> paul, anyone- is there a way to create/edit a bar that's not part of a
> pattern, while the pattern plays, & then "reveal" it by changing the
> length of the part? used to know how to do this in v3.....

I wish!! AFAIK you can't even set repeats and transposes in advance of 
the last bar, which is a bit frustrating sometimes.

> so, e.g. I have a part playing with 2 bars, & I want to copy/paste the
> first into bar 3 & tweak it a bit before adding it onto the end of the
> other 2...... I'm probably missing something obvious...

Afraid not. I think Colin did once plan to give v4 all the powers that 
playlists had and that's one of the things I miss too. Come on Scottish 
Bloke, what you up to? :)

-- 
Paul
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>>You can add a new bar at the end of the pattern, then quickly set
the bar loop points so that it doesn't play.<<

um.... I found those by accidenty today. don't know how to adjust
them. wasn't paying attention sir, sorry.... I thought bar loop points
were somewhere for the missus to hang her hand-bag in dodgy boozers....

I had an 8-bar pattern & only the last four bars were playing. 

I was like, "omg!wtf?" & couldn't make it stop doing it.

sorry. been reading too much internet. how do they work?

duncan.

(I wish I could take my m/moog on holiday with me)

--- On Mon, 8/12/08, duncan <ferrograph@aol.com> wrote:

> sorry. been reading too much internet. how do they work?

Hold Func and the begin then the end point of the loop. The loop thing is the single best feature of V4 methinks.

Enjoy

Paul

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>>Hold Func and the begin then the end point of the loop. The loop
thing is the single best feature of V4 methinks.<<

ta. I will have a play with it. is it a "play from the 1st bar & then
loop around in the looped section" sort of scenario? I can see how
that might be useful & then annoying sometimes. 

e.g. I might be editing bar 5 of 8 & not want to wait for it to come
around each time I stop the machine to... erm.... whatever.

but then the playlisty thing wasn't always perfection either. [sigh]
when's somebody going to build a sequencer that does exactly what
everyone wants it to, without it being seven miles deep? :-)

this weekend I was trying to remember how to drive the 8-armed beast,
without paying due attention to the recent massive rewrite that means
half the buttons have changed their function. sometimes an actual
display is just the ticket. (e.g. "edit" is now "preview" except when
it's "edit"... or is it the other way round?)


erm...

so is there a switch in the user config for whether or not the bars in
a pattern all change timebase at the same time? in fact, how many of
bar 1's attributes are inherited? I have been setting up the first bar
(auxes &c) before putting any notes into it, then C&P-ing into the
other locations.... do I not need to do this?

duncan.

duncan wrote:

> ta. I will have a play with it. is it a "play from the 1st bar & then
> loop around in the looped section" sort of scenario? I can see how
> that might be useful & then annoying sometimes. 

Useful for sure, you can always loop the whole thing like always or loop 
any range of bars. In performance you can restart the pattern playback 
too with the mode button, as before.

> e.g. I might be editing bar 5 of 8 & not want to wait for it to come
> around each time I stop the machine to... erm.... whatever.

When you reset the loop points, it automatically starts playback at the 
start of the loop. So you can go to any bar by setting it as a loop bar.

> but then the playlisty thing wasn't always perfection either. [sigh]
> when's somebody going to build a sequencer that does exactly what
> everyone wants it to, without it being seven miles deep? :-)

When indeed...

> this weekend I was trying to remember how to drive the 8-armed beast,
> without paying due attention to the recent massive rewrite that means
> half the buttons have changed their function. sometimes an actual
> display is just the ticket. (e.g. "edit" is now "preview" except when
> it's "edit"... or is it the other way round?)

That changing Edit button *is* a pain. I keep muting pages when I wanted 
to select them to play next etc. Displays are vital IMHO even basic ones 
that tell you scales, chords etc.

> so is there a switch in the user config for whether or not the bars in
> a pattern all change timebase at the same time? in fact, how many of
> bar 1's attributes are inherited? I have been setting up the first bar
> (auxes &c) before putting any notes into it, then C&P-ing into the
> other locations.... do I not need to do this?

auxes, tbase etc. are all inherited IIRC.

-- 
Paul
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