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2009-09-30 by Ditton33
...according to this ebay seller ;) http://tinyurl.com/y8kehy3 Never had my mitts on one of these, but if it is anything like the GenoQs I'll stick to the P3 thanks. :) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-09-30 by Softroom
Heh that's not the one you just fixed, by any chance, is it Colin? Ditton33 wrote: > ...according to this ebay seller ;) > > http://tinyurl.com/y8kehy3 > > Never had my mitts on one of these, but if it is anything like the GenoQs > I'll stick to the P3 thanks. :) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- Paul --- http://www.SmokyFrog.com http://www.JointIntelligenceCommittee.com
2009-09-30 by Stephen Humphries
Paul, IIRC you had one of the Notron sequencers. Was it good? --- On Wed, 30/9/09, Softroom <softroom@btinternet.com> wrote:
From: Softroom <softroom@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] "Notron blows P3 away"...
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 6:47 PM
Heh
that's not the one you just fixed, by any chance, is it Colin?
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2009-09-30 by Ditton33
Duncan had/has one. C'mon Dunc, spill the beans. ;)
> >-----Original Message----- > >From: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com > >[mailto:analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > >Stephen Humphries > >Sent: 30 September 2009 18:57 > >To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] "Notron blows P3 away"... > > > >Paul, > > > >IIRC you had one of the Notron sequencers. > > > >Was it good? > > > > > > > >--- On Wed, 30/9/09, Softroom <softroom@btinternet.com> wrote: > > > > > >From: Softroom <softroom@btinternet.com> > >Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] "Notron blows P3 away"... > >To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com > >Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 6:47 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Heh > > > >that's not the one you just fixed, by any chance, is it Colin? > > > >Ditton33 wrote: > >> ...according to this ebay seller ;) > >> > >> http://tinyurl. com/y8kehy3 > >> > >> Never had my mitts on one of these, but if it is anything like the > >> GenoQs I'll stick to the P3 thanks. :) > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >-- > >Paul > >--- > >http://www.SmokyFro g.com > >http://www.JointInt elligenceCommitt ee.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2009-09-30 by Stephen Humphries
I remember someone once said that they had the look of a toilet seat..... --- On Wed, 30/9/09, Ditton33 <ditton33@btinternet.com> wrote:
From: Ditton33 <ditton33@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] "Notron blows P3 away"...
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 7:03 PM
Duncan had/has one.
C'mon Dunc, spill the beans. ;)
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> >From: analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com
> >[mailto:analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> >Stephen Humphries
> >Sent: 30 September 2009 18:57
> >To: analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer ] "Notron blows P3 away"...
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> >From: Softroom <softroom@btinternet .com>
> >Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer ] "Notron blows P3 away"...
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2009-09-30 by Ditton33
Seems appropriate for an anal-log sequencer? :D ..ok I'll get me coat. :)
> >-----Original Message----- > >From: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com > >[mailto:analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > >Stephen Humphries > >Sent: 30 September 2009 19:06 > >To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] "Notron blows P3 away"... > > > > > >I remember someone once said that they had the look of a > >toilet seat..... > >--- On Wed, 30/9/09, Ditton33 <ditton33@btinternet.com> wrote: > > > > > >From: Ditton33 <ditton33@btinternet.com> > >Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] "Notron blows P3 away"... > >To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com > >Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 7:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Duncan had/has one. > > > >C'mon Dunc, spill the beans. ;) > > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com > >> >[mailto:analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf > >Of Stephen > >> >Humphries > >> >Sent: 30 September 2009 18:57 > >> >To: analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com > >> >Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer ] "Notron blows P3 away"... > >> > > >> >Paul, > >> > > >> >IIRC you had one of the Notron sequencers. > >> > > >> >Was it good? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >--- On Wed, 30/9/09, Softroom <softroom@btinternet .com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> >From: Softroom <softroom@btinternet .com> > >> >Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer ] "Notron blows P3 away"... > >> >To: analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com > >> >Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 6:47 PM > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >Heh > >> > > >> >that's not the one you just fixed, by any chance, is it Colin? > >> > > >> >Ditton33 wrote: > >> >> ...according to this ebay seller ;) > >> >> > >> >> http://tinyurl. com/y8kehy3 > >> >> > >> >> Never had my mitts on one of these, but if it is > >anything like the > >> >> GenoQs I'll stick to the P3 thanks. :) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------ > >> >> > >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Paul > >> >--- > >> >http://www.SmokyFro g.com > >> >http://www.JointInt elligenceCommitt ee.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >----------- --------- --------- ------- > >> > > >> >Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2009-09-30 by Stephen Humphries
I'm happy with my Schaltwerk which i have hooked up to 2 Creamware Minimax ASB's, Novation Supernova, and my Creamware Pro 12. --- On Wed, 30/9/09, Ditton33 <ditton33@btinternet.com> wrote:
From: Ditton33 <ditton33@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] "Notron blows P3 away"...
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 7:14 PM
Seems appropriate for an anal-log sequencer? :D
..ok I'll get me coat. :)
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com
> >[mailto:analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> >Stephen Humphries
> >Sent: 30 September 2009 19:06
> >To: analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com
> >Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer ] "Notron blows P3 away"...
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> >From: Ditton33 <ditton33@btinternet .com>
> >Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer ] "Notron blows P3 away"...
> >To: analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com
> >Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 7:03 PM
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> >> >From: analogue-sequencer@ yahoogroups. com
> >> >[mailto:analogue- sequencer@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf
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> >> >Humphries
> >> >Sent: 30 September 2009 18:57
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> >> >Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer ] "Notron blows P3 away"...
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> >> >> Never had my mitts on one of these, but if it is
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2009-09-30 by Softroom
Stephen Humphries wrote: > Paul, > > IIRC you had one of the Notron sequencers. > > Was it good? My review of it was copied into the eBay ad... -- Paul
2009-09-30 by Ryan Dean
I've been using this dspaudio.com <http://www.dspaudio.com/> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Softroom <softroom@btinternet.com> wrote: > > > Stephen Humphries wrote: > > Paul, > > > > IIRC you had one of the Notron sequencers. > > > > Was it good? > > My review of it was copied into the eBay ad... > > -- > Paul > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-09-30 by Colin f
> that's not the one you just fixed, by any chance, is it Colin? No, thanks to DHL, that one just arrived today after being 'next day' shipped sometime last week... The Notron does have some killer features. I realise I could be seen as biased, but... Having only spent a couple of hours using it over a few sessions, I still hadn't got beyond the point of needing to look up the manual for virtually every single function. You're on page 8 of the manual before it even tells you how to set the note value on a step. You would really have to spend serious, regular time on it to develop any degree of fluency. I can see how the return from the features it has could pay off that effort for some users. I think it's probably a straight love it/hate it type of machine. I'd want to be sure I loved it before I splashed out eBay prices for one... Things I already have, or will be stealing from the Notron for Cirklon include: The 'polyphonic' nature of patterns. You can set the length on a step so that the note lasts longer than one step. The note continues to sound for its full duration, even if there is another note on the next step. I'd been told about that before, but didn't appreciate it until I tried it. Cirklon does that already. The next cool feature is the realtime scaling for duration and velocity. You can, for example, set a pattern to play all steps with a much longer duration, just by turning a knob. With a polyphonic synth attached, the long notes all overlap into a sort of arpeggiated chord. That one is going in. And supersteps, which are essentially preset patterns of controllers that can be sent from the steps of other patterns. So, some pretty cool features, wrapped up in a rare and pricey box with a strong taste of Marmite. Best regards, Colin Fraser Sequentix Music Systems Ltd http://www.sequentix.com
2009-10-02 by duncan
>>Duncan had/has one. > > C'mon Dunc, spill the beans. ;)<< it'll be a cold day in the underworld when my mk1 notron is finally prised out of my possession. to be honest, I did sort of semi-abandon it for a few years (actually from about april 2003 until april 2008) when, after a lot of travelling & perhaps one gig too many, it started acting mysteriously. I was prompted to revive it by a resurgence of my mend-stuff instincts & the need to compare it with my octopus for another discussion such as this. so guess which won? answer c) both. but see elsewhere for my views on the octopus.... (briefly, then- it's slightly intimidating but enormous fun.) I have, as some of you may know, a number of other hardware sequencers with nicely tactile interfaces, & there are one or two I wish I'd never seen or bought. the schaltwerk springs to mind. but back to the bionic bog-seat. the case is it's weakest point, in both incarnations. the "award winning" plastic blob of the original is unquestionably distinctive, but offers no reasonable means of supporting the "instrument" (we'll come back to that in a moment) other than as one might an old-fashioned artist's pallette, or perhaps one of those proto-tablet-PC things from "star trek T.O.S." I needed to have the thing perched somehow so that I could fend off groupies & wrestle with bass/keyboards, & also so that it could be photographed (like the rest of our stuff) by people who regard live electronica as an extension of the arms race, & need to document every new blinkenlicht on show. I mean no disrespect. just sayin'. I tried a snare stand for a while (too horizontal, since you ask, & not actually all that secure), then adapted the rear face of the notron to take a tripod mount, which eventually tore a big hole in the casing after that one gig too many. this is still to be repaired. I think you were supposed to sit with it, sort of like a techno-autoharp, which is how I described it to bemused workmates the day it arrived at mtv in camden. later that summer I demo'd it at the expo in islington, to some kiddies who really wanted roland to hurry up & re-release the tb303. assholes. I had bought mine direct from spowage & co, minutes after reading mr nagle's review, so once again it's his fault. (he reviewed the p3 right into my face after a gig somewhere & bade me order it right away so I did. leicester, was it?) ahem. the biscuit tin mk2 was prone, I'm told, to electrocuting it's contents into non-func. tom m knows more. but you want to hear about what it's like to use, not the build quality. actually it's quite good, with one or two weak areas besides the case- the chromed-steel switch tops have gone a bit rusty here & there (they're NOT ball-bearings all the way through like the ones on the genoqs), & my mk1's mysterious behaviour was due to a stiff-wire multiway assembly 'twixt top & bottom PCBs, causing an entire row (note, not column) of switches to fail. on-stage, as it happens. in leicester. maybe the same night even. but you want to hear what it's like to use, not the still-unique & quite idiosyncratic feature-set which I'm afraid I have ignored rather a lot of. supersteps.... tom can tell you about those too. colin's right to mention that note-ons & note-offs are handled in such a way that you can easily trash your speakers, & they warn you about that in one of the cutesy little books, which will be worth millions one day, along with the BC8 & BC16.... but I digress, as lemmy would say. all I'm going to say is that I stand by my earlier remark- this thing is an instrument. in the way that the octopus isn't, because it's too big to fit in your lap. in the way that the nemo isn't because it's a daft shape. in the way that the p3 isn't because however cool & deep it is, you still know you're *programming* something. ymmv, of course. but for me, the notron is still as exciting to use as the day it was new, over 12 years ago. now, as to "blows the p3 away".... how, exactly? this is like saying that my 1974 rickenbacker 4001 (a bass guitar) is blown away by my 1973 m400 (a mellotron). fatuous. the sort of meaningless guff one sees on ebay where- frankly- sellers will say almost anything within the elastic bounds of legality in order to part the unwary from their hard-earned, & where- frankly- one would hope that transactions of an item of this sort would involve a higher calibre of both seller & buyer. as the recent near-victim of a phishing exercise (as I believe they're called) involving a pristine AKS offered very credibly on craigslist, I am sad to note the increasing incidence of more specialised baiting within online markets. caveat emptor. if you can't go & see it for yourself, & you don't know the seller, try to get a third-party involved. d.
2009-10-02 by ØØØ
That was a fun read. On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:48 PM, duncan <ferrograph@aol.com> wrote: > > > >>Duncan had/has one. > > > > C'mon Dunc, spill the beans. ;)<< > > it'll be a cold day in the underworld when my mk1 notron is finally prised > out of my possession. to be honest, I did sort of semi-abandon it for a few > years (actually from about april 2003 until april 2008) when, after a lot of > travelling & perhaps one gig too many, it started acting mysteriously. I was > prompted to revive it by a resurgence of my mend-stuff instincts & the need > to compare it with my octopus for another discussion such as this. > > so guess which won? answer c) both. but see elsewhere for my views on the > octopus.... > (briefly, then- it's slightly intimidating but enormous fun.) > > I have, as some of you may know, a number of other hardware sequencers with > nicely tactile interfaces, & there are one or two I wish I'd never seen or > bought. the schaltwerk springs to mind. > > but back to the bionic bog-seat. > > the case is it's weakest point, in both incarnations. > > the "award winning" plastic blob of the original is unquestionably > distinctive, but offers no reasonable means of supporting the "instrument" > (we'll come back to that in a moment) other than as one might an > old-fashioned artist's pallette, or perhaps one of those proto-tablet-PC > things from "star trek T.O.S." > > I needed to have the thing perched somehow so that I could fend off > groupies & wrestle with bass/keyboards, & also so that it could be > photographed (like the rest of our stuff) by people who regard live > electronica as an extension of the arms race, & need to document every new > blinkenlicht on show. I mean no disrespect. just sayin'. > > I tried a snare stand for a while (too horizontal, since you ask, & not > actually all that secure), then adapted the rear face of the notron to take > a tripod mount, which eventually tore a big hole in the casing after that > one gig too many. > this is still to be repaired. > I think you were supposed to sit with it, sort of like a techno-autoharp, > which is how I described it to bemused workmates the day it arrived at mtv > in camden. > later that summer I demo'd it at the expo in islington, to some kiddies who > really wanted roland to hurry up & re-release the tb303. assholes. > I had bought mine direct from spowage & co, minutes after reading mr > nagle's review, so once again it's his fault. > (he reviewed the p3 right into my face after a gig somewhere & bade me > order it right away so I did. leicester, was it?) > > ahem. > > the biscuit tin mk2 was prone, I'm told, to electrocuting it's contents > into non-func. tom m knows more. > > but you want to hear about what it's like to use, not the build quality. > actually it's quite good, with one or two weak areas besides the case- the > chromed-steel switch tops have gone a bit rusty here & there (they're NOT > ball-bearings all the way through like the ones on the genoqs), & my mk1's > mysterious behaviour was due to a stiff-wire multiway assembly 'twixt top & > bottom PCBs, causing an entire row (note, not column) of switches to fail. > on-stage, as it happens. > in leicester. maybe the same night even. > > but you want to hear what it's like to use, not the still-unique & quite > idiosyncratic feature-set which I'm afraid I have ignored rather a lot of. > supersteps.... tom can tell you about those too. > > colin's right to mention that note-ons & note-offs are handled in such a > way that you can easily trash your speakers, & they warn you about that in > one of the cutesy little books, which will be worth millions one day, along > with the BC8 & BC16.... but I digress, as lemmy would say. > > all I'm going to say is that I stand by my earlier remark- this thing is an > instrument. > in the way that the octopus isn't, because it's too big to fit in your lap. > > in the way that the nemo isn't because it's a daft shape. > in the way that the p3 isn't because however cool & deep it is, you still > know you're *programming* something. > > ymmv, of course. > but for me, the notron is still as exciting to use as the day it was new, > over 12 years ago. > > now, as to "blows the p3 away".... how, exactly? this is like saying that > my 1974 rickenbacker 4001 (a bass guitar) is blown away by my 1973 m400 (a > mellotron). > fatuous. > the sort of meaningless guff one sees on ebay where- frankly- sellers will > say almost anything within the elastic bounds of legality in order to part > the unwary from their hard-earned, & where- frankly- one would hope that > transactions of an item of this sort would involve a higher calibre of both > seller & buyer. as the recent near-victim of a phishing exercise (as I > believe they're called) involving a pristine AKS offered very credibly on > craigslist, I am sad to note the increasing incidence of more specialised > baiting within online markets. caveat emptor. if you can't go & see it for > yourself, & you don't know the seller, try to get a third-party involved. > > d. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-10-02 by Ditton33
> >-----Original Message----- > >From: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com > >[mailto:analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of duncan > >Sent: 02 October 2009 19:49 > >To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [analogue-sequencer] duncan responds to "Notron > >blows P3 away"... > > > >that it could be photographed (like the rest of our stuff) > >by people who regard live electronica as an extension of the > >arms race, & need to document every new blinkenlicht on > >show. I mean no disrespect. just sayin'. None taken. :D Yes, very entertaining post thanks. :) Not sure about your comment about "you're still programming something". With a mouse in hand I'd understand, but the P3 is a tactile knob twisting device which I've never really thought of as programming. Things I like most about the P3 are: It's skip functionality is just about as perfect as it gets. It never (accidental sync aside;) loses its rhythmic grip, unlike the GenoQs for example which I seemed to be able to trip up with uncanny regularity. The bionic bog seat looks entertaining but far too DIY/high maintenance for my liking. And anyway the Cirklon is gonna blow it away. :D
2009-10-03 by duncan
>>Not sure about your comment about "you're still programming something".<< the display, the functional depth, the having to remember what each knob or button is doing in the context of what the display says. there's a degree of this with the notron, granted, & with the octopus, & in both cases it's a pain if you're red/green colourblind as one of my bandmates is. but with these machines it's easier to deal with for me personally, kind of like playing a guitar in an odd tuning. with the p3, I still find that I'm making errors because I'm on the wrong damn page. but I still have two of them. I sort of want the LCD's backlight to go different colours for different pages/modes. is that too weird? I will grant the p3 this, though- there is no greater hardware sequencer in terms of scoring highly in ALL of the categories: bang-for-buck functionality, ease-of-use, build-quality, flexibility, ergonomics, reliability & overall coolness. & in case we disregard it as a selling point, there is this: frequent updates, good communication from the man himself, this helpful & friendly forum, & many features added to the p3 after we've individually requested or suggested them. only the octopus comes close in this last regard. it's just that I go through these assymetrical & awkward phases of wanting to *play* something that's an odd shape. normally I take this out on one of my many basses (last count was over two dozen) or guitars (a mere seven or eight) but sometimes it's the latronic. >>The bionic bog seat looks entertaining but far too DIY/high maintenance for my liking.<< I take it then that I'm not bidding against you for this latest? apologies if I am bidding against another list-member, but my outpouring of yesterday has awoken a curious & slightly superstitious need for a spare..... >>And anyway the Cirklon is gonna blow it away. :D<< & when I buy one or two of those, I'll be sure to opine... :-) d.
2009-10-08 by duncan
readers, I bought it. the stars were aligned- the seller is based in manchester & so I can pick it up during a visit to the rehearsal studios which was already scheduled. after a last-minute bidding frenzy, it went for £1k, which doesn't seem excessive to me. so now I've got two of them, one to partner each of my P3s. :-) d.