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2013-09-19 by sterling.keith@yahoo.com
2013-09-19 by WT
So what's your other machines then ? WT 19 sep 2013 kl. 18:42 skrev <sterling.keith@yahoo.com>:
> Hi all, I have always run my P3 standalone. Now I am driving it with MIDI clock, and it is slightly behind all the other machines which are also being driven by the same clock. Has anyone else noticed this? It seems to be about 20 milliseconds behind. > > > I think it has to be something in my configuration, because I don't think Colin would have let the P3 lag MIDI clock. Any ideas would be appreciated! > >
2013-09-19 by Keith Sterling
2013-09-19 by WT
What does the P3 sequence and how do you measure the offset 20ms? You wrote "it seems to be". WT 19 sep 2013 kl. 19:01 skrev Keith Sterling <sterling.keith@yahoo.com>:
> The clock also drives a Virus, Waldorf Xtk, Nord Lead 2, and Oberheim Cyclone. All of those are in perfect synch with the audio coming out of Logic, which is generating the midi clock via a Unitor8. > > From: WT <waveterm@telia.com> > > So what's your other machines then ? > >
2013-09-19 by Colin Fraser
> It seems to be about 20 milliseconds behind. 20 milliseconds would be 1 MIDI clock tick at 120bpm. Does the apparent delay vary with Logic's tempo ? I can't remember there being any MIDI clock bugs in P3, but it's possible there is a scenario in which the first tick is missed, which would put it behind. I recently saw an MFB Tanzbar, and it has a bug where the MIDI start is treated as a clock tick, which puts it 20ms ahead if you're running at 120bpm or so. I don't think all that other equipment could be doing that though. Which P3 OS version are you running ? Cheers, Colin
2013-09-19 by Keith Sterling
Thanks for the replies, guys. WT's comments caused me to take a more scientific approach to the problem, by recording all the synths into Logic and comparing note start times. To make a long story short, after decreasing Logic's buffer from 1024 to 64 it became clear that the P3 is rock solid with all the synths except the Waldorf Xtk, which plays early. I'll put the same question to the Waldorf forum. Off topic: WT, since I know that you are "a guy with a bunch of blue things", I thought you'd be interested that there was recently a Waldorf Wave sold on Ebay, where the seller embedded a video of the thing. The SOUND of the thing really floored me, absolutely gorgeous. Here's a link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=perMlN2yhyo He starts playing at 4 minutes. ________________________________
From: Colin Fraser <colin@sequentix.com> To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:29 AM Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] P3 MIDI Sync late? > It seems to be about 20 milliseconds behind. 20 milliseconds would be 1 MIDI clock tick at 120bpm. Does the apparent delay vary with Logic's tempo ? I can't remember there being any MIDI clock bugs in P3, but it's possible there is a scenario in which the first tick is missed, which would put it behind. I recently saw an MFB Tanzbar, and it has a bug where the MIDI start is treated as a clock tick, which puts it 20ms ahead if you're running at 120bpm or so. I don't think all that other equipment could be doing that though. Which P3 OS version are you running ? Cheers, Colin
2013-09-19 by WT
Absolutely stunning sounds ! I knew I shouldn´t have watched that......I want one. Damn.... WT
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Sterling
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 MIDI Sync late?
Thanks for the replies, guys. WT's comments caused me to take a more scientific approach to the problem, by recording all the synths into Logic and comparing note start times. To make a long story short, after decreasing Logic's buffer from 1024 to 64 it became clear that the P3 is rock solid with all the synths except the Waldorf Xtk, which plays early. I'll put the same question to the Waldorf forum.
Off topic: WT, since I know that you are "a guy with a bunch of blue things", I thought you'd be interested that there was recently a Waldorf Wave sold on Ebay, where the seller embedded a video of the thing. The SOUND of the thing really floored me, absolutely gorgeous. Here's a link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=perMlN2yhyo
He starts playing at 4 minutes.
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From: Colin Fraser <colin@sequentix.com>
To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] P3 MIDI Sync late?
> It seems to be about 20 milliseconds behind.
20 milliseconds would be 1 MIDI clock tick at 120bpm.
Does the apparent delay vary with Logic's tempo ?
I can't remember there being any MIDI clock bugs in P3, but it's possible
there is a scenario in which the first tick is missed, which would put it
behind.
I recently saw an MFB Tanzbar, and it has a bug where the MIDI start is
treated as a clock tick, which puts it 20ms ahead if you're running at
120bpm or so.
I don't think all that other equipment could be doing that though.
Which P3 OS version are you running ?
Cheers,
Colin